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can not open my VLC using it on vista

Postby ww333 » 19 Nov 2006 23:31

When I try to open the VLC 0.85 it starts and close giving a dos window saying 00000291 rc interface
remote control interface initiated

and then it hangs up......can someone help please because it is affecting other media progrms I have, how either to remove it completly or re install it and get it to work.

I am using windows vista Build 5728

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 23 Nov 2006 20:52

@ww333: I don't have this issue.

So basically:
0.8.6 flips back from Aero to Classic interface with all the modes except OpenGL.
0.9.0 works with OpenGL but, slow. DirectX and Direct3D output are not working.
NVidia drivers seems to behave better than ATI's.

Great. Please go on.
Btw, the team is also interested in latest 0.8.6-test2a tests with Vista, latest graphic drivers, output modules : GDI, DirectX, Direct3D and OpenGL ( a bit less OpenGL)
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Postby themutt » 24 Nov 2006 17:41

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Time of this report: 11/24/2006, 11:28:03 Machine name: HELLIE-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M. System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M. BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+, ~2.2GHz Memory: 1022MB RAM Page File: 902MB used, 1397MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode Card name: RADEON X700 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: RADEON X700 PRO AGP (0x5E4B)
VLC test - trunk-20061122-1332 -
OGM playback -
D3D video output (default - Falshing colors, Sound synced with time, Aero enabled
DirectX video output - Stable video play, no lag over time. Sound kept up. Resising and Full screen on multi monitor display worked fine on both.
ASCII ART output - Played fine sound in sync fun :)
OPEN GL - Relativly smooth video at 100% size. Video came to a crawl running and resises and in full screen. Returning to 100% video caught up and resumed normal play.
Windows GDI ouput - Stable Aero stayed enabled, Vdieo played smothly in any resize. Sound kept sync. Full screen on both monitors worked nicely.

Personal IMO - Windows GDI and DirectX had the best output and allowed swappign audio and video tracka long with subtitles without error.

Other tested formates : AVI (DIvx 3.11, 5)(Xvid), MP4, MVK (x264 @ 1280x720) - same results - Stable play for all tested formates using DirectX and Window GUI ooutputs

trunk-20061124-0001/ - No options in the menu appear revetred to runk-20061122-1332.

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Postby antini » 25 Nov 2006 22:45

Vista Version: Vista Ultimate x86 RTM
VLC Version: 0.8.5
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1300
Graphics Driver: Ones installed by Vista

This is an upgrade from XP.

EDIT: opengl works, directx messes up the Window display a bit.

opengl: I only tried WMV (fine) and AVI (a bit jerky)

Video and audio seem to work fine, but the first time it ran it knocked the system from Aero to Basic I believe. The taskbar on the bottom displayed wrong and there was a message that Explorer hung, and asked to wait or close it (the new 3 choice menu in Vista when something hangs). I didn't press anything a few seconds later it fixed itself.

Are the trunk or branch builds better for Vista testing? Let me know if theres anything I can do to help.

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Postby FnF » 26 Nov 2006 10:33

@ww333: I don't have this issue.

So basically:
0.8.6 flips back from Aero to Classic interface with all the modes except OpenGL.
0.9.0 works with OpenGL but, slow. DirectX and Direct3D output are not working.
NVidia drivers seems to behave better than ATI's.

Great. Please go on.
Btw, the team is also interested in 0.8.6-test2 tests with Vista, latest graphic drivers, output modules : GDI, DirectX, Direct3D and OpenGL ( a bit less OpenGL)
0.8.6 test2 doesn't work properly on Vista, some issues with opening files here. test2a doesn't make a difference too. OpenGL works, but bad image quality. And DirectX/D3D aren't so great, mostly bad IQ.

But how about Enhanced V Renderer (Enhanced Video Renderer), which is the new renderer in Vista? A Beta from Media Player Classic already supports it, and it has a very nice image quality and performance. Maybe it's an idea to implement this in 0.8.6 or a 0.9.0 build? There is some information about this at Microsoft's site.
And the 0.9.0 builds are still having the dark video bug.

I hope I put something in here where you guys can do something with :)

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Postby FFWD » 29 Nov 2006 10:45

@ww333: I don't have this issue.

So basically:
0.8.6 flips back from Aero to Classic interface with all the modes except OpenGL.
0.9.0 works with OpenGL but, slow. DirectX and Direct3D output are not working.
NVidia drivers seems to behave better than ATI's.

Great. Please go on.
Btw, the team is also interested in 0.8.6-test2 tests with Vista, latest graphic drivers, output modules : GDI, DirectX, Direct3D and OpenGL ( a bit less OpenGL)
0.8.6 test2 doesn't work properly on Vista, some issues with opening files here. test2a doesn't make a difference too. OpenGL works, but bad image quality. And DirectX/D3D aren't so great, mostly bad IQ.

