Help us to set VLC for Microsoft Vista.

[WhyWouldIStop]

Hi,
I'm not all that great with computers so i can't answer most of your questions but I do know that I have 958 MB of RAM, I have Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6150 LE.

I just wanted to say that when I first installed windows vista VLC would show a blank screen and play only sound. After updating my drivers it would show only one color at a time as if the entire screen were one pixel. It also played sound. Then I downloaded 20061030-000.zip (i believe). Now for some reason if I just use Open With... to open a file in VLC it does the same as earlier but if I open VLC first and then drag the file into the player it works fine. Also when I use full screen the space bar doesn't work to pause the video.

[Lord Fluffybum]

Vista Home Premium
ATI Catalyst 7.1
X1300 PCI-E

With the latest build, doesn't matter the output mode, comes up the same. The audio is fine, but only one color shows up at a time for the entire video.

Under the current 8.6a build, the audio is fine, the video shows nothing but a white screen. Oddly enough, when I press snapshot the video comes up for the length of the snapshot preview. When watching a DVD if I have the subtitles the video shows, but with each subtitle change the screen flickers white. When no subtitles are up the screen is white.

A comparison for the 8.6a build would be like watching an .avi file in Windows Media Player. You get the audio, but the visual is nonexistant.

[FnF]

Vista Ultimate
NVIDIA 100.59

trunk-20070208-0001

First thing I noticed is some weird background debugger, but well, on to the rest

DirectX: When I move VLC screen, the video stays where it is. Also, expanding the size doesnt work, original size is remained. Quality is good, but Aero goes off.
DirectX3D: Black screen, Aero works.
OpenGL: Works, but bad video quality, and some lag.
GDI: Too bad quality to use.

Also tried VLC Portable, got blackscreen there as well.

[breiter]

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 6.0.6000
VLC version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070209-0001
Graphics Card: ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM) 8.31.100.321

Modules:
* DirectX 3D default configuration dispalys a black screen. Aero works.
* DirectX 3D with YUV to RGB disabled. Works. Aero works. (Best quality of tests.)
* DiretcX works but disables Aero.
* OpenGL works very slow frame rate at 1920x1200. Aero works.
* GDI+ works but DVD movie menus are not interactive. Prominent interlacing. Aero works.

[miejas]

Jean-Baptiste, If you haven't already notice:

Everyone has exactly the same problems with every goddamn build of VLC!!

[djsubterrain]

I'm using Vista Ultimate and VLC build 0.8.6a (the public build), I use the OpenGL output and I've disabled "Use hardware YUV->RGB conversions" under the DirectX output.

My card is an ATI X1900XT and aero works perfectly as does the video (in a window and in full screen.

I was previously having the same problems as most other people.

Just to prove aero still works, see this screenshot (the video was in full flow at the time- XVID Lost episode)

[toddeswe]

The ONLY way i managed to get this to work is using the GDI option. Nothing else is working for me on Vista Retail Ultimate x86

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Jean-Baptiste, If you haven't already notice:

Everyone has exactly the same problems with every goddamn build of VLC!!

As if I did not see it.

Vista is unstable, not only with VLC. Vista has poor video and gaming performance, and this is not related to VLC. Vista is badly selling, and this has nothing to do with VLC.

NVidia drivers are not finished (announce made by NVIDIA), ATI drivers in OpenGl Bluescreens a lot of PC.

A lot of professional applications do not work with Vista. And they had free copies of Vista month before the release.

We are a little development team. Noone of us have a final copy of Windows Vista, because it is expensive and Microsoft did not give us a working copy. And we work on VLC on our free time. You are not dumbier than we are, so please give us a hand, learn how to program and fix VLC, and the drivers and VISTA

[toddeswe]

I realy understand your problem.
I'm not angry or anything, just trying to report my problem and see what I can do to help you. I tried the latest available beta version, but it said something about a missing folder in my Documents and Settings/User and so on, so i uninstalled it and went back to the latest official release.

Todde

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

What is your Video Card ?

[toddeswe]

My videocard is a budget model ASUS EN7100GS. For now!

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

So, sorry then. NVIDIA said their drivers were not finished and would be finished in march. Trying older version of vlc did not help you ?

[toddeswe]

Yes it did when using Windows GDI video output. So i'm pleased for the moment. The Nvidia's drivers aren't their finest houre. So as long it's working and i can preview my movies i'm sattified.

Feel free to ask me to try things you want to try. Btw i think you can download a 30 days free trail of the Vista operating system from Microsoft. Then just install it over and over again untill you got the money to buy the damned thing. That's what i'm doing

Todde

[CowMix]

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070130-0001
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.1151

Windows GDI: Works, but laggy (720p / 1080p) and cheap quality
DirectX Video: Works fine, but Aero is turned off.
OpenGL: Much more laggy than Windows GDI not watchable. But works.
Direct3D: Still Black screen with "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" ON even of "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" OFF. Only if i press CTRL+Q i see short picture or video ending....

