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long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 03 Apr 2016 19:10

When playing .iso files from my Seagate NAS, I am experiencing long pauses (10 to 35 seconds long). I am running on a Mac 27 5k OS X 10.11.4, 3.5 GHz Intel Core i5, 16 GB Memory. The display is a 27" built-in Retina Display (5120 x 2880) & AMD Radeon R9 M290X 2048 MB. VLC version is 2.2.2.

Activity Monitor shows very high network activity that corresponds exactly to the time between pauses and the duration of the pauses. I have tried both WIFI and wired (Ethernet) connections. The duration of the pause is about 17 seconds long on wired ethernet and 35 seconds on WIFI. The times in between pauses are the same with either wired or WIFI. In between pauses, the network data received is about 1 KB/sec. During the pauses, the data received is about 13 MB/sec. I tried playing with the Default CachIng with no effect. I reset VLC preferences with no effect.

Netflix, XFINITY & Amazon Prime streaming all work fine without pauses or pixilation.

I have a PC that is on the same wired network connection. VLC on the PC does not exhibit these pauses.

I am thinking that VLC buffering is not working right on this iMac 5k. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe

PS: I can't see how to attach files......
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 04 Apr 2016 21:34

Additional Info: There are no pauses with .iso files on local hard drives -- only on networked storage.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 05 Apr 2016 17:58

Do you know how whether the drive is mounted as AFS or SMB? Do you have the issue with non-iso files on your NAS?
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 05 Apr 2016 17:59

Do you know how whether the drive is mounted as AFS or SMB? Do you have the issue with non-iso files on your NAS?
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 05 Apr 2016 19:17

Hi and thanks for your reply. I'm not sure about the AFS or SMA. Please tell me how to determine the mounting type. Here is what the "get info" shows: afp://Seagate-40E665._afpovertcp._tcp.local/joekpayne

I have the same issue with either .iso or DVD folders (.VOB, .IFO, .BUP) when played from the Seagate NAS.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 06 Apr 2016 21:43

More info: I opened sharing preferences and turned off AFP. Then opened the volume with SMB: smb://Seagate-40E665._smb._tcp.local/joekpayne

The pauses/freezes with SMB behave the same way as with AFP.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 10 Apr 2016 17:49

More information: I created a .MP4 from a .ISO file and played the .MP4 from my NAS. There were NO pauses/freezes while playing the .MP4.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 12 Apr 2016 15:27

Are you simply pointing VLC to the ISO or is the ISO mounted and then you have VLC play the mounted image?
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 15 Apr 2016 19:09

Thanks for your question. I am opening the .iso by clicking the file menu, selecting "Open File" and navigating to the .iso file on the NAS - then selecting the file and clicking "open", This is the same method I use to open .iso files stored on my local hard disk and they play with no pauses/freezes. I also tried drag and drop from the finder wind. Same results - long pauses/freezes. I hope this give you the info you requested.....

PS: Do you think I should submit a bug report?

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 19 Apr 2016 22:48

It is possible to open the the ISO file via the Disk Utility, so I just wanted to be sure how you were mounting the image.

You can open a bug report, though before you do be sure to try with a recent nightly build and include logs with the ticket.
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 20 Apr 2016 16:24

Thanks again ajmas! When I open the OS X Disk Utility, I don't see the NAS listed under available drives. When I open the Finder, the NAS is listed under the Shared category. I must be missing something?????

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 20 Apr 2016 20:37

I think I finally figured out what you were talking about. I opened the OSX Disk Utility > File > Open Disk Image then clicked on the ISO file. The file then appears in the Disk Utility under Disk Image Category. Right click on the Disk Image and select "Show in Finder". The I Drag & drop the Video_TS folder to the VLC Media Player window. The video plays & there are NO Pauses/Freezes! If I close all of that and open the .ISO file in the traditional way: VLC > File > Open File and navigate to the .ISO file and click open. Then VLC > Playback > Play -- I get the pauses/freezes.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 25 Apr 2016 21:56

I could have been clearer, but you got what I meant :)

Could you include the message logs when the issue is happening? Also, something else to try is if your NAS has a configuration for when it should spin down the disks, then extend it and see what happens.
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 26 Apr 2016 00:05

I can't figure out how to attach a file. Here is a copy/paste of the log. Sorry for the long post.

