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VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby maxih00 » 20 Feb 2010 01:47

I wonder if there is a version of VLC for Windows 7 64-bit.

Excuse my English but not speak it frequently.

Thank you very much

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 20 Feb 2010 17:27

There isn't 64 bit VLC for Windows. 32 bit version will work fine.

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby 64BitNow » 01 Mar 2010 02:35

"32 bit version will work fine."
If only that were true. People have been asking for 64-bit here for years!

Someone's going to make a 64 bit players for the tens of millions of us (and more every day) that are running 64 bit Windows, and when they do, whether it's VLC PLayer or something else, I'll be using it. And I won't be revisiting my decision for a decade or so. Knowing how little is involved - and how many more Win64 users there are than Mac or Linux users, it's astounding that you haven't at least posted a 64-bit beta. I guess you're too distracted making one for all three BEOS users.

Adobe is finally acknowledging that they screwed up by not taking a 64-bit Flash player more seriously, earlier. Even the notoriously years-behind-the-times folks at Mozilla have a 64 bit Firefox!

We're in 2010. It's a 64-bit world now. Join us...

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby dumbo4711 » 01 Mar 2010 05:00

why u want a 64 bit version ?

videos and music won't play better with it
and i doubt that u will feel or see a speed increase with it


from mpc hc u can get a 64 bit version
but its not recommended
compatibility is much better with 32 bit codecs


btw u can download the vlc source code and compile it yourself....
http://www.videolan.org/developers/vlc.html

to make a 64 bit version u need to change "a bit"
just compile it won't work i guess :)

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 01 Mar 2010 08:51

Knowing how little is involved - and how many more Win64 users there are than Mac or Linux users, it's astounding that you haven't at least posted a 64-bit beta. I guess you're too distracted making one for all three BEOS users.
It is not "little" involved. Porting VLC to Win64 has taken a lot of time to do so.

Anyway, a 64bit version shouldn't be too far from us after VLC 1.1.0 is out.
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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby Windows7Guy » 19 Mar 2010 21:31

Hello maxih00,

It is always best to check with the software manufacturer FIRST. They will tell you if they have tested the product and the version, as well as whether or not it will work with Windows 7.

Check out the Windows 7 Compatibility site: (There you will find out about hardware and software compatibility.)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compat ... fault.aspx
There is a pulldown from which you can choose "hardware" and "software".

There are also some great articles, instructional videos and such to help with your Windows 7 at our Springboard site:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/default.aspx

In any event a lot of the times, Vista drivers will work in lieu of Windows 7 drivers, however, it's not 100%!

As stated previously, it's best to have the Windows 7 certified drivers installed.

Thanks again,
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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby nutpantz » 30 Mar 2010 18:14

i would love to see a 64-bit VLC windows version also.
there is no point paying for a 64 bit operating system just run run 32 software on it.
thats about as smart as paying for a 64 bit processor and living with a 32 bit operating system.
much like buying a sports car but limiting the engine to half its capability.

win 64 is less supported in native 64 than any linux 64.
thank goodness i have both now.

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 31 Mar 2010 17:41

there is no point paying for a 64 bit operating system just run run 32 software on it.
Yes there is. You can use over 4GB memory more easier. And you also get some safety features.

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby nutpantz » 02 Apr 2010 03:45

there is no point paying for a 64 bit operating system just run run 32 software on it.
Yes there is. You can use over 4GB memory more easier. And you also get some safety features.
im sure there is something i am missing
but if a 32- bit operating system is unable to access more than 4 gb of memory (m or whatever the exact limit is)
how can a 32-bit program do what an operating system cannot.
i was under the impression that the ram limit was not a limit of the people did the code
(ie that M$ did not just arbitrarily limit 32 bit windows for ram access)
are you saying that you could create a 32 bit program or a 32 bit operating system that can bypass this limit?
what other 32-bit limits can be worked around?

and would it just not be better to have the application in 64-bit to match the 64-bit operating system and the 64-bit processer and all the other hardware?

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 02 Apr 2010 15:57

The 32 bit programs still have the limit, but since 64 bit OS supports more memory (well at least easier), one can give more apps more memory.
Example
32 bit OS with 4 gigs of memory, you can give 1 gigabyte to four apps and after that they have to swap.
64 bit OS with 8 gigs of memory, you can give 2 gigabytes to four apps, so no need for swapping so easily.
(both examples are non-academic ones, so don't use them in your Operating Systems course)

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby daf » 09 Jul 2010 14:44

The 32 bit programs still have the limit, but since 64 bit OS supports more memory (well at least easier), one can give more apps more memory.
Example
32 bit OS with 4 gigs of memory, you can give 1 gigabyte to four apps and after that they have to swap.
64 bit OS with 8 gigs of memory, you can give 2 gigabytes to four apps, so no need for swapping so easily.
(both examples are non-academic ones, so don't use them in your Operating Systems course)
they certainly are non-academic examples.