Greets
CoDeX2k

I can confirm all this information with:
OS: Windows Vista Business (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070220-0330
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.11587

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070130-0001
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.1151

Windows GDI: Works, but laggy (720p / 1080p) and cheap quality
DirectX Video: Works fine, but Aero is turned off.
OpenGL: Much more laggy than Windows GDI not watchable. But works.
Direct3D: Still Black screen with "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" ON even of "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" OFF. Only if i press CTRL+Q i see short picture or video ending....

Greets
CoDeX2k

I can confirm all this information with:
OS: Windows Vista Business (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070220-0330
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.11587

And with 0.8.6a on intel cards with YUV =>RGB deactivated ?

[CowMix]

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070130-0001
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.1151

Windows GDI: Works, but laggy (720p / 1080p) and cheap quality
DirectX Video: Works fine, but Aero is turned off.
OpenGL: Much more laggy than Windows GDI not watchable. But works.
Direct3D: Still Black screen with "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" ON even of "hardware YUV to RGB conversion" OFF. Only if i press CTRL+Q i see short picture or video ending....

Greets
CoDeX2k

I can confirm all this information with:
OS: Windows Vista Business (x86)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20070220-0330
Graphics Card: INTEL GMA 945GM Express Chipset
Driver: 7.14.0010.11587

And with 0.8.6a on intel cards with YUV =>RGB deactivated ?

for directx 3d works the same activate and deactivated, but for some reason when you press ctrl + q, you see a piece of the video right before it quits.

for directx it works on either setting but aero is disabled

[Lord Fluffybum]

Vista has poor... gaming performance

Not to be a whiner, but I have to severly disagree. There's problems (a lot of problems) but I've been playing a few games, and kicking a lot of ass in games with Vista. More depends on a game even being compatible, and having suitable hardware. A 4% overall difference according to one site in most games, barely noticeable by most people, and doing something like switching down one level of anti-aliasting would do the trick to equal out or improve performance.

And to really be a son of a gun:

$30 more then XP home, Aero
$5 more then XP home, no Aero
And no, these are not upgrade versions, they're standalone versions.

The difference in expense? Two to ten days worth of junk food.

To finish this up, I do appreciate all the work that's being put into VideoLAN. Assuming I get a paycheck this Friday, I will be sending in a donation due to not having to buy a DVDripper. And one side note, the paragraphs above is mostly posted to validate my psyche on buying Vista.

And for another sidenote, VLC 0.8.0 works fine with Vista.

[CowMix]

I don't see a difference between 0.8.0 on vista and the latest, they both disable aero when playing.

[Lord Fluffybum]

I don't see a difference between 0.8.0 on vista and the latest, they both disable aero when playing.

They got it to work. Kick ass.

Thanks for the heads-up.



New report:
Windows Vista Home Premium
VLC 0.9.0-svn-20070223-2147
ATI Asus X1300 pci-e
Catalyst 7.1

All modes work, with and without the YUV->RGB. Video does seem a little bit more pixelated then normal, but it does work.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

http://techgage.com/article/windows_vis ... ce_reports

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=35 ... pert&pid=2

Well, that is not the topic...

[CowMix]

the only problem I see with vlc and vista has to do with directx 3d, everything else is working fine. OpenGL doesn't disable aero but it lags probably because I have an integrated intel card. I may install vista on my desktop pretty soon which has a nvidia card so I'll do some more testing on that when I get a chance to install.

[Lord Fluffybum]

Just ran through the output modes again. Didn't realize that the video has to be stopped first, my bad.

Things look great now, don't have the pixelation affect anymore. Colors are nice and rich with the ASCII Art Video mode.


And j-b, those links pretty much say what I've heard. In some cases it's bad, but in most the performance lost isn't all that great. Less then 1% in difference for 3DMark06 is pretty darn good.

[CowMix]

Intel Progress!

On the most recent trunk (20070224-0000), no more black screen

for directx 3d yuv -> rbg, enabled and disabled, the player shows the first image of the video but will not play, it just stays on the first frame. seeking also remains on the first video frame.

[capitaine_choc]

My computer: Dell D610, Windows Vista Business final, Graphic card Intel GMA 900 driver 6.14.10.4656 XDDM from Microsoft.
No Aero, no OpenGL as Intel has decided to dump the support of GMA 900.
VLC 0.86a

Nota: I dunno why there's "directX video output" twice in the options of VLC. Maybe cause I have two graphics card in the device manager.

Using default mode:
VLC works perfectly with defaults settings. even in fullscreen or with several videos at the same time. The only issue concerns the lack of "playing as wallpaper".

Using DirectX 3D Video Output with hardware YUV to RGB conversion
- When selecting a menu, it blinks during a quarter of second before appearing.
- Playing as a wallpaper works, but badly cause the fonts on the desktop are bold! And when I turn VLC off, the wallpaper is black!

Using DirectX 3D Video Output withOUT hardware YUV to RGB conversion
same as with

Using OpenGL Video output:
- As with DirectX output, menus blink but this time it's up to 2 seconds.
- Playing as a wallpaper is not supported.
- CPU consumption is extremely high
I repeat once again: As my videos drivers are from microsoft, OpenGL support is pretty poor.

[wendy123]

i would like to test 0.9.0 for vista but i dont know where to get it, someone plase tell where to get it.

just testing 0.8.6a will post when i have the results