But how about Enhanced V Renderer (Enhanced Video Renderer), which is the new renderer in Vista? A Beta from Media Player Classic already supports it, and it has a very nice image quality and performance. Maybe it's an idea to implement this in 0.8.6 or a 0.9.0 build? There is some information about this at Microsoft's site.
And the 0.9.0 builds are still having the dark video bug.

I hope I put something in here where you guys can do something with :)
I already PM'ed j-b, asking if Vista's Enhanced Video Renderer (EVR) could be supported as default Video Output Module for Vista users.

Got no reply though...

Some basic info about EVR (slide 10) :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... 4_WH06.ppt

MSDN :
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms694916.aspx

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 Nov 2006 11:22

Sorry, I have not a lot of time. And great! you posted that here, which is more apropriate!

However the message has been transmitted but it needs some development, and takes time. What is sure is that 0.8.6 will stay in that shape. :oops:

We will see for 0.9.0.

Go on the testing, thanks.
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Postby FnF » 29 Nov 2006 17:11

Sorry, I have not a lot of time. And great! you posted that here, which is more apropriate!

However the message has been transmitted but it needs some development, and takes time. What is sure is that 0.8.6 will stay in that shape. :oops:

We will see for 0.9.0.

Go on the testing, thanks.
When AVR is in some beta build, can you post it here? Since I don't think many people know when it's in a build or not.

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Postby Exoskeletor » 02 Dec 2006 01:20

guys vew version 0.8.6rc is working great on vista. fast without returtning to vista basic every time
Vista rtm x86
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1800XL
Graphics Driver: Catalyst for vista 32bit RC2

For the greek users: go to Preferences, Input/Codecs, Other codecs, Subtitles and select ISO-8859-7

0.9 (trunk-20061130-0000) crashes
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Re: Looking for Vista Beta Testers

Postby bambi851 » 02 Dec 2006 01:47

Vista version, BUild 6000
VLC version, vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061201-0001-win32
Graphic Card model, Nvidia 6600GT
Graphic Driver version, 96.85_forceware_winvista_x86_international_whql(4)

Modules tested and results.
First time running, go to settings and nothing is listed (i.e. go to Directx output and no options are listed)
Further running the program crashes on startup with standard VLC has stopped working window.

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Postby rayfoo » 02 Dec 2006 13:27

Vista Ultimate, Build 6.0.6000
VLC version, vlc-0.8.6-rc1

Results: Doesnt go into Vista classic / basic mode but video is in black and white

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Postby Quovodis » 02 Dec 2006 15:15

thanks for your help guys;

however we suspect that some vista drivers are a bit buggy, therefore for those who have some problems watching video using the direct3d module, could you try turning off 'hardware YUV to RGB conversion' on the directx advanced preference panel and report back please.

please focus your tests on 0.8.6-rc1 at this point in time.

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Postby rayfoo » 02 Dec 2006 15:37

updated my nvidia drivers to v7.15.10.9734 geforce 7600gs , playing fine now with color and with hardware yuv to rgb conversion on
thanks for your help guys;

however we suspect that some vista drivers are a bit buggy, therefore for those who have some problems watching video using the direct3d module, could you try turning off 'hardware YUV to RGB conversion' on the directx advanced preference panel and report back please.

please focus your tests on 0.8.6-rc1 at this point in time.

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RE: VLC creates MPEG2 PS which doesn't seek on Media Player.

Postby ryukrem » 02 Dec 2006 19:13

This is not a playback report but an update to the MPEG2 TS to PS conversion issue.

Vista version: Vista Ultimate RTM build 6000
Graphic Card model: ATI Radeon 1950XTX
Graphic Driver version: 8.29.100.0 (inbox)

VLC version: 0.8.5
TS to PS conversion works fine but Media Player doesn't seek.

VLC version: vlc-0.8.6-rc1-20061201-0330
TS to PS conversion works fine and Media Player seeks fine.

VLC version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061202-0158
Crashes as soon as TS to PS conversion starts.

Looks like the SCR issue in 0.8.5 is fixed in 0.8.6 RC1.
0.9.0 is totally unstable and crashes right away.