32 bit OS are neither capable of assigning 4 gig of RAM - ignoring the fact that the OS itself takes up RAM making it a mathematical impossibility, it runs out of address space at around the 3.5 gig mark.
and once you factor in the forced allocation of page file address space rather than RAM once 2 gig or so is in use, it's a wonder why anyone except hardcore gamers ever fitted a 32bit machine with more than 2 gigs... that said, audiophiles spend 1000's on digital leads & homeopathic remedies are still allowed to be sold as medicines

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 09 Jul 2010 15:52

32 bit OS can use 4 gigs of RAM and more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby IgaRonin » 29 Jul 2010 11:24

your link is well and good for hardware and the minority OS users out there (tho OS X is gaining popularity) however we are talking the OS and not pure hardware.

an excerpt directly from the link you provided: "Microsoft Windows implements PAE if booted with the appropriate option, but current 32-bit desktop editions enforce the physical address space within 4GB even in PAE mode. According to Microsoft Technical Fellow Mark Russinovich, this was done to increase stability, as some drivers were found to be unstable when encountering physical addresses above 4GB.[2] and licensing[3] Unofficial kernel patches for Windows Vista 32-bit are available[dubious – discuss] that break this enforced limitation, though the stability is not guaranteed."

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby BlackTr » 30 Jul 2010 23:38

I have:
-win7 x64
-4gb ram
-AMD Turion 64 x2 cpu
-vlc 1.1.2

I have attached the screenshots of HD cartoon 'Cars':
Image vlc.png: ~2 minute in VLC
Image win.png: ~2 minute in Windows Media Player

Maybe there is reason to build vlc x64?

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby Steupz » 31 Jul 2010 04:10

Can you record a bit of that Cars clip and put it up?
I have a similar system/OS to yours and would like to test it cause I have no issues like that.

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 31 Jul 2010 15:58

That isn't 64 bit problem. If you open Tools -> Messages (set Verbosity to 2) before playback, it should complain something when the problem comes up.

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 02 Aug 2010 12:58

I have:
-win7 x64
-4gb ram
-AMD Turion 64 x2 cpu
-vlc 1.1.2

I have attached the screenshots of HD cartoon 'Cars':
Image vlc.png: ~2 minute in VLC
Image win.png: ~2 minute in Windows Media Player

Maybe there is reason to build vlc x64?
Which is totally irrelevant since WMP12 uses GPU for some codecs, by default, while VLC doesn't.
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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby humantriangle » 01 Sep 2010 17:29

I was going to clarify what 64-Bit actually means, and why it is still useful to run a 32-Bit program in a 64-Bit OS (although running a native 64-Bit is obviously always going to be better), but couldn't be bother to type it all out.

Also, you can set an exe to try and utilize 4GB instead of its given 2GB by enabling a flag called /LAA (or /LARGEADDRESSAWARE) You can look it up, but it isn't the best practise, nor recommended; but this usually helps speed up a resource heavy program in a 64-bit system. As far as VLC is concerned a 32-bit version should be sufficient as it is generally not resource heavy enough to exceed its allowed 2GB of virtual memory, plus you have to install 64-bit codecs, which I have not tried to looked for but can imagine aren't too common. I hope this clears any misunderstandings up for anyone :)

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby dblml320 » 15 Apr 2012 06:56

I see a need for a 64 bit version of VLC for Windows 7 for the following reason: Running more than 1 or 2 32 bit apps in Windows 7 (64 bit version) bogs down the 32 bit support. If I am running VLC playing 24 bit FLAC files, and I do anything significant in Windows 7 with a 32 bit application, I get dropouts and jitter in VLC playback.

From what I have read, Windows 7 64 bit can multitask 64 bit apps more smoothly. So I am hoping we see a 64 bit version of VLC, and soon ......

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 15 Apr 2012 11:12

That isn't the issue (that is another VLC bug). And there are 64 bit nightly builds if you want to test them out
http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win64/?C=M;O=D

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby dblml320 » 15 Apr 2012 12:56

Hello VLC_help,

1) Can you elaborate on the bug that is causing my problem? Anything I can do to VLC to mitigate the problem? I remember playing with input buffer size on WinAmp, but VLC does not seem to have any similar settings ...

2) Thanks for the pointer on the nightly builds. I will give them a try!

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby dblml320 » 16 Apr 2012 00:23

SO I tried the 64 bit nighlty build ... alas no sound. I was able to try Foobar2000, Media Player Classic, and POTPlayer, and all of these played my 24 bit files without fail in Windows 7, with other apps running.

So I truly hope this VLC glitch gets fixed .... :?:

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby VLC_help » 16 Apr 2012 18:49

Sound issues in VLC are most commonly related to timing issues of audio processing (==bugs in VLC). Usually those issues can be heard as stuttering, crackling etc. and they might only happen with certain files on certain situations (e.g. overclocked computer, power saving mode of Windows On etc.).

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Re: VLC 64 bit for windows 7 ?

Postby pushb » 23 Oct 2012 16:39

Hi all,
I have asus c530 laptop , in which i have installed windows 7 64 bit ultimate edition. i have installed VLC media player 64 bit version and im getting irritating noises in it. i have tried vlc 32 bit also. but nothing helped me.
i have checked my drivers and OS. windows media player is working fine with much clarity. so, i confirmed that, there is no problem with audio drivers.
can anyone help me in this.


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