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Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 17 Jul 2012 21:19

To the genius's who write the code:
I asked last year for help with Windows Extended Desktop....... and now I'm again asking.........with the all the genius's out there.....couldn't someone(s) make VLC with Windows Extended Desktop to include an idiot proof GUI checkbox as per eg: MS Power Point 'Presenter mode'?! To say it another way....my dream is to be able to have a checkbox that when checked will make the Video only go to ones Projector while leaving the Video Controls behind on the Primary......and auto set the resolution as per ones Windows Graphics Video Card settings!? Pretty Please

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 30 Jun 2013 19:48

Dear Genius's Its a Year Later, and 2 years since I made my request....................... Can't this be done? Anyone doing Projector 'Presentations' would LOVE this
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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 02 Dec 2013 07:35

I could not find the info in the wiki or forum.
I followed the advice at
http://www.inlet.co.nz/tutorials/micros ... in-windows
It worked fine on a Windows Vista laptop connected to a projector using VLC 1.1.11 and DirectX
However if I upgrade to VLC 2.1.10 no setting gives me an option to "Disply device" other than "Default".
So I went back to VLC 1.1.7
The only snag is that the FullScreen is often not optimized when I start a wide screen video clip causing me to have to hit "F" twice.

Is there anyone who understand the dual screen usage better and can document it in the wiki?

Thanks

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 02 Dec 2013 18:32

A few years ago I found instructions somewhere........but the nuisance was, if I wanted to use it at home on my Laptop screen, the I had to to manually change the settings back..........and then, to go out and do a 'show' manually back and forth........... grrrr

That's why I'm still asking for this 'boon'

I have VJ software that can handle this task GREAT....but that software with my Dual Core 2.2 and dedicated Video Card and only handle Mp4's well
Anything 'heavier' eg an AVI or MOV it can Choke :-(

So I'd still LOVE it if some genius who writes this code could do this

Pretty Please :-)))))))))))

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 02 Dec 2013 19:12

I see genius JordanN did develop a front end for VLC at sourceforge.net/projects/vlc-show
and though it is old, it still seems to get positive reviews.
Try it and tell me...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc-show/

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 02 Dec 2013 22:46

Hi F
Thanks for your mutual interest! Alas the "VLC Show" did not work for me on W7 using VLC 1.1.9 nor the newest version :-(((( I kept getting 'error' messages that I could 'bypass', but to no avail :-((((

and WORSE
Now I can't get it to show Video using Windows Extended Desktop at ALL. I have to use Windows Clone View now :-((((((((((((((((((

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 03 Dec 2013 17:49

Oh no!
Other than "reinstall", I have no advice.

But thanks for trying VLC Show - now I won't! :-)

From my perspective, our need is so simple and common, I can not understand why we can get it....
Do we perhaps lack some understanding?

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 03 Dec 2013 17:58

There are others who said it worked for them
So try it?!

Set a System Restore Point before you do
and I would suggest installing it using WXP compatibility mode

and why there is no outcry????????????????

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 09 Dec 2013 16:07

Because noone understands what you want.

Please speak proper english without "..." "genius" and other stupidity every 2 words.
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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 09 Dec 2013 17:06

Dear Jean ???? How are you feeling today? Better hopefully? If you care to help.......please do!

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 09 Dec 2013 18:01

Still no idea what your issue is.
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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 09 Dec 2013 18:31

Hi Jean-Baptiste,

I would like to have a simple method to configure VLC as follows:
On a Windows PC with an external (dual monitor) projector connected
Run VLC on the Windows primary monitor
but when a video is played it should display on the secondary monitor (projector)
in full screen mode with no controls on that screen.

How to do it is not (clearly/understandable) documented in VLC or the wiki.
It does work sort of when using ActiveX on older Windows but even then the fullscreen resolution of the projector is not used by VLC causing part of the video to overlap to the other monitor.

Thanks
Ferdi

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 09 Dec 2013 18:35

Use VLC preferences, disable fullscreen control, disable OSD. In the advanced Qt preferences, set the fullscreen screen to 2. Restart VLC.
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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 09 Dec 2013 18:43

Hi Jean-Baptiste To repeat my earliest post

And Thank you !
And to amplify Ferdilouw

While using VLC with Windows Extended Desktop with a Projector for a Presentation to an Audience: to include a GUI checkbox as per eg: MS Power Point 'Presenter mode'?! To say it another way....my dream is to be able to have a checkbox that when checked will make the Video only go to ones Projector while leaving the Video Controls behind on the Primary Screen ( eg ones Laptop)......and auto set the resolution as per ones Windows Graphics Video Card settings!? Pretty Please.

