Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Feature requests for VLC.
Ocsid
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 18
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 16:49

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Ocsid » 27 Jul 2018 01:00

OK, thank you.
I take it that, thank you, was for my response to your question for me as well?
Got a feeling you mixed up the conversations and missed my response to you.
Se the answer above to your query about: "for the playlist? For the library [...]"

kryxan
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 3
Joined: 22 Sep 2018 10:32

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby kryxan » 23 Sep 2018 09:45

I thought for sure this was some new bug, but finding this post I realize this bug has been present in VLC for a very long time.

really hope this bug gets fixed!!!! please devs, if you're listening! fix this bug!!!

As I stated in my post linked below, I know this is not working as intended, because if the devs intended it to read metadata for the filename then it would be reading the metadata stored in the .nfo file stored alongside the video.

https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=146428

Ocsid
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 18
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 16:49

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Ocsid » 15 Oct 2018 01:03

Any news on the matter?

1010011010
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 8
Joined: 21 Sep 2018 12:08

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby 1010011010 » 24 Oct 2018 08:42

I also think this is a sensible thing to do, file names are usually accurate and are extremely easy to change where as metatags are sometimes just random crap as the numerous examples show it's also way harder to fix (as far as I know it requires loading it in mkvtools or similar and manually removing the tags from each individual file) and since it already uses the filename itself if no tags exists it makes me think it should be easy as to change it to filenames only.

Jean-Baptiste Kempf you said "What is the reasoning for that request?" but I am genuinely curious why vlc uses these metatags instead of using file names? Is there any reasoning for that decision?

Rémi Denis-Courmont
Developer
Developer
Posts: 15266
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 16:01
VLC version: master
Operating System: Linux
Contact:

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 24 Oct 2018 21:31

Is that a rhetorical question? Meta tags are explicitly, well, meta informations related to the content of the file, whereas filenames are not. So it makes sense to use the earlier.

I would rather ask, why in bloody hell would somebody file incorrect meta tags? If you have no meta-data to fill, just don't add meta tags.
Rémi Denis-Courmont
https://www.remlab.net/
Private messages soliciting support will be systematically discarded

Lornadoo
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 52
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 21:27
VLC version: 3.0.11.1
Operating System: Mac OS 10.14.6

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Lornadoo » 07 Nov 2018 17:36

Rémi, take for instance a blu-ray rip of a TV series made from MakeMKV, transcoded to mp4 with Handbrake. The resulting output file(s) will contain the metadata from the original blu-ray disc. Regardless of what the files are named, VLC will only display the metadata in the playlist. This metadata is useless to help the user to identify which file they are trying to play because the metadata titles are identical. Do you understand the frustration, and why we want the VLC playlist to display the filenames instead of the meta tags?

Rémi Denis-Courmont
Developer
Developer
Posts: 15266
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 16:01
VLC version: master
Operating System: Linux
Contact:

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 07 Nov 2018 17:41

In other words, the meta-data are incorrect. The VLC UX is not optimized for invalid inputs for obvious reasons.
Rémi Denis-Courmont
https://www.remlab.net/
Private messages soliciting support will be systematically discarded

Lornadoo
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 52
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 21:27
VLC version: 3.0.11.1
Operating System: Mac OS 10.14.6

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Lornadoo » 07 Nov 2018 19:08

Well, Rémi, sources such as DVD do not contain the stubborn meta data that blu-ray discs contain, therefore mp4 transcodes of DVD titles only show up in the VLC playlist with the file name given to those titles. Therefore, it can be said that VLC is able to display file names in the abscence of meta tag data. Why can't there be an option in VLC to only display file names in the playlist? Why is it mandatory for you to only accept that if meta data exists that it must be displayed in the playlist instead of the filename? Please explain why this is.

DieDaily77
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 1
Joined: 08 Nov 2018 09:44

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby DieDaily77 » 08 Nov 2018 09:53

Yes! Nothing more annoying than bad metadata obfuscating your titles in the playlist. 'Save Metadata' does nothing to persistently change the title (hey, no offense VLC, neither do the Windows 10 properties dialogs...the whole metadata-handling paradigm at present is a hot mess). But just as the OP says: wouldn't it be great if by default the filenames were the playlist titles??? Yes! Or, even, if there were an option to make this happen? Also: NO, guys and gals, using the column heading that gives you the complete file path is obviously NOT a good option...my monitor has a nice, wide display width and it is STILL not at all practicable.