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core debug: VLC media player - 2.2.2 Weatherwax core debug: Copyright © 1996-2016 the VideoLAN team core debug: revision 2.2.2-3-gf8c9253 core debug: configured with ../extras/package/macosx/../../../configure '--prefix=/Users/fpk/Desktop/vlc-2.2/release/vlc_install_dir' '--enable-macosx' '--enable-merge-ffmpeg' '--enable-growl' '--enable-faad' '--enable-flac' '--enable-theora' '--enable-shout' '--enable-ncurses' '--enable-twolame' '--enable-realrtsp' '--enable-libass' '--enable-macosx-eyetv' '--enable-macosx-qtkit' '--enable-macosx-avfoundation' '--disable-skins2' '--disable-xcb' '--disable-caca' '--disable-sdl' '--disable-samplerate' '--disable-macosx-dialog-provider' '--with-macosx-version-min=10.6' '--build=x86_64-apple-darwin11' 'build_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin11' 'CC=xcrun clang' 'CFLAGS=' 'LDFLAGS=' 'CXX=xcrun clang++' 'OBJC=xcrun clang' core debug: VLC media player - 2.2.2 Weatherwax core debug: Copyright © 1996-2016 the VideoLAN team core debug: revision 2.2.2-3-gf8c9253 core debug: configured with ../extras/package/macosx/../../../configure '--prefix=/Users/fpk/Desktop/vlc-2.2/release/vlc_install_dir' '--enable-macosx' '--enable-merge-ffmpeg' '--enable-growl' '--enable-faad' '--enable-flac' '--enable-theora' '--enable-shout' '--enable-ncurses' '--enable-twolame' '--enable-realrtsp' '--enable-libass' '--enable-macosx-eyetv' '--enable-macosx-qtkit' '--enable-macosx-avfoundation' '--disable-skins2' '--disable-xcb' '--disable-caca' '--disable-sdl' '--disable-samplerate' '--disable-macosx-dialog-provider' '--with-macosx-version-min=10.6' '--build=x86_64-apple-darwin11' 'build_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin11' 'CC=xcrun clang' 'CFLAGS=' 'LDFLAGS=' 'CXX=xcrun clang++' 'OBJC=xcrun clang' core error: ES_OUT_SET_(GROUP_)PCR is called too late (pts_delay increased to 549 ms) core error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called core debug: Buffering 0% core debug: Buffering 0% core debug: Buffering 0% core debug: Buffering 0% core debug: Buffering 1% core debug: Buffering 1% core debug: 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Edited by ajmas, converting log to code block

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 26 Apr 2016 14:48

I cannot find a setting for the Hard Drive spin down on my NAS. I'll keep looking.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 26 Apr 2016 23:02

It may be an energy saver mode or something of the sorts, though it may also not have one. What make/model is it?
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 26 Apr 2016 23:37

My NAS is a Seagate Central, 4 TB. I confirmed that I am on the latest firmware and Dashboard. Were you able to find anything from the Message Log? Is there a better war to pass it than the copy/paste i used? I saved the message log to an RTF file. Some of the entries were in red but the color did not come across.

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 27 Apr 2016 21:28

I edited your post and marked the log as a code block (code button at top of text entry field). For now I will open a bug report (https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/16879), since I don't see any work around, beyond having you mount the .iso yourself via Disk Utility.
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 27 Apr 2016 22:03

Thanks ajmas!

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 28 Apr 2016 20:28

I see a comment to rely with 3.0.0. Where can I find the download?

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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby ajmas » 28 Apr 2016 22:52

currently only via the nightlies (work in progress builds): http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/macosx-intel/
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Re: long pauses playing .iso videos

Postby joeinkansas » 29 Apr 2016 17:06

I downloaded & tried 3.0.0 and got the same pauses.

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