Time for Blu-Ray support guys...

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

What is PGS?

Presentation Graphic Stream (.SUP)

Format for subtitles used on Blu-ray.
MPC-HC can display them, maybe you could have a look at the code

Maybe, thanks for the report...

Could you fill a bug, please?

[Lotesdelere]

Could you fill a bug, please?

http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/2604

[forart.it]

Check this out: https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browser/trunk (libbluray, libaacs, etc..)

Doom9's related 3ad

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Yes, who has time to do it?

[nadavvadan]

everybody can rip a BD to their hdd, even if it requires wine or crossover.
im a mac user myself and it's not a big deal to rip a blu-ray to a hdd.
the problem is, that it plays choppy and doesn't have a menu like a real BD has.
some blu-rays play well and some don't have any video track.


vlc version: 0.9.9a/1.0.0 rc-2 tried both
core 2 duo 2.4 GHz
mac os X.5.7

[DGMurdockIII]

i thnk it time for blu ray support or at least try to work it in before you guys get to 1.5 or at least 2.0

[kurkosdr]

DRM of Blu Ray is not borken. Ask the Hollywood to open the specifications.

https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browse ... /libbluray

Now you have the specifications to make all pre-May 2008 BluRay titles play on VLC. So now you can't blame hollywood because you don't have the time to implement it into VLC. If legality is the problem, create an "uofficial" version of VLC outside the VLC project, called "VLC With Dirty Libbluray Support" and sign me up for the updates, please.

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

[nikola23]

https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browse ... /libbluray

Now you have the specifications to make all pre-May 2008 BluRay titles play on VLC. So now you can't blame hollywood because you don't have the time to implement it into VLC. If legality is the problem, create an "uofficial" version of VLC outside the VLC project, called "VLC With Dirty Libbluray Support" and sign me up for the updates, please.

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

If you actually read up on libbluray you'll find out that its not even close to being working. Everytime a new disc gets released they need to fix it for the new movies because they havent implimented the VM that "real" bluray decoding requires.

[kurkosdr]

If you actually read up on libbluray you'll find out that its not even close to being working. Everytime a new disc gets released they need to fix it for the new movies because they havent implimented the VM that "real" bluray decoding requires.

They claim to have implemented a near perfect implementation of the first version of the BD-J Virtual Machine. The VM was changed later, and that's why even relatively new players needed a firmware upgrade. However, movies that were made before the VM was changed run smoothly. so it's better that nothing, and it would be good to have it in VLC.

[VLC_help]

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

AFAIK no.

[leQ]

i really don't understand why the open source community is having such a problem getting a BD capable player out. what's the hangup?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

License, Code, reverse engineering and so on.

[kurkosdr]

i really don't understand why the open source community is having such a problem getting a BD capable player out. what's the hangup?

Sony (the creator of the BluRay Movie standard) is a very secretive company. They won't give you the standards for the creation and playback of bluray movies unless you buy a "license". Hence, the menu format for bluray movies, BD-J (the programming language for the intractive features) and the playback method for copy protected movies are all secrets of Sony, revealed only to afflicate companies.
So, the only viable solution for the opensource community is to reverse engineer (guess) the standards trough "unofficial" methods, hoping they 'll come up with a working software for playback and creation of bluray movies.

Till then, although opensource programs will be capable of storing various data on BluRay recordable discs, they won't be able to create and play Bluray *movies*, at least not 100%

Till now, the best possible solutions is DumpHD along with VLC for playback, and TSMuxer for authoring.

Or you can be a good customer and waste money for PowerDVD, thus producing profit for Cyberlink and Sony...

[kurkosdr]

At least did we got menu support for bluray movies with 1.0?

That shouldn't be that hard to implement.

There are programs out there who can make nice BluRay movies with menus from people's home recordings, so it would be nice to be able to play them with VLC.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

No, we don't have that yet.

Help and samples are welcome.

[Lotesdelere]

http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/bdplus

[nikola23]

No, we don't have that yet.

Help and samples are welcome.

As far as the sample goes are there any certain files on the disc that you would need? I have access to bluray discs and a drive so id be able to get them i just imagine you dont want 40 gig disc images.

[VLC_help]

At least did we got menu support for bluray movies with 1.0?

AFAIK Blu-ray Menu support would require BD-J implementation. So it is very unlikely to see this anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD-J

[kurkosdr]

AFAIK Blu-ray Menu support would require BD-J implementation. So it is very unlikely to see this anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD-J

.. and, proprietary software popped off ahead again (at least in the video dept)

Anyway, these guys at DVd Fab promised GPLing the code of their console version, so it can still be done.

[VLC_help]

I don't think DVDFab has BD-J menu support in their ripping software.

[DGMurdockIII]

https://hdcookbook.dev.java.net/ - The HD Cookbook Open-source Project contains tools and frameworks for the production of a BD disc image that contains BD-J applications

[seth_keith]

with copy protection removed, only 1 in 4 mt2s movies play. Most just show a 'green screen'. Same movie plays fine with mplayer. Also as far as I can tell, no support for TrueHD or DTS. How do we make this stuff work.

As for a feature request what about navigating the Bluray structure.

[nikola23]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure only movies that were encoded as interlaced will work.

[VLC_help]

Most Blu-ray movies are progressive, not interlaced. And Interlaced ones are more likely to have issues because interlaced decoding has some issues with libavcodec (at least with H.264 and VC-1). And if you non-working file, you could you share short sample files to us? You can use tsMuxeR for cutting.

[kurkosdr]

Most just show a 'green screen'. Same movie plays fine with mplayer.

Aren't Mplayer and VLC supposed to be able to share code? So why it this happening?

The reason i told about DVD fab GPLing their code is that if VLC manages to see through copy protection, it would be still a great step, despite the lack of menu support