Thanks again :-)

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 09 Dec 2013 18:58

Thanks Jean.

I understand that Preferences -> Interface -> "Show controls in full screen mode" should be un-selected. (Is it related to the "Embedded video" setting?)
I see it can also be done by the keyboard shortcut "Show controller in fullscreen" (hotkey is i)

However I can't find the "advanced Qt preferences". How do I learn about that?
Sorry, but I'm totally lost and don't know what Qt means in this context.

Thanks
F

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 09 Dec 2013 20:06

Hi Jean- Baptiste
I was able to locate "QT" ( F....In Preferences, on the Bottom Left "Show Settings", you need to click ALL .....then "Interface\Main Interfaces\Qt")

And I did set "Define which Screen Fullscreen Goes to "2" to no Avail ! ( My Projector is number 2 in my Graphics Properties )

I'm getting Audio with NO Video at all !
I have the Control Window visible on my Laptop, but my Projector just has my blank Wallpaper

I did everything else
"disable fullscreen control, disable OSD. In the advanced Qt preferences, set the fullscreen screen to 2. Restart VLC."



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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 09 Dec 2013 20:59

OK, I discovered that Qt has nothing to do with QuickTime.
I changed my main interface from Default to Qt and activated the extra qt4 interface. Restarted.
Spent an hour looking but
I still can't find the "advanced Qt preferences" or a place to select "Define which Screen Fullscreen Goes to"?

Running VLC 2.1.0 and 2.1.1
Win 7
Even the DirectX gives me no choice other than the Default display.

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 09 Dec 2013 22:01

Hi F
Call me if you wish I can't see some of the stuff you're referring to,,,,,but If you re-read my last letter
You'll find the QT settings

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 09 Dec 2013 23:11

Thanks for the call Matt. You said that I should go
Preferences -> Interface -> Main interface -> Qt, and then look on the right for "Define which screen fullscreen goes".
I played with that setting from -2, -1, 0, 1, and 2, but the fullscreen video always goes to the monitor designated by Windows 7 as the "main display" (i.e. the display with the Start button). There seems to be no control from VLC over that.

I can then bounce the video to the other display with Windows' hotkey Shift_WindowKey_Right or Shift_WindowKey_Left, but then it is not set for the right resolution - (same problem I have with DirectX on Windows Vista).

Jean-Baptiste, are we missing something else?

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 09 Dec 2013 23:31

PS I even tired the link from NZ you posted on 12/1,2 and I didn't have the option to select an external Display

Meanwhile
With a Blueray File on my Netbook my CPU goes nuts and the Video Stutters
Whereas
Ironically WMP has no CPU issues at all with the same Blueray File ?

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby ferdilouw » 23 Mar 2014 23:46

Hi Matt!

It seems the bug with DirectX has been fixed in 2.1.3 Rincewind.
So I can upgrade from v. 1.1.7 where it used to work.
However, the problem of getting the videos full screen on the projector seems to be slightly worse with 2.1.3 than 1.1.7:
In 1.1.7 I could just hit F twice to have the video resized to full screen;
now it seems for some HD video formats I need to hit F (to get the framed window), then full screen that window by clicking on the square on the right-top of the frame, and only then hit F for the 2nd time.
Today's test was done on Windows 7.

It is still not what I really want, but works mostly.
You can give it a try, and tell me.

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Re: Windows Extended Desktop

Postby MattMiller » 24 Mar 2014 15:41

Thanks :-)) But thats nuts ! If I have to find that tiny icon for Full Screen then it defeats the purpose! Plus ...ironically......I was dealing with a Blue Ray MP4
and VlC was 'choking' on it.......whereas WMP could handle it..........soooo my current trick to deal with that is........I pre- position WMP full screen onto the Projector......then Minimize it! So I have my nice Windows 'background' up in extended Desktop! Then whens its time to play a Video.......as WMP is my default.....I just click on the file on my laptop, and it PLAYS full screen on the Projector!


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