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Looking for Vista Beta Testers

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 12 Oct 2006 02:33

Hi !
If you are geeks and you are using Windows Vista RC2 (build 5774 and over) and with Aeroglass activated,
we are very interested in the feedback you could provide us on VLC 0.9.0

Be careful, VLC 0.9.0 is not corectly functionnal, and is in a very alpha stage, but we need to have people to or three functions.

HowTo Help
In your Windows Vista, download in this directory http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win32/ the latest trunk-200610**-000.zip or .exe
Maybe the .zip would be better since it will not uninstall your other VLC version.

Reset your preferences.
Launch VLC.

In the preferences, go check advanced, and go in video and change the output modules. We would be interested in OpenGL, DirectX but specially Direct3D modules tests.
Play some files.

Could you just answer here your results:
Vista version,
VLC version,
Graphic Card model,
Graphic Driver version,
Modules tested and results.

Please do use this thread just to give your results.

Thanks
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My testing

Postby Einsteinjr » 13 Oct 2006 05:26

Vista Version: Build 5744
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061013-0000-win32
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9800 XT
Graphics Driver Version: 8.29.100.0 (latest one as of today)
Modules Tested:

OpenGL: All files I tested played (AVI, WMV, and MPG), but played very poorly (lots of stutter, etc). When using this module, it did not revert back to the normal, non-aero version of windows.

DirectX: All files played fine, but like previous versions, it goes into "normal GUI" mode before it plays anything

Direct3D: VLC technically played all the videos without getting rid of Aero, but there was very abstract looking colors on the video. Kinda reminded me of the Vista screen saver "Aurora" The colors change as you move through the video, presumably because the output changes on the video.

Keep up the good work. I look forward to having VLC player work flawlessly with Vista.

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Postby dolled » 13 Oct 2006 15:40

Could you just answer here your results:
Vista version: RC2, build 5744
VLC version: 0.9.0-svn-20061010-1313
Graphic Card model: Geforce 7600 GT
Graphic Driver version: 9.6.3.3 (driver date:26.08.2006)
Modules tested and results:

Only OpenGL works "fine". But it does not cover the whole screen. The taskbar has to be in Autohide-modus.... If not you'll see the taskbar.

Other than that the OpenGL works fine.

DirectX and 3D shows only black&white.....

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 13 Oct 2006 22:44

Well, thanks, that is exactly the kind of information I want :lol:

If you could see if there are some special error messages in the messages Windows, and paste them to paste.videolan.org, that would be great...
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Postby RoundSparrow » 15 Oct 2006 20:15

Windows Vista Ultimate RC2.
Acer Aspire 5672WLMi laptop
ATI Mobility Radeon X1400

I have dual screen:
built-in 15" lcd at 1280x800 (primary)
external 1680x1050 (desktop extended)

On VLC 0.85 it plays fine until I introduce the second screen... if I move VLC winodw over to second screen and full screen it it blue screens Vista. The crash is in the Microsoft-provided atikmdag driver.

I installed the ATI website drivers mentioned for "vista RC1" and it works slighty better. On the second screen when I take VLC full screen it shows major green distortion to the picture... and after returning to Windows it causes a crash in atikmdag.

I clearly fault ATI for these crashes, their driver clearly has some issues here.

==============

Tried VLC 0.90 2006-10-14 built. Still using the ATI "vista RC1" drivers. When I play on my MAIN screen on first start it shows nothing but some color changes (solid box in the main video window).

With "DirectX 3D" all I get is a slideshow "rectangle block" of changing colors, no recognizable video output. Works the same on either screen, windowed or full screen.

With "DirectX" Vista complains about color changes... and it works... but seems to ignore resize requests! The main window of VLC resizes but the playing video does not.

With "OpenGL video output" all works fine on either screen in regard to resize and full screen. However, IT IS HORRIBLY SLOW and I get about 5fps and1 cpu CORE is maxed out.

With "Windows GDI" the main screen works fine, good performance. However, the second screen won't show video at all, normal window or maximized.

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Postby iced » 22 Oct 2006 18:47

Vista version, 5744
VLC version, 20060820-0001
Graphic Card model, xfx 7800 gt
Graphic Driver version, 9.6.85

I don't know how to test 'moduals'

ok I was getting ticked VLC was screwing up aero so I searched on the forums for help.. I downlowded the latest in the link above and clicked on the movie.iso and was happy to see the movie was at the main menu and aero was still on.. i went to fill in this info here and while i went to control panel and went to device manager to look at my vid card dirver version vlc crashed...

ok I just tried watching a movie, the video is real dark making it really hard to see
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Postby miejas » 23 Oct 2006 15:04

Vista Version: RC2 (Build 5744)
VLC Version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061019-0000-win32
Graphics Card: ATi Radeon X1600 Pro
Graphics Driver Version: The one that comes with Vista (7.14.10.830)

OpenGL: Aero theme remains, but video runs at 10 fps (sound is good, tho).

DirectX: No Aero, playback flawless

Direct3D, Standard: Aero theme remains, image is 1 color, changes sometimes from black to blue or grey or whatever... like with Einsteinjr. Sound still there.

Windows GDI: Works almost like it should. Lots of visible pixels on fullscreen. Not smooth like in 0.8.5..


Videos start playing from the beginning whenever you try to seek using the "slider" on the bottom. CTRL+arrow acts inpredictable: sometimes it skips 1 minute, sometimes it's 5...
No error messages.

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Postby FFWD » 23 Oct 2006 19:39

Vista version: Ultimate x86 RC2 build 5744
VLC version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061021-0001-win32
Graphic Card model: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT PCI-E
Graphic Driver version: ForceWare 96.85


* First observation : The installer uses NSIS 2.19-1.

From the NSIS website : "NSIS 2.21 is released. This release features support for Windows Vista, faster
lzma compression, new macros for easy Windows version comparisons and includes
the usual collection of new features, bug fixes, improvements and translation
updates."


* Second observation : I have a external AC3/DTS receiver (Logitech Z-5500). A/52 over S/PDIF : sound stutters when Direct X output is used, to a lesser extend with Win32 waveOut.

* Third observation : VLC crashes a lot :-/

Modules tested and results:

OpenGL: Aero theme: OK, video OK

DirectX: Vista switches to Aero Basic, video OK

Direct3D: Aero theme: OK, video is very dark (almost black)

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Postby wlkrjn » 26 Oct 2006 06:27

Hi
I have vista rc2 ultimate x64 version...
I downloaded vlc-0.8.6-test1-20061026-0330 and installed the zip version by extraction of 7zip file into desktop folder. It does not even run!
I have tried compatibilty mode and still nothing...

Earlier versions of vlc do run but force a reset to vista basic.

I have an o/c d805 and ati radeon xt1900gt

I don't think that it likes 64 bit vista

PS: could *someone* please give me some idea on how to tune transponder channels for my dvb-t card (on another machine, not in vista :) in either linux (fc5 or 6) or xppro or w2k3

cheers
waaaaarggggghhhh

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 27 Oct 2006 01:49

* Third observation : VLC crashes a lot :-/
Yes. Sorry, 0.9.0 is in early development. To use it every day, use 0.8.6-test1 :D
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Postby Cygon » 31 Oct 2006 20:48

I'm using VLC 0.9.0-svn-20061031-0000 on Windows Vista RC2 x86 Build 5744.
My graphics card is a GeForce 6800 running the nVidia driver packaged with Windows Vista.

- The picture is unnaturally dark. I have used the image adjust filter to adjust gamma to 2.5 which somewhat normalizes the image. If I pause playback, the image stops, but keeps getting brighter for about half a second until it is almost white.

- Image quality is really bad. Looks almost as if the image was on-the-fly encoded to mpeg2 and then decoded again. The are quite noticeable block artifacts, similar to when you encode a jpeg at very high compression ratio

- If the administrator popup comes up whilst a video is playing, VLC crashes. Probably this is due to the D3D device being lost because the administrator mode popup reinitializes the graphics device (probably so that no malicious application can make the user believe he's clicking on something else but the administrator mode popup).

- (minor) the audio slider uses a progress bar. Vista tries to provide smooth progress bars, so if I increase the volume, the progress bar will slow creep after the mouse cursor, whereas it will update synchronously when I decrease the volume. The audio slider is also constantly flashing due to Vista's animated progress bars ;)

-Markus-

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VLC creates MPEG2 PS which doesn't seek on Media Player.

