The big VLC for Mac OS X Intel and UB thread

macOS specific usage questions
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Postby eobet » 23 Jun 2006 16:01

Any ETA on:

* Proper aspect ratio resizing only (like Quicktime)
* Playing movies in the dock
* Enabling the screensaver when movie is NOT playing
* Double click to fullscreen
* Fade to black when it goes to fullscreen (like common OS X apps)

I mean, VLC works and that's all good, but it's nowhere near a polished OS X application yet.

MartinAyla

Green Line

Postby MartinAyla » 29 Jun 2006 21:34

Hi

I am also experiencing the green line in some movies now.

Is there any solution available soon?

Thanks
/Martin

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Postby djay » 04 Jul 2006 00:48

Any idea if a release will be able to read any DVD whatever its region ?

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Green Triangle

Postby Miss Shell » 06 Jul 2006 05:33

Hi Guys,

I think you have developed a great piece of software, fantastic work!

My problem is the dreaded Green Triangle artifacts when using .8.5 with .mov files, h.264 codec 1366x768 pixels. (I am using MacMini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo, 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM osx 10.4.6)

The problem has been thoroughly described above in other posts, I was hoping you could give an update (even to say you're not currently addressing the Intel Mac problem of this type~!) I am finding VLC is the ONLY player that can handle my high def content in a smooth manner (with a playlist), so I am desperate for the green line to be eradicated. I have tried iTunes, QT referenced movies, applescript, etc to no avail!

VLC programmers, you guys rock! Let us know if there is any progress :)

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby Guest » 08 Jul 2006 15:23

Hi Guys,

I think you have developed a great piece of software, fantastic work!

My problem is the dreaded Green Triangle artifacts when using .8.5 with .mov files, h.264 codec 1366x768 pixels. (I am using MacMini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo, 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM osx 10.4.6)

The problem has been thoroughly described above in other posts, I was hoping you could give an update (even to say you're not currently addressing the Intel Mac problem of this type~!) I am finding VLC is the ONLY player that can handle my high def content in a smooth manner (with a playlist), so I am desperate for the green line to be eradicated. I have tried iTunes, QT referenced movies, applescript, etc to no avail!

VLC programmers, you guys rock! Let us know if there is any progress :)
I think the problem is that this mainly affects Intel users and since none of the developers are on Intel, we're not going to see a solution for green triangles anytime soon. 0.8.5 was released with this problem known so as far as I can tell, this is being treated it as a back burner issue.

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Re: MacBook Pro and Dreambox 7020

Postby Guest » 10 Jul 2006 15:02

Hello and congrats for your nice application!

my feedback

1) how to get rid of the VLC Controler when I launch VLC ? (as it is possible to control the movie in the control panel under embedded in the same window as the movie why do we need to get this controler appart ? (a disable button in the pref would be nice)

2) I have a dreambox (sat receiver) and can now watch the stream on my macbook ;) ... unfortunately there are 2 things that dont work

a) when I change the channel it crash the VLC stream and I have to re-launch it again (and get another new video-1.m3u file on my desktop)

b) each time I launch a channel it creates a video.m3u file on my desktop

c) there is a WEB-X-TV option in the dreambox to control and watch different channels and this is not working as it asks for a VLC plugin to run

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby Guest » 10 Jul 2006 19:13

Hi Guys,

I think you have developed a great piece of software, fantastic work!

My problem is the dreaded Green Triangle artifacts when using .8.5 with .mov files, h.264 codec 1366x768 pixels. (I am using MacMini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo, 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM osx 10.4.6)

The problem has been thoroughly described above in other posts, I was hoping you could give an update (even to say you're not currently addressing the Intel Mac problem of this type~!) I am finding VLC is the ONLY player that can handle my high def content in a smooth manner (with a playlist), so I am desperate for the green line to be eradicated. I have tried iTunes, QT referenced movies, applescript, etc to no avail!

VLC programmers, you guys rock! Let us know if there is any progress :)

Have you tried to play 1080i HD with your MiniMac? i can play every 1080i HD movie clips in Quicktime, but in VLC i got framedrops and nothing over 720p will work. I ask because i got alot of clips in 1080i in .ts fileformat and can´t play this in Quicktime. Is there anyway to tweak VLC so it will work? or isn´t VLC good enough for HD 1080i playback.

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ub crashes!

Postby exitwound » 11 Jul 2006 06:34

In a lot of recent builds, on both a Mini 2GHz Duo and an iMac 20inch/2GHz Duo, I get failure to launch...that is a silent "crash" on launch, no Crash Reporter, just stops bouncing in the dock and never properly loads. Is this a known issue? I've had it with many builds and it often seems I have to delete my prefs and start over to stop the problem (plus find a new or older build that doesn't have the issue)....

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Re: MacBook Pro and Dreambox 7020

Postby Guest » 15 Jul 2006 23:49

Hello and congrats for your nice application!

my feedback

1) how to get rid of the VLC Controler when I launch VLC ? (as it is possible to control the movie in the control panel under embedded in the same window as the movie why do we need to get this controler appart ? (a disable button in the pref would be nice)

2) I have a dreambox (sat receiver) and can now watch the stream on my macbook ;) ... unfortunately there are 2 things that dont work

a) when I change the channel it crash the VLC stream and I have to re-launch it again (and get another new video-1.m3u file on my desktop)

b) each time I launch a channel it creates a video.m3u file on my desktop

c) there is a WEB-X-TV option in the dreambox to control and watch different channels and this is not working as it asks for a VLC plugin to run

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby ZeroMinuS » 16 Jul 2006 14:24

Hi Guys,

I think you have developed a great piece of software, fantastic work!

My problem is the dreaded Green Triangle artifacts when using .8.5 with .mov files, h.264 codec 1366x768 pixels. (I am using MacMini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo, 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM osx 10.4.6)

The problem has been thoroughly described above in other posts, I was hoping you could give an update (even to say you're not currently addressing the Intel Mac problem of this type~!) I am finding VLC is the ONLY player that can handle my high def content in a smooth manner (with a playlist), so I am desperate for the green line to be eradicated. I have tried iTunes, QT referenced movies, applescript, etc to no avail!

VLC programmers, you guys rock! Let us know if there is any progress :)
I am having a similar issue. There are green zig zags starting from the top right corner that end at the bottom right corner. It seems to be the Intel compatible 0.8.5 (running on MacBook Pro) that is doing this with my mp4 (h.264) files. Every other format I have tried has been flawless. I tried the same files on my PowerPC using both 0.8.5 and 0.8.4 with no problems. I hope this can be resolved soon. Thank you for your time.

~Loyal VLC user!

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby Guest » 19 Jul 2006 20:56

I am having a similar issue. There are green zig zags starting from the top right corner that end at the bottom right corner. It seems to be the Intel compatible 0.8.5 (running on MacBook Pro) that is doing this with my mp4 (h.264) files. Every other format I have tried has been flawless.
As far as I can tell the green line problem doesn't seem to be related to the codec used or container format, since we all encountered this issue with different file formats etc.

I checked the messages window but none of my video files that have the green line problem show any kind of error in the log. Whatever it is VLC doesn't seem notice that there are display errors going on. Also, the green line is not always from lower left corner to upper right corner, sometimes is is slightly off depending on the source video.

I think it might somehow be related to the aspect ratio of the source video but that's just a hunch.

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby ZeroMinuS » 20 Jul 2006 14:31

As far as I can tell the green line problem doesn't seem to be related to the codec used or container format, since we all encountered this issue with different file formats etc.

I checked the messages window but none of my video files that have the green line problem show any kind of error in the log. Whatever it is VLC doesn't seem notice that there are display errors going on. Also, the green line is not always from lower left corner to upper right corner, sometimes is is slightly off depending on the source video.

I think it might somehow be related to the aspect ratio of the source video but that's just a hunch.
I agree with you. I have been trying different h.264 files and only about 1/3 of them have this problem. A I havent had any problems with AVIs, MKV, XVID, or OGMs. I am interested to know what other file formats people are having trouble with.

*Edit: Just got the problem on an AVI...

Is there going to be any feedback from Videolan? A simple we cant fix it or we are working on it would be nice please.
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Postby Guest » 20 Jul 2006 16:09

Well I've seen green lines for both ogm and avi... so I'm pretty confident it isn't codec/container related. Only quirk I can ascertain from the faulty files are that they don't have a resolution that's a multiple of 4.

Ps No offense meant by this but it would be nice to just get 1 official comment somewhere regarding this issue, even if it's just "we're aware of it but don't know what's up" comment.

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Re: Green Triangle

Postby RLD » 22 Jul 2006 05:20

As far as I can tell the green line problem doesn't seem to be related to the codec used or container format, since we all encountered this issue with different file formats etc.

I checked the messages window but none of my video files that have the green line problem show any kind of error in the log. Whatever it is VLC doesn't seem notice that there are display errors going on. Also, the green line is not always from lower left corner to upper right corner, sometimes is is slightly off depending on the source video.

I think it might somehow be related to the aspect ratio of the source video but that's just a hunch.
I agree with you. I have been trying different h.264 files and only about 1/3 of them have this problem. A I havent had any problems with AVIs, MKV, XVID, or OGMs. I am interested to know what other file formats people are having trouble with.

*Edit: Just got the problem on an AVI...

Is there going to be any feedback from Videolan? A simple we cant fix it or we are working on it would be nice please.