Ocsid
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 18
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 16:49

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Ocsid » 22 Nov 2018 00:18

If all roads were nicely maintained, no shock absorbing measures would be needed in cars.
If you've left CapsLock active when typing a password, your computer informs you of a possible misstake.

Wouldnt it be awesome to be able to say: "VLC, still working great even when handling the work of idiots"

Giving the users the OPTION to correct something disturbing would be a step towards ease of use.

I am wondering, how is it coming along? Any progress of implementing the aftersought option?

Enthusiast01
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 9
Joined: 15 Oct 2018 05:11

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Enthusiast01 » 16 Dec 2018 10:55

Yes, please implement this option. For a stop gap solution, I fixed the issue myself by scrubbing all my .mkv & .mp4 files with the following programs: MKV Optimizer 2 & Mp3tag. No metadata titles & VLC will use the file name. I personally do not use Plex or similar software & I abhor the naming schemes they force on you anyway.

s.Ahmad
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 1
Joined: 30 Dec 2018 08:52

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby s.Ahmad » 30 Dec 2018 09:40

This Is already been done just untick in Tools/Preferences/All/ Playlist untick automatically preparse files save exit restart vlc and all titles will now be the filenames as found in folder hope this helps
Thanx "JarodKyle01" :P :lol:
Thank you, very very much.

OldGeezer
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 21
Joined: 12 Nov 2016 08:59

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby OldGeezer » 01 Jan 2019 15:27

Four pages of people wanting the same as me since the thread began in June 2014.. How hard could it be to give an option to ignore the metadata? I've seen entire seasons where the file names were correct but every episode has the same metadata for episode 01. Even when there is no metadata, VLC will shorten it to the just the series name & episode number such as S03E16. File names often have the episode name, audio & other info. There is an option not to preparse & the filenames show in the playlist until the episode is played. Why not just give an option NOT to parse at all? There is an option to show the filename at the top of the window. How hard could it be to do the same for the playlist? I am doubting they are going to ever fix this if we had 20 pages of people wanting it. Don't get me wrong, VLC is still the best media player. I ditched Windows when I refused to install that spyware version 10. They sent out an "update" to brick security updates because I have a 7th generation processor. Last time I tried their sorry media player it wouldn't even play an MKV file. VLC has fixed other annoying bugs like that horrible default dark red screen it kept reverting to even if there was a 2 pixel size difference between files & you had to keep stopping to recheck to adjust the video. HEVC files had just begun to show up when they updated to play them. So credit to them for many good things. Why are they ignoring this very easy request so many people want?

Enthusiast01
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 9
Joined: 15 Oct 2018 05:11

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Enthusiast01 » 07 Jan 2019 02:19

This Is already been done just untick in Tools/Preferences/All/ Playlist untick automatically preparse files save exit restart vlc and all titles will now be the filenames as found in folder hope this helps
Thanx "JarodKyle01" :P :lol:
Thank you, very very much.
I had to Google how to fix this & this was the fix. If the tooltips actually had a description most people could understand, it would save a lo of these questions.

I solved mine also by brute force. I wiped the metadata filename from all my videos with either MKV Optimizer 2 (for /mkv files) and MP3tag (for .mp4 files). I have never liked how the metadata is done in almost any media file.

Ocsid
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 18
Joined: 11 Jun 2014 16:49

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Ocsid » 03 Feb 2019 22:14

If all roads were nicely maintained, no shock absorbing measures would be needed in cars.
If you've left CapsLock active when typing a password, your computer informs you of a possible misstake.

Wouldnt it be awesome to be able to say: "VLC, still working great even when handling the work of idiots"

Giving the users the OPTION to correct something disturbing would be a step towards ease of use.

