Also part of the time indicator is not visible (part after "0:51:").
The file is an Ogg Vorbis record, located on the local hard drive.
Bug 0.8.5 - Progress slider, time indication wrong
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Bug 0.8.5 - Progress slider, time indication wrong
See picture, either the slider or the time indicator is wrong.
Also part of the time indicator is not visible (part after "0:51:").
The file is an Ogg Vorbis record, located on the local hard drive.
Also part of the time indicator is not visible (part after "0:51:").
The file is an Ogg Vorbis record, located on the local hard drive.
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The font is hard coded in the player. I don't remember which font. I believe it is one of the system fonts. But not sure this has much to do with the problem. As I have seen this font both broken and missing and the progress bar and indicator are still there.
On my system (XP) an OGG/OGM file displays time on the progress bar correctly. What you show here appears to be 98x or Me. The problem isn't the time not being displayed correctly it's the time indicators position on the progress bar that appears incorrect and probably sits at the end for an extended period of time. At the moment there is no fix for this. Perhaps with the new interface in the next revision. As j-b suggested.
On my system (XP) an OGG/OGM file displays time on the progress bar correctly. What you show here appears to be 98x or Me. The problem isn't the time not being displayed correctly it's the time indicators position on the progress bar that appears incorrect and probably sits at the end for an extended period of time. At the moment there is no fix for this. Perhaps with the new interface in the next revision. As j-b suggested.
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It is Windows XP Pro SP2.On my system (XP) an OGG/OGM file displays time on the progress bar correctly. What you show here appears to be 98x or Me. The problem isn't the time not being displayed correctly it's the time indicators position on the progress bar that appears incorrect and probably sits at the end for an extended period of time.
When the progress bar reaches the end, then the playback stops.
Not sure I understand the problem? With or without picture!See picture, either the slider or the time indicator is wrong.
Also part of the time indicator is not visible (part after "0:51:").
The file is an Ogg Vorbis record, located on the local hard drive.
1. Using VLC 0.8.5 most of the time indication problems have been resolved and this revolved around MPEG files not OGG/OGM.
2. Time estimation is based on the EOF. The length of the file is 51 seconds. What makes you think the file should play beyond this point? Have you tried another player to get a second opinion? Have you looked at Messages to see if there are errors?
3. I double checked OGG/OGM with Vorbis and using known good files it works correctly using VLC 0.8.5-final. But really I don't remember problems in this area in earlier versions.
I believe you will find that the elapsed time is correct as there has never been a problem in this area. Total time should now also be correct. as for your estimations for position of the time indicator in % this may be the area the devs feel still need work. Perhaps the next revision will resolve this.
Perhaps the next revision will resolve this.I tried another ogg file*, on another PC**. Hope the problem (slightly different than before) is obvious enough.
* - created by CDex v1.51 from a WAV file. CDex uses "Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717"
The WAV file is 3:26 long according to both VLC and Windows Media Player.
Playing the WAV in VLC shows no problems with time/progress.
** Windows 2003 again
* - created by CDex v1.51 from a WAV file. CDex uses "Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717"
The WAV file is 3:26 long according to both VLC and Windows Media Player.
Playing the WAV in VLC shows no problems with time/progress.
** Windows 2003 again
Then you have something very unusual going on. Because as I described earlier in this thread I tried OGG/OGM with Vorbis audio in both 0.8.4 and 0.8.5 and I can't see the problem. 
VLC uses the original Tobias filters and it is very unlikely that any updates will ever be available. Last changes were in 03, I think.
VLC uses the original Tobias filters and it is very unlikely that any updates will ever be available. Last changes were in 03, I think.1.) I tried two different, differently created Ogg files on two different PCs. Both had problems. Coincidence ? I will also try on my work PC tomorrow.Then you have something very unusual going on. Because as I described earlier in this thread I tried OGG/OGM with Vorbis audio in both 0.8.4 and 0.8.5 and I can't see the problem.
2.) (Tobias... )The DirectX code ? Why not directly the ogg/vorbis libraries ? Does this mean VLC ships with ancient ogg/vorbis software ?
OK, third PC (Windows XP Pro SP2), third Ogg file.
VLC is again 0.8.5
The Ogg file is downloaded from http://www.vorbis.com/music/ ("Epoq - Lepidoptera" , direct link)
According to the web page (and to WMP), the file is 05:02 long.
Also the indicator in VLC shows 05:01 right before the end.
The progress bar appears to be correct.
The song lenth in the status bar and also in the "Stream and Media Info" dialog is wrong : 04:32
I rest my case.
VLC is again 0.8.5
The Ogg file is downloaded from http://www.vorbis.com/music/ ("Epoq - Lepidoptera" , direct link)
According to the web page (and to WMP), the file is 05:02 long.
Also the indicator in VLC shows 05:01 right before the end.
The progress bar appears to be correct.
The song lenth in the status bar and also in the "Stream and Media Info" dialog is wrong : 04:32
I rest my case.
OGG/Vorbis:
After running a few tests the error does appear to be in VLC and not in the libraries. I found one that says it ends at 3:49, the music ends at 3:50 and the file ends at 4:00
MPEG 1/MPGa
A 2:50 clip will fluctuate all over the place from 1:58 to over 3:06 as it plays and ends at 2:38.
MPEG 2/MPG2a
A 2:04 clip also fluctuates fro 1:25 to 2:15 as it plays and ends at 2:14.
Your point is the timing is not accurate for some formats. My point is that this is by far better than 0.8.4 where 3hr 14min movie was reported at a little over an hour and a half. Perhaps just perhaps this may get better in the next revision. But given the lack of time code in the MPEG format and the construction of the player, I wouldn't hold my breath.
You can take this to Feature Requests or do a proper Bug reporting.
http://www.videolan.org/support/bug-reporting.html
Bug reporting
But a kind word of advise is, The devs are aware of the problem and are going to tell you the same thing I have been telling you all along. But I will be honest, I have never noticed the problem in OGG till now and I've watched allot of movies in OGM but then again I don't watch credits or check the time at the end of the movie.
After running a few tests the error does appear to be in VLC and not in the libraries. I found one that says it ends at 3:49, the music ends at 3:50 and the file ends at 4:00
MPEG 1/MPGa
A 2:50 clip will fluctuate all over the place from 1:58 to over 3:06 as it plays and ends at 2:38.
MPEG 2/MPG2a
A 2:04 clip also fluctuates fro 1:25 to 2:15 as it plays and ends at 2:14.
Your point is the timing is not accurate for some formats. My point is that this is by far better than 0.8.4 where 3hr 14min movie was reported at a little over an hour and a half. Perhaps just perhaps this may get better in the next revision. But given the lack of time code in the MPEG format and the construction of the player, I wouldn't hold my breath.
You can take this to Feature Requests or do a proper Bug reporting.
http://www.videolan.org/support/bug-reporting.html
Bug reporting
But a kind word of advise is, The devs are aware of the problem and are going to tell you the same thing I have been telling you all along. But I will be honest, I have never noticed the problem in OGG till now and I've watched allot of movies in OGM but then again I don't watch credits or check the time at the end of the movie.
Really DVD+R disks shouldn't be used for video file storage. But setting this aside a commercial DVD should now display the correct time. However MPEG 2 files (.MPEG) and MPEG 1 files (.MPG) still have some minor discrepancies.This happens to me with my DVDs in the DVD+VR format, the time is always incorrect.
VLC is not a dshow player! I was referring to the open source software libraries. The original Tobias work is still the most compatible out there and forms the basis for everything in OGG/OGM and Vorbis.(Tobias... )The DirectX code ? Why not directly the ogg/vorbis libraries ? Does this mean VLC ships with ancient ogg/vorbis software ?
After reviewing this file it is rather complete and forms a history of the problem (and I have confirmed the problem) to be referred to in a trouble report and I have tried to answer all the remaining questions. But I'm not sure I want to be the one who writes it!
So it will need to wait for a developer for review. I am sorry for misunderstanding the problem at the beginning of this post!
But after the tests the problems are a bit different than what has been previously been described even by the devs. I think you misunderstood me. DVD+VR is a "special" DVD format used by standalone DVD recorders. See:Really DVD+R disks shouldn't be used for video file storage. But setting this aside a commercial DVD should now display the correct time. However MPEG 2 files (.MPEG) and MPEG 1 files (.MPG) still have some minor discrepancies.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=164461
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