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Postby FFWD » 03 Dec 2006 15:24

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Time of this report: 12/3/2006, 14:54:46 Machine name: FFWD-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205) Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: Shuttle Inc System Model: SB81V10 BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Memory: 1022MB RAM Page File: 1247MB used, 1053MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce 6600 GT Driver Version: 7.15.0010.9734 (English) Driver Date/Size: 11/21/2006 12:05:00, 3055616 bytes
vlc-0.8.6-rc1
GDI : Windows Aero Glass works, no full screen right-click context menu :?
DirectX : Switched to Windows Vista Basic :(
Direct3D 'hardware YUV to RGB conversion' ON : Windows Aero Glass works :)
Direct3D 'hardware YUV to RGB conversion' OFF : Windows Aero Glass works, video is purple-ish :(
OpenGL : Windows Aero Glass works :)

vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061203-0001
"VLC has stopped working" error when opening a file. Can't change or see preferences. :(

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Postby Zwan » 05 Dec 2006 17:21

OS Name: Microsoft® Windows Vista Business 64bit
OS Version: 6.0.6000 N/A Build 6000

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Original Install Date: 5/12/2006, 10:05:44 PM System Boot Time: 6/12/2006, 2:13:42 AM System Manufacturer: NVIDIA System Model: AWRDACPI System Type: x64-based PC Processor(s): 1 Processor(s) Installed. [01]: AMD64 Family 15 Model 39 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~2880 Mhz BIOS Version: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG, 14/11/2005 Total Physical Memory: 2,046 MB Available Physical Memory: 1,278 MB Page File: Max Size: 4,315 MB Page File: Available: 3,482 MB Page File: In Use: 833 MB Card name: Radeon X1800 XT Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: GeForce 6600 GT Driver Version: 8.31.100.0 Driver Date/Size: 24/10/2006
vlc-0.8.6-rc1-20061205-0330

DirectX 3D video output: Video is only a white screen, aero works.

hardware YUV to RGB conversion turned off: Video is only a black screen, aero works.

DirectX video output: Aero stops working, video doesnt work(u see a grey screen) until you stop and play it again (assuming it only works after aero is dead, as any other video file work once it was.)

OpenGL video output: Aero works, Video works, but insanely slow.

vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061203-0001

exe wont even run "stopped working"

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Postby Particle » 12 Dec 2006 21:25

vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061212-0002-win32
Each test was with a video of each type: WMV9 (.wmv), XVID (.mkv), X264 (.mkv), and MPEG-1 (.mpg).

DirectX video output: crash on startup (all)
No other output modules listed.

vlc-0.8.6-win32
Color ASCII art video output: No Problems (all; quite interesting heh)
DirectX 3D video output: White Output (all)
DirectX 3D video output (HW color conversion disabled): One color across entire video (changes constantly with the video) due to the pattern of colors changing with the video's scenes changing and changing slightly with movement, I suspect that the entire thing is just one decoded pixel being errantly copied across the entire video--guessing the top left pixel of the video judging by the color (all)
DirectX video output: Playback Normal, Aero dies while playing, until player is restarted the overlay doesn't follow the VLC player box when moved around on the screen after changing to this module from DirectX 3D (all)
OpenGL video output: No Problems (low framerate on large videos [my x264 sample] or in fullscreen [ATI's fault--current drivers have no hardware OpenGL support])
Windows GDI video output: Playback Normal, output grainy when resized, single click on video makes it go full screen while all other modules supporting full screen require a double click (all)




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Time of this report: 12/12/2006, 13:59:29 Machine name: TIM Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 5744) (5744.vista_rtm_edw.061003-1945) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: GBT___ System Model: GBTUACPI BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.3GHz Memory: 4094MB RAM Page File: 1998MB used, 1952MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.5744.16384 32bit Unicode

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Card name: Radeon X1900 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: Radeon X1900 Series (0x7249) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7249&SUBSYS_0B121002&REV_00 Display Memory: 2043 MB Dedicated Memory: 251 MB Shared Memory: 1791 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor Driver Name: atiumdag,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.dat,atitmm64.dll Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0449 (English) DDI Version: 9Ex Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 10/24/2006 19:40:18, 2493952 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/a DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled

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Description: Speakers (2- Sound Blaster Audigy) Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_100A1102&REV_00 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: P1764.sys Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0608 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: n/a Date and Size: 3/17/2006 15:15:48, 1625088 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: CREATIVE HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0x0 Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0 Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Postby themutt » 13 Dec 2006 12:08

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------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 12/13/2006, 05:49:34 Machine name: HELLIE-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M. System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M. BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+, ~2.2GHz Memory: 1022MB RAM Page File: 966MB used, 1333MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: RADEON X700 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: RADEON X700 PRO AGP (0x5E4B) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5E4B&SUBSYS_23121002&REV_00 Display Memory: 348 MB Dedicated Memory: 254 MB Shared Memory: 94 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0449 (English) DDI Version: 9Ex Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 10/24/2006 20:40:18, 2493952 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes
DirectX 3d output (OGM)- Odd behavior Screen is all black aero still enabled only audio playback. skipping ahead in the files the screen remains black however video does start playing at certain keyframes. Video will play for 3-5 seconds go black for 3-5 seconds and resume. Video then seems to remain black.... singel clicking while in full screen seems to promt the video to resume playing.