I am wondering, how is it coming along? Any progress of implementing the aftersought option?
Still wondering. =)

maslopigwa
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 1
Joined: 12 Mar 2019 13:25

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby maslopigwa » 12 Mar 2019 13:38

At least here is a following option that could help somebody, but it is not the solution, too.
Tools > Preferences > Show settings = All > Playlist: [ ] Automatically preparse files
Great! It works! For my needs of showing just 'normal' file names on playlist. Thank you so much for the solution! I registered on this forum just only to thank you :D

missjmelville
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 1
Joined: 17 Mar 2019 03:47

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby missjmelville » 17 Mar 2019 03:52

At least here is a following option that could help somebody, but it is not the solution, too.
Tools > Preferences > Show settings = All > Playlist: [ ] Automatically preparse files
Great! It works! For my needs of showing just 'normal' file names on playlist. Thank you so much for the solution! I registered on this forum just only to thank you :D
I cannot believe how long this has been an issue. I have been looking everywhere for a solution and this just does not cut it. All this option does is display the correct file name UNTIL you play it, then it changes it back to the metadata tags name. This is honestly ridiculous that it is an issue going back, at least, five years if not more. All my searching only ever brings me back here to this thread or to articles telling me to download a third party software to change metadata tags. No one has time for that. It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that this has been going on so long, with no fix when by all accounts, it should be simple to include an option to check/uncheck whether to use metadata tags for file names or not.

I made this account specifically to comment on this problem as maybe if more voices ask for this to be fixed, maybe, maybe something will be done. But I won't hold my breath.

unidan
Developer
Developer
Posts: 1493
Joined: 25 Mar 2018 01:00

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby unidan » 18 Mar 2019 17:07

I cannot believe how long this has been an issue. I have been looking everywhere for a solution and this just does not cut it. All this option does is display the correct file name UNTIL you play it, then it changes it back to the metadata tags name. This is honestly ridiculous that it is an issue going back, at least, five years if not more. All my searching only ever brings me back here to this thread or to articles telling me to download a third party software to change metadata tags. No one has time for that. It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that this has been going on so long, with no fix when by all accounts, it should be simple to include an option to check/uncheck whether to use metadata tags for file names or not.
It happens in free software, where people don't have a lot of time and prefer spending it in issues that are not workarounding bad input files. ;)
UX issues like this should be improved, but they are difficult to tackle because you need a bigger picture than a specific use case.

mederi
Big Cone-huna
Big Cone-huna
Posts: 1951
Joined: 15 Mar 2011 16:38
VLC version: 2.0.8
Operating System: Windows Vista/XP

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby mederi » 26 Mar 2019 15:22

It is possible to customize playlist table (Qt GUI on Windows): mouse-right-click the header of playlist table and select "Filename" in context menu. Perhaps this missing column/field could be implemented in VLC 3 for XP/Vista users.

Ren_Flow
New Cone
New Cone
Posts: 1
Joined: 20 Jun 2019 18:40

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby Ren_Flow » 20 Jun 2019 18:43

How is this STILL an issue??? The only workaround I've found is to go to the trouble and scrubbing all the tag data from video files. A pain, but the least amount of pain necessary in order to get what I want.

eltodesukane
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 34
Joined: 12 May 2015 21:45

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby eltodesukane » 18 Oct 2019 16:47

Still no solutions. VLC displays wrong annoying metadata when playing, instead of the filename which would be correct and useful.
Can't VLC do something about it?

eltodesukane
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 34
Joined: 12 May 2015 21:45

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby eltodesukane » 18 Oct 2019 16:48

VLC, please just give the option to display the filename, is this so hard to do?

eltodesukane
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 34
Joined: 12 May 2015 21:45

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby eltodesukane » 18 Oct 2019 16:52

I wish to request a feature for upcoming versions of vlc.
I wish to be able to turn off the metadata being displayed in the playlist. Resulting in the filename being shown instead.
How hard can it be to give the option to display the filename instead of wrong/missing/useless metadata?
Please give us the option to display the filename.
Anyone listening???

SpectateSwamp
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 19
Joined: 31 Aug 2010 15:00

Long FileNames are the best for all kinds of details Yup

Postby SpectateSwamp » 31 Oct 2019 22:25

To ignore this incredible feature is shortsighted.

My app determines the video thumbnail from the FN
ie start point, duration, speed, repeat, freeze and more.

Every player should easily be able to implement this WOW feature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZfY6lxBaQ

videobruce
Blank Cone
Blank Cone
Posts: 29
Joined: 26 Nov 2010 18:02
VLC version: v3.0.6 Portable
Operating System: Win7 (unfortunately)
Location: New York State

Re: Option to display FILE NAMES instead of META TAGS

Postby videobruce » 01 Nov 2019 11:49

I use LA Player, I don't have this problem that whomever owns/runs VLC doesn't seem to give a --please stay polite-- about!
100 posts in over two years and nothing changed with these people? :roll:


Return to “VLC media player Feature Requests”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests