Disable mouse wheel changing volume

[theone256]

Hi,

With VLC 0.9, the mouse wheel controls the volume. How can I disable that?
I already use the mouse wheel to seek in the video.

Thanks

[VLC_help]

I didn't find any option. You can bind keys to Mousewheel, but it will always change volume with it.

[deepone]

Now I'm depressed... Scrolling the wheel to catch a phrase again and such was the function I used most without contest before and now I upgrade VLC and I can't do this anymore... At least not without ending up with the volum set to zero at the same time...

I can't imagine that it would be hard to make this an option? Where can I go begging for this?

/Daniel

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

you can beg me.

Scrolling over the timeslider will seek.
Scrolling over everything else will volume control.

[Pluto71]

Scrolling over the timeslider will seek.

The seek interval when scrolling over the timeslider is 50 seconds - that doesn't match with the interval settings in the hotkeys-section. Is there any way to change that?

I agree with theone256 though: The ability to just disable the mousewheel volume control would be preferable. Having to position the pointer over the simeslider is bothersome, even if the seek interval can be changed. I am running a 3-monitor setup and my pointer is usually on a different screen. Just clicking the monitor or window that runs VLC is a lot less hassle than having to exactly hit the timeslider. For now I will downgrade to 0.8.6 again.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

The mouse scrolls 1% of the file.

[deepone]

Umm... This doesn't work in fullscreen, right? That's useless to me, sorry... (I tried it and as far as I can see it works in a window but not in fullscreen)

I run my computer on my TV with a wireless mouse in my hand to skip back/forward a few seconds at the time when I feel like it... I want "one mouse wheel step" to move 5 seconds or so... The beauty of the mouse wheel is that it is effortless to scroll lots of steps so the steps should be small... (Eg scrolling 10 steps to move a minute is no bother, it's just one motion)... One minute is way to long, I use this primarily to hear a phrase or scene again when it is unclear or I am distracted...

Also, about fullscreen, the "status/control" bar keeps popping up (and going away) all the time even though I'm touching nothing... This did not happen in the old version... (I used 8.5 or 8.6 before) ...

[iamcrazi]

I don't see the point of assigning volume to the mouse wheel...once the volume is set why would anyone want to change it so often? I found it much more useful to seek with the mouse (without having to point directly at the seek bar).
Also, I have volume control shortcut buttons on my keyboard, which are disabled when I have VLC open...very annoying.
These things amount to a deal breaker for me, I think I'll just roll back to the old version.

[jeroensky]

Run vlc in background and your volume issue is solved. ;-P

[iamcrazi]

Run vlc in background and your volume issue is solved. ;-P

Haha, sounds simple enough, but not for videos man.

[jeroensky]

I know, bad joke, but it works.

When not playing in fullscreen(use tv-out for full screen), play video, then click taskbar.(so that vlc is in background, but above or maximized above the taskbar). Just a temporary solution.

p.s. default 100% volume in vlc gui is 50%volume in Vista audio mixer. You can also keep vlc at 100% but move vista vlc volumeslider to max.

[The DJ]

To me personally, this falls into the category of "people are never happy". If we swap them around (time with horizontal scroll, volume with vertical scroll) I am sure that a group of people will say: WHY !?! i want to change time with vertical scroll and volume with horizontal scroll !

So atm, it is how it is, and unless someone has a brilliant idea how to fix dynamically Hotkey assignments for multiple actions, without breaking the entire code, it's probably not gonna change.

[iamcrazi]

I don't think it's too much to ask for an option to be able to change this in the settings. VLC 0.8 was awesome, and now they've messed with that formula.
Still, credit is due though....lots of good things in 0.9, just not enough to make me switch right now.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

I don't think it's too much to ask for an option to be able to change this in the settings. VLC 0.8 was awesome, and now they've messed with that formula.
Still, credit is due though....lots of good things in 0.9, just not enough to make me switch right now.

Then, just stay with 0.8... We don't force you to upgrade or anything... Seriously, we are not proprietary vendors that forces everything to everyone.
If you prefer 0.8, stay with 0.8. If you prefer 0.9, stay with 0.9...

But don't complain...

[iamcrazi]

Lol. I thought these forums were for discussion rather than praise alone . Should people not talk about this stuff here?
That's all besides the point anyway, the point of all of this was to inform the programmers that we would appreciate an option to change this in the settings in VLC.

[The DJ]

Lol. I thought these forums were for discussion rather than praise alone . Should people not talk about this stuff here?
That's all besides the point anyway, the point of all of this was to inform the programmers that we would appreciate an option to change this in the settings in VLC.

Sure, discuss away, but just to get it clear. There is a lot between discussion and a release and most people don't realise this. We have 700 or so outstanding bugfixes/features and most of them will likely not be implemented for the next 2 years (definitely with our small 'staff'). It is as simple as that.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Lol. I thought these forums were for discussion rather than praise alone . Should people not talk about this stuff here?
That's all besides the point anyway, the point of all of this was to inform the programmers that we would appreciate an option to change this in the settings in VLC.

Asking is different than spamming with the same report over and over and tell how much outrageous the situation is...

[iamcrazi]

This is turning into a childish argument.
Thanks for the constructive reply 'The DJ' and thanks for the great software.

[Jx7]

To me personally, this falls into the category of "people are never happy". If we swap them around (time with horizontal scroll, volume with vertical scroll) I am sure that a group of people will say: WHY !?! i want to change time with vertical scroll and volume with horizontal scroll !

So atm, it is how it is, and unless someone has a brilliant idea how to fix dynamically Hotkey assignments for multiple actions, without breaking the entire code, it's probably not gonna change.

Hi,

(excuse me if I don't write very well, I'm french)

I'm agree wth you when you write that people are never happy BUT I think that there is another problem...

Explain me why there is an option to be able to change the mousewheel function if this one is assigned to the volume and if we can't change that? It's simply absurd!

OK, it is how it is and it's probably not gonna change BUT you can admit that the code has not been properly written simply because in the 0.8 version you can assign the mousewheel to ANY function and in the 0.9 we can't...

Well, I'm not writing the truth... We can BUT it will be also assigned to the volume control...

Excuse me but this function has been badly thought...

Either you let us change the mousewheel assignement in our way, or you write in the code that the mousewheel is for the volume without any option to change it. But write that mousewheel = volume control while allowing us to assign an additional function to this one is stupid and it's annoying for everybody...

So, at least, you can recognize that this function has not been thought like a developper has to think...

Regards.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

To me personally, this falls into the category of "people are never happy". If we swap them around (time with horizontal scroll, volume with vertical scroll) I am sure that a group of people will say: WHY !?! i want to change time with vertical scroll and volume with horizontal scroll !

So atm, it is how it is, and unless someone has a brilliant idea how to fix dynamically Hotkey assignments for multiple actions, without breaking the entire code, it's probably not gonna change.

Hi,

(excuse me if I don't write very well, I'm french)

I'm agree wth you when you write that people are never happy BUT I think that there is another problem...

Explain me why there is an option to be able to change the mousewheel function if this one is assigned to the volume and if we can't change that? It's simply absurd!

OK, it is how it is and it's probably not gonna change BUT you can admit that the code has not been properly written simply because in the 0.8 version you can assign the mousewheel to ANY function and in the 0.9 we can't...

Well, I'm not writing the truth... We can BUT it will be also assigned to the volume control...

Excuse me but this function has been badly thought...

Either you let us change the mousewheel assignement in our way, or you write in the code that the mousewheel is for the volume without any option to change it. But write that mousewheel = volume control while allowing us to assign an additional function to this one is stupid and it's annoying for everybody...

So, at least, you can recognize that this function has not been thought like a developper has to think...

Regards.

Your patch is welcome...

[Jx7]

To me personally, this falls into the category of "people are never happy". If we swap them around (time with horizontal scroll, volume with vertical scroll) I am sure that a group of people will say: WHY !?! i want to change time with vertical scroll and volume with horizontal scroll !

So atm, it is how it is, and unless someone has a brilliant idea how to fix dynamically Hotkey assignments for multiple actions, without breaking the entire code, it's probably not gonna change.

Hi,

(excuse me if I don't write very well, I'm french)

I'm agree wth you when you write that people are never happy BUT I think that there is another problem...

Explain me why there is an option to be able to change the mousewheel function if this one is assigned to the volume and if we can't change that? It's simply absurd!

OK, it is how it is and it's probably not gonna change BUT you can admit that the code has not been properly written simply because in the 0.8 version you can assign the mousewheel to ANY function and in the 0.9 we can't...

Well, I'm not writing the truth... We can BUT it will be also assigned to the volume control...

Excuse me but this function has been badly thought...

Either you let us change the mousewheel assignement in our way, or you write in the code that the mousewheel is for the volume without any option to change it. But write that mousewheel = volume control while allowing us to assign an additional function to this one is stupid and it's annoying for everybody...

So, at least, you can recognize that this function has not been thought like a developper has to think...

Regards.

Your patch is welcome...

Hi,

You don't answer at all to my question or to my remarks so why do you bother to respond?

For information for those who are reading this topic : I was on IRC yesterday and I tried to speak with him. I write that "I tried" and you can read why :

(it's in french, sorry but I tried to do my best to translate it in english after the french version =)

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[00:32:14] <Jx7> j-b ? [00:32:18] <j-b> non [00:32:20] <Jx7> first, hi [00:32:37] <Jx7> lu j-b. On peut se parler en français? [00:32:44] <j-b> oui [00:32:53] <j-b> english is better though [00:33:41] <Jx7> OK. Je me présente : je suis la personne qui a posté dernièrement concernant le problème du volume associé à la molette de la souris dans VLC et à laquelle tu as répondu [00:34:58] <Jx7> J'aimerais juste comprendre pourquoi tu ne réponds ni à ma question ni à mes remarques et que tu te contente d'une simple phrase aussi inutile qu'ironique? [00:35:17] <Jx7> en sachant très bien que je suis loin d'être développeur... [00:36:52] <Jx7> j-b ? [00:36:55] <smo_> oh [00:36:56] <j-b> Jx7: 1/ parce que je suis méchant. 2/ parce que ça attendra la version 1.0 de VLC, donc, pas urgent [00:37:04] <smo_> ^^ [00:37:19] <smo_> au moins c est clair [00:37:44] <Jx7> le 2/ aurait sûrement été bcp plus utile sur le forum... quant au 1/ : lol [00:38:25] <j-b> tu veux que je fasses quoi... ça me gonfle, c'est pas dans mes priorités et je rejoint thedj, les gens ne sont jamais contents [00:38:46] <Jx7> oui c'est vrai et je l'ai précisé en début de post. ON est jamais content ^^ [00:39:02] <j-b> patches are welcome [00:39:04] <Jx7> mais admet quand meme que coder en dur molette = volume et proposer d'ajouter une fonction en plus du volume c'est totalement inutile [00:39:10] <j-b> toujours, et encore [00:39:19] <Jx7> y'en aura surement un qui va nous pondre ca... [00:39:20] <j-b> Jx7: non, je suis pas d'accord [00:39:35] <Jx7> je serais curieux de savoir pourquoi [00:39:35] <j-b> Jx7: je doute [00:39:50] <Jx7> j'ai rarement (pour pas dire jamais sans certitude) vu ca dans un logiciel [00:40:17] <Jx7> soit on paramètre une fonction du logiciel à notre guise soit c'est codé en dur mais les deux en même temps... [00:40:42] <Jx7> si t'en doute c'est une mauvaise nouvelle pour les mécontents dont je fais partie :/ [00:40:50] <j-b> voilà [00:40:56] <j-b> mauvais e nouvele pour vous [00:41:16] <j-b> mais la seule chose qui changera c'est que je vais enlever les fonctionnalités [00:41:28] <j-b> donc, au moins, y aura une bonne raison de se plaindre [00:41:50] <Jx7> les fonctionnalités? tu veux dire le parametrage molette? [00:43:01] <Jx7> c'est ça j-b ? [00:43:07] <j-b> Jx7: l'action de la molette dans l'interface par défaut [00:43:35] <Jx7> ok bah je trouve ça beaucoup plus propre. apres on aime ou on aime pas mais c'est propre [00:43:46] <j-b> bah, non [00:43:53] <j-b> les gens vont encore se plaindre [00:44:30] <Jx7> oui mais là ils auront moins de raisons de le faire :p [00:45:04] <j-b> Jx7: je suis pas d'accord [00:45:42] <Jx7> encore une fois, je serais curieux de savoir pourquoi [00:45:52] <Jx7> mais t'as pas l'air tres bavard la dessus [00:46:13] <j-b> le volume dans une appli de VIdéo doit être géré par la molette [00:46:24] <Jx7> OK admettons [00:46:34] <j-b> donc [00:46:38] <Jx7> pkoi nous laisser la possibilité de reparamétrer cette molette dans ce cas [00:47:16] <j-b> parce que lorsque tu es en mode vidéo, tu peux vouloir faire autrement [00:47:54] <Jx7> oui mais ça désactive pas la fonction volume donc on se retrouve avec une molette qui fais DEUX choses à la fois... imagine le délire [00:48:04] <Jx7> c'est là que je trouve ça choquant [00:48:49] <j-b> non, c'est ennuyant, pas choquant [00:49:19] <Jx7> va pour "ennuyant" [00:51:25] <Jx7> donc VLC 0.9 est "eenuyant" sur un point alors qu'il ne l'était pas avant. Il a surement gagner d'autres améliorations au passage mais là il s'agit d'une fonction majeure dans un logiciel de lecture vidéo :/ [00:52:34] <j-b> Jx7: et ? [00:53:29] <Jx7> et un point ennuyant sur une fonction aussi importante et utile que le volume mérite d'être amélioré je pense [00:53:58] <Jx7> NB : je suis pas là pour initier une gueguerre, entendons-nous bien. Je cherche juste à éclairer ce point [00:54:28] <Jx7> quant à "le volume dans une appli de VIdéo doit être géré par la molette" <== qui a décrété ça? laissons les utilisateurs faire comme bon leur semble ! si môssieur tartanpion est habitué a faire avance et retour rapide bah c'est pas glop [00:54:29] <j-b> Jx7: noté, tu trouves ça ennuyant, et ? [00:55:00] <Jx7> bah comme je viens de le dire, ça mérite d'être amélioré vu à quel point la fonction volume est une fonctio basique ! [00:55:25] <j-b> Jx7: tu te répètes [00:55:41] <j-b> Jx7: et donc, ça doit être amélioré, et alors... [00:55:54] <Jx7> bah oui, tu n'as pas l'air de (vouloir) comprendre [00:56:00] <xtophe> Jx7: y a bcp de choses qui méritent d'être ameliorer dans vlc [00:56:05] <j-b> mais tu le fais exprès ou quoi? [00:56:07] <Jx7> j'en doute pas xtophe [00:56:13] <j-b> on a compris ton point depuis des lustres [00:56:25] <j-b> mais ça va pas réparer le problème [00:56:37] <xtophe> Jx7: malheuresement les journées ont seulement 24h [00:57:41] <Jx7> certes j-b. je venais juste en paler car sur le forum on a l'impression qu'on est pris pour des chieurs qui viennent juste râler pour râler... et face à des réponses si peu constructives bah je venais en discuter en live c'est tout [00:57:59] <j-b> non [00:58:17] <j-b> ça fait 30 fois qu'il y a la même demande, avec du blabla chiant sans arrêt [00:58:27] <j-b> en nous prennant pour des débiles [00:58:32] <j-b> comme tu es en train de le faire [00:58:39] <j-b> et ça m'a tellement gavé [00:58:44] <j-b> que je vais pas réparer [00:58:46] <Jx7> je suis bien d'accord avec toi xtophe. mais notez au passage que si vous aviez répondu que c'était effectivement un point "ennuyant" qui mérite d'être amélioré bah on aurait dit "chouette, les développeurs nous ont écouté... laissons les taffer sur ce MERVEILLEUX logiciel, bla bla bla..." [00:59:15] <Jx7> bah voilà... c'est typiquement ce genre de réaction qui NOUS gave aussi... [00:59:16] <j-b> bah, ouais [00:59:26] <j-b> mais vous m'avez tellement gavé, que je doute le faire [00:59:27] <Jx7> on se tape que des réponses méga courtes, méga ironique... [00:59:42] <j-b> parce que vous vous donnez même pas la peine de chercher le forum [01:00:03] <Jx7> ah parce que ce point a été abordé ailleurs sur le forum? [01:00:22] <Jx7> je suis modo ailleurs donc je comprendrais que ce soit pas normal [01:00:35] <Jx7> dans ce cas, dites que c'est redondant, lockez le post et basta [01:00:42] <Jx7> on cherchera [01:02:01] <j-b> Jx7: si tu cherchais un peu le forum, tu saurais que si tu utilises la molette au dessus de la timeline [01:02:08] <j-b> ça fait le scroll que tu veux [01:02:26] <j-b> et que si tu fais le molette au dessus de la vidéo, ça fait aussi ce que tu veux [01:03:07] <Jx7> ah bon???? et bien je vais tester ça dès demain et si je viendrais faire mon mea culpa en public si ça te va [01:03:23] <Jx7> pour moi molette était égal à volume dans TOUS les cas [01:03:44] <j-b> mais j'en ai rien à taper de ton mea culpa [01:03:53] <Jx7> lol [01:03:59] <j-b> je sais pas si vous comprenez le concept de temps libre ? [01:04:02] <j-b> et d'open source ? [01:04:02] <Jx7> t'es un comique toi... [01:04:10] <Jx7> t'es pas obligé de causer comme ça [01:04:53] <j-b> bah, euh, là, je sais plus quoi faire [01:05:04] <j-b> vu le nombre de fois qu'on me casse les noix avec ça [01:05:05] <smo_> perso la je m ecraserais Jx7 ^^ [01:05:08] <j-b> y a un ticket [01:05:11] <j-b> on a compris [01:05:21] <j-b> on fixera le ticket en temps et en heures [01:05:28] <j-b> quand ça sera la priorité [01:05:54] <Jx7> pardon smo_? raison ou tord, j'essaie de parler correctement alors j'aime bien qu'on en fasse de meme en retour [01:06:01] <Jx7> si ca le gave c'est pas ma faute... [01:06:14] <smo_> on peut pas se permettre d imposer un "support" sur des softs comme ca je trouve, apres je comprend la frustration dans certains cas [01:06:32] <Jx7> j'impose quedal [01:06:39] <Jx7> j'essaie juste de comprendre... [01:06:49] <j-b> non, mais on se faisait insulter quand la molette ne faisait pas le volume de base [01:06:49] <smo_> bah je connais pas toute la story... [01:06:52] <j-b> on le fais [01:06:56] <j-b> et on se fait engueuler [01:06:57] <Jx7> si on me repondais sur un autre ton ca serait peut etre deja terminé [01:07:20] <Jx7> smo_ bah si tu connais pas toute la story, ne fais pas de remarque ou alors va lire les réponses sur le topic [01:07:32] <smo_> bah pose uen question claire si les dev te disent on sait on va le faire a ce que j ai compris, bah on attend et voila... [01:07:52] <Jx7> non j-b... tu le fais peut etre mais on dénote quand meme qua ca a l'air de te faire chier [01:07:58] <smo_> pour une histoire de mollete ca va loin quand meme [01:08:07] <Jx7> de VOLUME [01:08:14] <j-b> non, de molette [01:08:16] <Jx7> fonction primordial dans un soft de lecture video [01:08:25] <Jx7> MOLETTE associée au VOLUME [01:08:25] <j-b> et oui, tu me fais perdre mon temps, [01:08:34] <Jx7> ok arretons nous la alors j-b [01:08:37] <Jx7> a bon entendeur... [01:08:40] <j-b> non [01:08:42] <j-b> y a un ticket [01:08:46] <j-b> tu commentes le ticket [01:09:08] <j-b> d'ailleurs, rien que la longueur du ticket montre bien pkoi on en a marre [01:09:16] <j-b> on a COMPRID [01:09:23] <j-b> et , c'est pas notre priorité [01:09:36] <j-b> mais on fermera le ticket quand on pourra [01:09:43] <j-b> mais 1/ arrêter de m'insulter [01:09:51] <Jx7> MOI j'insulte???????? [01:09:52] <j-b> 2/ de e faire perde mon temps [01:10:00] <j-b> 3/ de pas chercher dans le forum [01:10:05] <j-b> 4/ de pas chercher dans trac [01:10:28] * Jx7 lis les logs à la recherche d'une insulte cachée [01:11:11] <Jx7> quant aux autres points j'ai rien à répondre dans la mesure où, je cite, t'en as "rien à taper" de mon mea culpa [01:11:40] <Jx7> donc sur ce, je vous souhaite bien du courage et merci pour le temps consacré [01:11:42] <Jx7> ++ [01:11:43] <malc__> this conversation is apparently too much for me to bear, even though i don't know french. thanks for suggestions and au revoir. [01:11:47] * Départ: malc__ (n=malc@83.167.112.74) [01:12:22] <smo_> au revoir ^^ [01:18:23] <j-b> pfff [01:18:56] <smo_> t enerves pas ^^ [01:19:00] <j-b> mais si [01:19:05] <j-b> toujours pareil [01:19:31] <j-b> les gens ne lisent pas le forum, ni le trac et considère que leur problème est le plus important [01:19:42] <j-b> et que leur utilisation de VLC est la seule qui existent [01:19:45] <j-b> -nt [01:19:50] <smo_> je connais ca du haut de mes quelques script [01:19:57] <smo_> donc pour vlc j ose pas imaginer... [01:20:07] <j-b> et que donc, il faut réparer ça au plus vite sur notre temps libre [01:20:26] <smo_> j ai bien compris t inquietes [01:20:40] <Jx7> jamais dis un truc pareil...

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[00:32:14] <Jx7> j-b ? [00:32:18] <j-b> no [00:32:20] <Jx7> first, hi [00:32:37] <Jx7> hi j-b. Can we speak in french? [00:32:44] <j-b> yes [00:32:53] <j-b> english is better though [00:33:41] <Jx7> OK. I introduce myself : I am the person who post recently in the VLC forum about the problem of the volume associated with the mousewheel in VLC. [00:34:58] <Jx7> I just would like to understand why you do not answer my question or my remarks and why you answer with a very simple and ironic answer? [00:35:17] <Jx7> knowing that I am certainly not a developer [00:36:52] <Jx7> j-b ? [00:36:55] <smo_> oh [00:36:56] <j-b> Jx7: 1/ because I am wicked. 2/ because it will wait for version 1.0 of VLC, therefore, no urgency [00:37:04] <smo_> ^^ [00:37:19] <smo_> at least it's clear [00:37:44] <Jx7> the 2/ would surely have been much more useful on the forum and for the 1/ : lol [00:38:25] <j-b> you want me to do what... it fills me, this is not in my priorities and I'm agree with thedj, people are never happy [00:38:46] <Jx7> yes, it's true and I wrote it in my post. WE are never happy ^^ [00:39:02] <j-b> patches are welcome [00:39:04] <Jx7> but you can admit that write mousewheel = volume and let us add another function for the mousewheel is totally useless [00:39:10] <j-b> again and again [00:39:19] <Jx7> anyone will certainly make this patch... [00:39:20] <j-b> Jx7: no, I'm not agree [00:39:35] <Jx7> I am curious to know why [00:39:35] <j-b> Jx7: I doubt it for the patch [00:39:50] <Jx7> I rarely (or never) see that in a software [00:40:17] <Jx7> etheir we can set a function like we want in the software, or it is hard-coded but both at the same time... [00:40:42] <Jx7> If you doubt it for the patch, it's a bad news for all the person like me that are not happy with this problem [00:40:50] <j-b> yep [00:40:56] <j-b> bad news for you [00:41:16] <j-b> but the only things that will change it's that I will remove features [00:41:28] <j-b> So at least there will be a good reason to complain [00:41:50] <Jx7> features? you mean the setting of the mousewheel? [00:43:01] <Jx7> is that correct j-b ? [00:43:07] <j-b> Jx7: the action of the mousewheel in the default interface [00:43:35] <Jx7> I find it much cleaner. We like it or not but it's cleaner [00:43:46] <j-b> no [00:43:53] <j-b> people will still complain [00:44:30] <Jx7> yes but that they have less reason to do so: p [00:45:04] <j-b> Jx7: I'm not agree [00:45:42] <Jx7> again, I would be curious to know why [00:45:52] <Jx7> but you don't seems very talkative on this point [00:46:13] <jb> the volume in a video application must be managed by the mousewheel [00:46:24] <Jx7> supposing it's true [00:46:34] <j-b> so [00:46:38] <Jx7> why let us the possibility to set this mousewheel in this case? [00:47:16] <jb> because when you're in video mode, you may want to do otherwise [00:47:54] <Jx7> yes but if I do that, it will not disable the volume function volume so after that, the mousewheel is doing two things at once ... imagine how shocking it is [00:48:04] <Jx7> this is where I find it shocking [00:48:49] <jb> no, it's annoying, not shocking [00:49:19] <Jx7> OK, "annoying" [00:51:25] <Jx7> So VLC 0.9 is "annoying" on a point when it was not before. He's probably better on many other points but not on this function that is basic and very important for a video software :/ [00:52:34] <j-b> Jx7: and? [00:53:29] <Jx7> and an annoying point on an important and useful function like the volume should be improved I think [00:53:58] <Jx7> NB: I'm not there to initiate a war, I hope you're OK with that. I just seeks to understand [00:54:28] <Jx7> and about "the volume in a video application must be managed by the mousewheel"<== who say that? let the users do as they want! if we are accustomed to advance and rewind, it's not cool [00:54:29] <jb> Jx7: OK, you find it annoying, and? [00:55:00] <Jx7> weel, as I said, it should be improved for a basic function like the volume! [00:55:25] <j-b> Jx7: you repeat [00:55:41] <jb> Jx7: so it must be improved, and so... [00:55:54] <Jx7> yes I repeat because you don't seem to understand (or don't want) [00:56:00] <xtophe> Jx7: a lot of things should be improve in VLC [00:56:05] <j-b> you do it intentionally or what? [00:56:07] <Jx7> I have no doubt on this xtophe [00:56:13] <jb> we have understood your point since a lot of time [00:56:25] <jb> but it will not fix the problem [00:56:37] <xtophe> Jx7: unfortunately a day have only 24 hours [00:57:41] <Jx7> certainly j-b. I was just talking on the forum because it feels that you think we are people who always grumble for nothing... and when I read the kind of answer you post on the forum, I prefer chat with you directly. [00:57:59] <j-b> no [00:58:17] <jb> 30 times the same request, with non-stop boring blah-blah [00:58:27] <jb> considering us for stupid person [00:58:32] <j-b> as you are doing [00:58:39] <j-b> and I was so annoyed [00:58:44] <j-b> that I will not fix [00:58:46] <Jx7> I agree with you xtophe. but note that if you had replied that it was an annoying point that should be improved, we thought it's great, developers have listened us so now let us improve this wonderful software, blah blah blah... [00:59:15] <Jx7> j-b, this is typically the kind of reaction that annoying us... [00:59:16] <j-b> yes [00:59:26] <jb> but you have so annoyed us that it's probably what I'll do [00:59:27] <Jx7> gret, short and ironic answers... [00:59:42] <jb> because you give not even bother to search in the forum [01:00:03] <Jx7> this has been discussed elsewhere on the forum? [01:00:22] <Jx7> I'm a moderator in a nother forum so I can understand that this is not normal if it's true [01:00:35] <Jx7> but in this case, write that it's redundant, lock the post and that's all [01:00:42] <Jx7> we will have a look [01:02:01] <jb> Jx7: If you were looking for a little in the forum, you know that if you use the mousewheel on top of the timeline [01:02:08] <j-b> you have the scroll you want [01:02:26] <jb> and if you use the mousewheel above video, it's also what you want [01:03:07] <Jx7> really?? well, I will test it tomorrow and if it's OK I'll come back on IRC for a mea culpa in public if it's OK for you [01:03:23] <Jx7> for me, the mousewheel was ALWAYS associated with the volume [01:03:44] <jb> but I don't give a sh*t of your mea culpa [01:03:53] <Jx7> lol [01:03:59] <jb> I don't know if you understand the concept of free time? [01:04:02] <j-b> and open source? [01:04:02] <Jx7> oh, you're a comic [01:04:10] <Jx7> you don't have to write like that [01:04:53] <jb> well, um, I don't know what to do [01:05:04] <jb> seen the number of times that someone break my nuts with it [01:05:05] <smo_> if I were you, I will stop here ^^ [01:05:08] <j-b> there is a ticket [01:05:11] <j-b> we have understood [01:05:21] <jb> we'll fix the ticket in time [01:05:28] <j-b> when it will be the priority [01:05:54] <Jx7> excuse me smo_? I can be right or wrong but I try to speak correctly so I appreciate when my interlocutor do the same with me [01:06:01] <Jx7> if it's annoying for him, it's not my fault... [01:06:14] <smo_> I think we can not afford to force a support on a software like this. Even if I understand the frustration in some cases [01:06:32] <Jx7> I don't force anything [01:06:39] <Jx7> I'm just trying to understand... [01:06:49] <jb> I was insulted when the mousewheel was not for the volume [01:06:49] <smo_> well, I don't know the whole story... [01:06:52] <j-b> we change it [01:06:56] <j-b> and now people are dissatisfied [01:06:57] <Jx7> if you answered me on another way it might already be finished [01:07:20] <Jx7> smo_ if you don't know the whole story, don't say anything or read the answers on the topic [01:07:32] <smo_> ask a clear question and if the developers tell you they know and they will fix it, wait and that's all [01:07:52] <Jx7> no j-b... maybe you do it but we can realize that it's annoying for you [01:07:58] <smo_> all that story only for a mousewheel [01:08:07] <Jx7> about VOLUME [01:08:14] <j-b> no, about mousewheel [01:08:16] <Jx7> vital function in a video software [01:08:25] <Jx7> OK so : MOUSEWHEEL associated with VOLUME [01:08:25] <jb> and yes, you make me lose my time, [01:08:34] <Jx7> ok so we can stop here j-b [01:08:37] <Jx7> see ya [01:08:40] <j-b> no [01:08:42] <j-b> there is a ticket [01:08:46] <j-b> comment the ticket [01:09:08] <jb> indeed, nothing but the length of the ticket shows why we are tired [01:09:16] <j-b> we have UNDERSTOOD [01:09:23] <j-b> and is not our priority [01:09:36] <jb> but we will close the ticket when we can [01:09:43] <j-b> but 1 / stop insult me [01:09:51] <Jx7> insulting ???????? [01:09:52] <j-b> 2 / lose my time [01:10:00] <j-b> 3 / not search in the forum [01:10:05] <j-b> 4 / not to look in the trac [01:10:28] * Jx7 read the logs in search of a hidden insult [01:11:11] <Jx7> about 2/ 3/ and 4/ I have nothing to answer because "you don't give a --please stay polite--" of my mea culpa [01:11:40] <Jx7> So, good luck and thank you for your time [01:11:42] <Jx7> ++ [01:11:43] <malc__> this conversation is apparently too much for me to bear, even though i don't know french. thanks for suggestions and au revoir. [01:11:47] * Départ: malc__ (n=malc@83.167.112.74) [01:12:22] <smo_> goodbye ^^ [01:18:23] <j-b> pfff [01:18:56] <smo_> don't be angry ^^ [01:19:00] <j-b> yes I am [01:19:05] <j-b> always the same thing [01:19:31] <j-b> people don't read the forum, neither the trac and they consider that their problem is most important [01:19:42] <j-b> and their use VLC is the only existing [01:19:50] <smo_> I know that with my few scripts [01:19:57] <smo_> so I can imagine with VLC... [01:20:07] <j-b> and therefore we must fix it quickly on our free time [01:20:26] <smo_> I understand, don't worry [01:20:40] <Jx7> I never said that...