DirectX 3D video output (HW color conversion disabled) (OGM): Same issue as before Flashing colors no video. Advanced in video hit keyframe video resumed play for 2-4 seconds and resumed flashing colors. Again singel click in full screen seems to reactivate video playback momentarily.

DirectX (aero disables)- No longer working with this build It was working on previous builds however video was zoomed on the top right corner cutton off 75% of the screen

OpenGL: Playback works decent windowed. not horribly choppy yes not smooth, pixel smoothing looks nice and very nice video quality. Full screen has 4-5 fps and is unplayable however looks nice

Windows GDI video output: Works fine no lag issue no resize smoothing rendering videos blockyer then they need to be.

I am happy that D3D vido seems to be moving along nicely.

Note

D3D seems to play AVi xvid, mp4, and mvk files only show the first frame of then flashign colors. OGMs update video for couple second integers. Not sure if thats any help but I was surprised to see the ogm files restarting video play where as the other formats were not.

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Postby Particle » 13 Dec 2006 22:22

I've got the same results with ATI's newly released driver revision (12/13/06).

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 14 Dec 2006 01:23

Once again, thanks for the reports.

Please focus on 0.8.6 and 0.9.0-svn under Vista Final with latest graphic drivers.
I may write a wiki piece for Vista Users and 0.8.6 to use the best preferences, but I don't know yet what is the best.
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0.8.6 and ATI x1300

Postby j_h_o » 15 Dec 2006 05:35

I've got the same results with ATI's newly released driver revision (12/13/06).
Latest ATI driver also fails on x1300 with Vista RTM Enterprise with 0.8.6 DirectX 3D video output.

With hardware YUV -> RGB conversion turned off, I get a nice colour show.

With hardware YUV-RGB enabled, I get white screen with sound.

DirectX video output disables Aero, but does not full screen (leaves it same size with black background.

Windows GDI fallback works fullscreen, but not on secondary screens. (As expected.)

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Postby j_h_o » 15 Dec 2006 05:42

Once again, thanks for the reports.

Please focus on 0.8.6 and 0.9.0-svn under Vista Final with latest graphic drivers.
I may write a wiki piece for Vista Users and 0.8.6 to use the best preferences, but I don't know yet what is the best.
Trunk 0.9.0 20061215-0000 on Vista x86 Enterprise with ATI x1300 with latest (December 2006) ATI drivers.

vlc.exe faults, application error on attempted playback
Event ID 1000, faulting module libvlc.dll
Exception code 0xc000000fd, fault offset 0x000090377.

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Postby Twiin » 16 Dec 2006 18:22

trunk-20061216-0001 on Vista x86 Final, GeForce 7900GT on driver ver 7.15.10.9735.

VLC crashes on prpgram execution.

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Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: vlc.exe Application Version: 0.9.0.0 Application Timestamp: 45832d1e Fault Module Name: libvlc.dll Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 45832d1e Exception Code: c00000fd Exception Offset: 00090556 OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1 Locale ID: 4105 Additional Information 1: d287 Additional Information 2: 7801e99a9b3dc4ab3ed0c6cd04cae05d Additional Information 3: 5480 Additional Information 4: db8a5dba956ae168c94726cc72693b50

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vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061230-0001-win32

Postby Geheee » 30 Dec 2006 19:41

Hi,

I trying to run vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061230-0001-win32 under

Vista x64 Ultimate Final.

I have a Nvidia 6600GT PCI-E card using driver version 7.15.10.9746

Upon loading VLC I get the following error message

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c:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC>vlc VLC media player 0.9.0-svn-20061230-0001 Grishenko [00000303] access_file access error: cannot open file C:\Users\George\AppData\Ro aming\vlc\ml.xsp (No such file or directory) [00000302] main input error: open of `file/xspf-open://C:\Users\George\AppData\R oaming\vlc\ml.xsp' failed: could not create access
However the GUI loads up, when I try to open a video file however the program crashes immediately with "vlc.exe has stopped working"

If I can be of any further help please let me know, would be happy to provide further feedback and testing!

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Postby simcen » 30 Dec 2006 22:28

Same problem with mine.
First time opening vlc, it worked "fine". But opening a media file was never successful.

Windows Vista Final Business
vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061230-0001-win32
ATI Radeon X800 XL (Driver 8.31.100.321, downloaded by Windows Update).

Go on vlc team :)
Regards,
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