I've only ran accross a few AVI that exibit the green triangle problem. I have a Formac TVR recorder (.DV files) that everything I record has the green triangle. Doesn't matter if its the Formac software or Vidi software I get the same DV files. The DV files play fine in Niceplayer and quickime as do the few AVI file I seen the issue with.
I've tried various player (mplayer, xine, divx, quicktime) and they won't play the affected AVI files either.


With the latest intel nightlies it appears BIN/CUE file won't play.

Interesting development. . . . I switched back to VLC .85 because of the BIN/CUE issue with the latest intel nightly. I opened one of my DV files and it played prefectly (DVs wouldn't do this previously) in VLC. The only thing different that I have done is changing the audio format of the recordings in Vidi to reduce file size. Instead of the default 32bit integer 48khz stereo sound recoring I'm now using MACE 6:1 mono @ 8bits and 44khz sound recording.


Might be worth it for the knowledgeable to look into the sound codecs for the green triangle issue. Unfortunately I have not gone through the last 15 pgs of posts to see if anyone has seen anything similar.


RLD

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Postby Guest » 23 Jul 2006 17:13

Well I've seen green lines for both ogm and avi... so I'm pretty confident it isn't codec/container related. Only quirk I can ascertain from the faulty files are that they don't have a resolution that's a multiple of 4.

Ps No offense meant by this but it would be nice to just get 1 official comment somewhere regarding this issue, even if it's just "we're aware of it but don't know what's up" comment.
The issue has been around since the Intel beta builds of 0.8.5 and IIRC, the response back then was that it's a minor issue that seems to only show up on Intel machines under certain conditions. None of the developers have an Intel, so it's been on the back burner since then.

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MacIntel VLC H264 Encoder

Postby geo » 30 Jul 2006 08:53

It's great that the development Intel Mac version of VLC is flowing again.

http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/mac ... l/?C=M;O=D

I used this version:
trunk-intel-20060730-0059.dmg 30-Jul-2006 00:52 21M

This version can't find H.264 for encoding/transcoding, whereas the latest SVN version on PPC does it just fine.

ffmpeg: cannot find encoder h264
stream_out_transcode: cannot find encoder ((null))
stream_out_transcode: cannot create video chain
main: cannot create packetizer output (mpgv)



thanks & happy times,


George

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Re: MacIntel VLC H264 Encoder

Postby Guest » 30 Jul 2006 22:45

It's great that the development Intel Mac version of VLC is flowing again.

http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/mac ... l/?C=M;O=D

I used this version:
trunk-intel-20060730-0059.dmg 30-Jul-2006 00:52 21M

This version can't find H.264 for encoding/transcoding, whereas the latest SVN version on PPC does it just fine.


George
This might be a ridiculous question, but how do i obtain this version in with the H.264 encoder doesn't have problems?

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Re: MacIntel VLC H264 Encoder

Postby krmathis » 30 Jul 2006 22:52

This might be a ridiculous question, but how do i obtain this version in with the H.264 encoder doesn't have problems?
They are called 'Trunk' builds for a reason, you know! ;)
Because they are the current development version, which sometime works great. Other times just slightly, or maybe not at all.
I suggest you pick an older build, then wait for a hopefully better build tomorrow.

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Postby Guest » 31 Jul 2006 01:50

ha...alright..thanks

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Postby Guest » 31 Jul 2006 04:52

hey...really basic question here.... is there a quality difference between .avi and .mp4 files? Also how high should the bitrate be set?

Thanks

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Postby krmathis » 31 Jul 2006 08:44

hey...really basic question here.... is there a quality difference between .avi and .mp4 files? Also how high should the bitrate be set?
No, the container format don't affect quality at all.
Regarding bitrate. That depends on which codec you use, and not least the video resolution. Anything between 1000 and 4000Kbps I would say...

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Postby The DJ » 31 Jul 2006 21:11

However avi is very much less suited, because it doesn't provide native support for B-frames. The higher your B-frame ratio, the less .avi will work for you.

(H264 basically provides endless B-frame ratio in theory. this makes it very hard to do the "reordering" of the frames required with avi. basically because you have no clue how far to look within the file. You should use .mov/mp4, MPEG-TS or matroska.
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splitting?

Postby alexplank » 02 Aug 2006 05:00

Is it just me or do I see splitting in avi videos? You know, when half of the screen renders faster than another half so you can clearly see a "line" where the two halves are different.

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Postby The DJ » 02 Aug 2006 12:55

that's called interlacing. It's common with material from TV sources. Use the deinterlacer in the Video menu.
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Postby alexplank » 02 Aug 2006 20:50

that's called interlacing. It's common with material from TV sources. Use the deinterlacer in the Video menu.
I don't think its interlacing since I know what interlacing looks like.

Actually, I'm no longer experiencing the problem in the latest nightly.


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