Postby ryukrem » 03 Nov 2006 09:26

Vista version: Vista Ultimate RC2 build 5744
VLC version: vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061102-0001
Graphic Card model: ATI Radeon 1950XTX
Graphic Driver version: 8.29.100.0
Modules tested and results:

Stream output from MPEG2 TS to MPEG2 PS creates MPEG2 files which are not fully compatible with Vista inbox MPEG2 demultiplexer. Because of this imcompatibility, file seek doesn't work.

I have converted some MPEG2 TS files captured from HDV camcorder. All MPEG2 PS files VLC converted play fine on Media Player and GraphEdt but seek button is completely disabled.

After comparing VLC converted MPEG2 PS files and other MPEG2 files, I found the cause of the problem.

It looks like the problem is in the last packet of the MPEG2 PS file VLC created. The last SCR (System Clock Reference) in the last packet appears to have relatively longer clock than it is specified in MPEG2 spec. The MPEG2 spec says it should be less than 700ms interval that SCR should appears but VLC creates the last SCR greater than 700ms. In most cases VLC creates the last packet but around 1000ms SCR. This seems to make Vista MPEG2 demultiplexer to think that it is not MPEG2 compliant and rejects the connection, therefor falling back to MPEG2 Splitter which unfortunately doesn't support file seek.

Is there a setting in VLC to put more SCRs?

Thanks

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Postby olavjunior » 10 Nov 2006 13:56

I'm running build 5840
on ati radeon 9700, with ati catalyst center - version 2.0.2488.36465
driver version is 8.31.100.0
vlc version - 0.9.0. -svn-20061108-0001

Tried to play a vob smple-file. It wouldn't play it at all.

Then I tryed a mounted dvd. Played ok, but it flickers in black. The aero was fine thogh.
With openGL it doesn't play smoothly at all. (aero is fine)
With directX aero dissapears. Picture is fine.
With directX 3D, I can't get movie o play. Gets the sound tough.

Didn't have any avi's to test, sorry..

And by the way - the play-button doesn't work..

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Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 10 Nov 2006 16:30

Thanks everyone for the feedback. We are reading this carefully.
Go on like this. 8) 8)

Thanks :wink:
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Postby Calculon » 11 Nov 2006 11:21

Vista build 6000
VLC version 0.9.0-svn-20061108-0001
Nvidia Geforce 7900GT
Forceware Vista RC2 Beta Driver

I've tried every module, but none of them work. I go to quick open, try to open any type of video file, but nothing plays. After opening the file, it just stays on the player screen with no video window or time bar.

Using 0.8.5 results in a garbled screen when I try to open videos.

Edit: Okay I just tried an earlier build with better results (9-26). Videos will play in this build :)

DirectX causes my screen to go garbled. Basically I have to reset

DirectX 3d works within Aero, but the video is very dark. If I try to adjust the brightness the video stops with the audio still going.

OpenGL works perfectly within Aero.

I'm pretty sure the DirectX problem is with Nvidia's driver, and not VLC. The screen goes garbled if I try to come back from sleep.

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Postby webstar » 12 Nov 2006 18:14

Vista version : 6000 x86
Video : NVIDIA 7800GT
Video driver : Forceware Release 95 - Version 96.85 - WHQL

Videolan 20061108-0001-win32

VLC is working but like said Calculon video is really very dark

I'm also trying FREE video with success and the pictures are also very dark

(Perhaps video driver program - no freeze for me ;-))

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Postby FnF » 12 Nov 2006 18:28

Vista version : 6000 x86 *RTM*
Video : NVIDIA 6800 GS
Video driver : Forceware Release 95 - Version 96.85 - WHQL

I did a lot of testing with several builds from the 0.9.0 release, vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061029-0001-win32.exe is the lastest build which can open video files here, all later builds fail to open video files (I haven;t tested audio files), it just seems that VLC isn't doing anything when I want to open a file.

What can be concluded:
0.9.0 doesn't have the problem with Aero Full going back to Aero Basic, what the 0.8.6 releases (Lastest nighty as well) have.
Also, the video seems a bit dark, which is already said by few people. I have no idea why files doesn't want to load on builds later then vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061029-0001-win32.exe, other people are having the same problem, so we can't test anything with that releases, nor the dark video bug. As far as the rest, vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061029-0001-win32.exe seems to work fine at Vista RTM x86.

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Postby Alex2003 » 14 Nov 2006 00:35

Im running Vista build 6000
Tried running vlc trunk-20061114-0001
Got Radeon X800 GTO AGP
Running catalyst for vista drivers version 8.31.100.0

The sound works fine but i dont see the video just a screen with blinking colors with the default option.
Oh and the aero skin works fine :P
With DirectX it works find except the aero skin...
With DirectX 3D it shows the blinking colors and the skin works.
with OpenGL it works ok but the video is abit slow and the aero skin works.

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Postby Aztek » 14 Nov 2006 19:33

http://paste.videolan.org/804

crashes like that every time i want to "close" it

btw im using RC1 from microsoft.com

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Postby Alex2003 » 15 Nov 2006 17:39

Testing another version this time vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061115-1056-win32

Im running Vista build 6000
Got Radeon X800 GTO AGP
Running catalyst for vista drivers version 8.31.100.0

OpenGL - its working almost ok in a small screen but realy slow in a full screnn mode.
DirectX - the sound works but everything else not.the skin is changed to basic and instead of a video i see a green box and thats it.
DirectX 3D- skin and sound ok but i see arange of blinking colors and thats it.

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Postby Oldsmobile_Mike » 18 Nov 2006 05:05

Video card: ATI Radeon 9600SE
Driver: 8.31.100-061024a-037962C-ATI (this was the latest one available from the ATI site as of two days ago)
Vista Build: 6000
VLC Build: 0.9.0-svn-20061117-0001

Got much the same results as several other posts I saw...

DirectX 3D: sound only, no video except for occasionally flashing colors

OpenGL: video was jerky & slow, but no pixelization

GDI: Video playback was smooth, except there was a lot of pixelization (especially visible on high contrast areas like white titles on a black background)

In all cases, the Vista Aero interface remained visible, unlike in VLC 0.8.6, which would kick back to the old-style interface.

DirectX: Went out of the Aero interface back to basic, but video played fine.

Keep going guys, I really want this to work right soon! =)

vlcfiend

Postby vlcfiend » 18 Nov 2006 10:05

Video card: ATI Radeon X850XT PE
Driver: 8.31.100.0
Vista Build: 6000
VLC Build: 0.9.0-svn-20061115-1056

Any later builds would not play the files and "stop working" when closed.

DirectX 3D: the video was basically a screen filled with one colour which changed while the video played

OpenGL: low-resolution video played fine in a window, but the framerate dropped drastically in full-screen and with high-resolution files

Windows GDI: played without problems but didn't smooth out pixels

DirectX: works with no problems, but it turns Aero off

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Postby Failure » 18 Nov 2006 15:30

Vista 6000 x86 Athlon XP 2800+
vlc-0.9.0-svn-20061117-0001-win32
GeForce 6600 GT
Vista x86 Forceware 96.85

DirecX: It works perfectly, except it stops Aero.

Direct3D: Is is very dark, does not affect Aero.

OpenGL: It does not affect Aero, the image qulaity is good, but at a high resolution video(1280x720) it has a bad frame rate and uses more CPU.

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Postby Colonel.Cool » 19 Nov 2006 03:11

Vista Version: Build 6000 RTM
VLC Version: trunk-20061119-0001
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9600 XT
Graphics Driver ATI RTM Drivers
Modules Tested:

OpenGL: All Files OK without aero

Direct3D: No pictures, just black screen or stranges color, but with aero

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Postby niKo92130 » 19 Nov 2006 20:36

Vista Version: Build 5744 RC2
VLC Version: trunk-20061119-0001
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
Graphics Driver ATI RTM Drivers
Modules Tested:

OpenGL:
MPEG, WMV and DivX OK with or without aero but jerky when resized

Direct3D:
No pictures, just black screen or stranges color with aero
MPEG, WMV and DivX OK without aero even if resized

Sound :
MP3/WMA : OK

Streaming :
VLC stopped when I tried to connect to web radio with m3u or pls file


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