So if I resume :

j-b, for you this problem is "annoying" but it's not a priority.
However it will be fixed one day...

I am right isn't it?

It was the only thing I wanted to know and here is all I had to do to get it... A very short and simple answer on THIS forum would suffice.

To finish I just want to write that we all are humans and for that reason we deserve a minimum of respect so if you don't want to answer, just don't answer... I prefer no answers instead of read "I don't give a sh*t" or others things...

remember a phrase of your signature :
"If you want an answer to your question, just be specific and verbose. Don't PM."

I tried to be as specific as I can.
I was not unpleasant.
I do my best (and I'm still doing) to write in english.
Instead of a nasty reply on this topic I tried to join you on IRC.

Well, I did my best to have an answer without any kind of "war" and I hope you realize how difficult it was...

Regards,
Jx7

[deepone]

To me personally, this falls into the category of "people are never happy". If we swap them around (time with horizontal scroll, volume with vertical scroll) I am sure that a group of people will say: WHY !?! i want to change time with vertical scroll and volume with horizontal scroll !

So atm, it is how it is, and unless someone has a brilliant idea how to fix dynamically Hotkey assignments for multiple actions, without breaking the entire code, it's probably not gonna change.

Umm... Vertical/horizontal scrolling? Do you have several mousewheels or what do you mean?

You can change the setting for binding the wheel to moving in time right now... Why would it be harder to do the same for sound? All that is needed is realli a checkbox and a bool to customize whether to change the volume when scrolling or not... I can already customize the time scrolling, I just can't disable the volume changing... Really, I guess I could fix this by myself but it seems very much like an easy fix and I'd rather not have to setup a dev.env...

I do like the program, that's why I get depressed when it stops working for my purpose...

[deepone]

Maybe something like this?

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diff -ruNb vlc-0.9.3-orig/modules/control/hotkeys.c vlc-0.9.3/modules/control/hotkeys.c --- vlc-0.9.3-orig/modules/control/hotkeys.c 2008-10-03 01:46:43.998451000 +0200 +++ vlc-0.9.3/modules/control/hotkeys.c 2008-10-03 01:53:23.094038000 +0200 @@ -876,6 +876,9 @@ /* FIXME: This should probably be configurable */ /* FIXME: rework hotkeys handling to allow more than 1 event * to trigger one same action */ + + // Make it possible to disable this special case + if(! config_GetInt( p_pintf, "no_wheel_special" ) ) { switch (newval.i_int & KEY_SPECIAL) { case KEY_MOUSEWHEELUP: @@ -893,6 +896,7 @@ default: return VLC_SUCCESS; } + } if( i_action ) return PutAction( p_intf, i_action ); diff -ruNb vlc-0.9.3-orig/src/libvlc-module.c vlc-0.9.3/src/libvlc-module.c --- vlc-0.9.3-orig/src/libvlc-module.c 2008-10-03 01:46:40.621844000 +0200 +++ vlc-0.9.3/src/libvlc-module.c 2008-10-03 01:56:29.714967000 +0200 @@ -200,6 +200,10 @@ "When this is enabled, the interface will show a dialog box each time " \ "some user input is required." ) +#define NOWHEELSPEC_TEXT N_("No special mouse wheel (eg volume)") +#define NOWHEELSPEC_LONGTEXT N_( \ + "Disable special case handling of mouse wheel (eg for adjusting volume)") + /***************************************************************************** * Audio @@ -1969,6 +1973,9 @@ add_bool( "interact", true, NULL, INTERACTION_TEXT, INTERACTION_LONGTEXT, false ); + add_bool( "no_wheel_special", true, NULL, NOWHEELSPEC_TEXT, + NOWHEELSPEC_LONGTEXT, false ); + add_bool( "show-intf", false, NULL, SHOWINTF_TEXT, SHOWINTF_LONGTEXT, false ); change_need_restart();

http://www.cs.umu.se/~daniel/vr/wheel_volume.diff

I haven't setup a dev.env for vlc so I haven't even compiled this but it seems simple enough.... ?

(Note the preexisting FIXME ... )

[daff]

I think I found a little mistake in writing.
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+ if(! config_GetInt( p_pintf, "no_wheel_special" ) ) {

p_pintf
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+ if(! config_GetInt( p_intf, "no_wheel_special" ) ) {

p_intf

[media]

Both GOM Player and Nero Showtime allow users to scroll/advance the video ahead using the mouse wheel without having it be on the video scroll bar. GOM is free. It is a real convenient feature, particularly by not having to worry if your mouse has drifted off the scroll bar region thereby causing you to blast the volume. Because of this feature alone, GOM is my default player and VLC get used infrequently. Simple features in software should be convenient. Scrolling the time is a simple feature.