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Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 27 May 2014 03:33

I can capture video from my cable box using the VLC capture device, but not audio. Error message says "type not supported". Is there anything I can try to capture the audio?
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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 27 May 2014 11:03

Which cable box do you have?

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 27 May 2014 17:39

Verizon FIOS cable box.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 27 May 2014 19:27

Wow, that is described in great detail.
Since there is only one.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 28 May 2014 00:57

On the front of the box I see CHS435HDCP2. Is that what you are looking for?

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 28 May 2014 09:03

No, "CHS435HDCP2" is not a known name for a cable box.

Is your cable box in the Hardware Compatibility list listed?

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 28 May 2014 15:27

The paperwork that came with the box describes it as a "Cisco CHS 435HDC High-Definition Set-Top with Multi-Stream CableCARD (M-Card) Interface". I could not find anything on the Cisco website by that name, but there is a Verizon site that describes it: http://www.verizon.com/Support/Resident ... 128391.htm

Thanks for all your help with this.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 28 May 2014 18:16

What is the connection that you have between the "Cisco CHS 435HDC" and your PC?

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 29 May 2014 02:42

It is pretty low-tech. I am using the connector cable that comes with the Dazzle DVD Recorder HD.

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/u ... OgodK2QAKg

It is basically a little "box" that has RCA inputs for audio and video and connects to my laptop via a USB plug. Then I connect the cable box and the Dazzle box with the standard male to male RCA inputs - a left and right audio input and a video input. Hope this is clear.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 29 May 2014 08:59

Hope this is clear.
Unfortunately, this is not clear.

You have the CS 435 HDC receiver, the Dazzle DVD recorder and the laptop.
How these three devices are connected to each other?
What does the DVD recorder?

You should describe your situation accurately and not always wait until a new question comes.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 29 May 2014 16:35

Sorry, I thought I answered your question. There is no DVD recorder. That is what the Dazzle setup was supposed to be for - to connect a DVD player to your laptop - but that is not how I am using it. I am using it to connect the cable box to my laptop.

The Dazzle box is between the cable box and the laptop. The cable between the Dazzle box and the cable box is male to male RCA plugs. And the cable between the Dazzle box and the laptop comes straight out of the Dazzle box and connects to the laptop via a USB plug.

I am calling it the "Dazzle box", but it just a little plastic thing that on one side has inputs for audio and video and on the other side has a cable coming out that connects into a USB port on my laptop.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 29 May 2014 18:36

Do I understand you correctly:

- The analog output signal from your CS 435 HDC receiver goes through a 3-wire RCA cables to the Dazzle DVD Recorder.
- From there, the output signal of the CS 435 HDC receiver go via a USB cable to your laptop.
- You think your Dazzle DVD Recorder is only a adapter from an analog video signal (RCA cable) to a digital video signal (USB cable).

That can not work.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 29 May 2014 21:31

As far as I know, your understanding of the situation is correct. It does work with some other applications, but not perfectly. So I think you are basically correct. I am going to have to find another way to resolve this issue. In the past, I have used an Osprey 210 video card with a desktop computer, and that worked well. I guess I am going to have to get a desktop and go from there. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 31 May 2014 16:37

I want to pursue this just a bit further. Under the setup mentioned above, Media Player Classic, Expression Encoder and VirtualDub all pick up both video and audio from the cable box. But VLC player picks up video only, no audio. Why is that? Isn't there some adjustment one could make to VLC player to make it work like the others do?
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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 31 May 2014 18:01

Can you with the Medi Player Classic play videos from your receiver on your laptop through the Dazzle DVD Recorder?

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 31 May 2014 22:12

Yes, I can.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 31 May 2014 22:28

Ok, and how did you try it with the VLC?
Please describe it exactly.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 02 Jun 2014 15:06

I open VLC player. Then I click on "Media". Then I click on "Open Capture Device". Then I click on the "Capture Device" tab. Then under "Video device name" I select "Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device". Then under "Audio device name" I select "Line (Dazzle Video Capture USB". Then I click on "Play". I can see the video from the cable box, but no audio. There is an error message as follows: "The device you selected cannot be used, because its type is not supported."

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 02 Jun 2014 16:19

Check the video with "MediaInfo". This is a free tool.
Place for "View" the "Text" option and see the result here.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 02 Jun 2014 17:25

I'm sorry, but I do not understand what "video" you are referring to. I am not playing a file, but the "feed" from the cable box.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 04 Jun 2014 15:29

I had said earlier that my current "Dazzle" setup works with other applications, but "not perfectly". The"not perfectly" was referring specifically to Virtual Dub. I had been having problems with the sound - sometimes it would get really slow or have a strange "warping" of the sound. Virtual Dub has some "Timing" settings that deal with the synching of the audio with the video. Yesterday I posted this issue to a Virtual Dub forum and was told to check the box that says do no synch and uncheck everything else. This seems to have resolved the issue of the slow or warping sound.

So I now feel the "Dazzle" setup is actually working OK, and therefore, I would like to clear up this one last remaining issue - the inability to capture the cable box audio on the VLC player. I hope you can continue to help me with this. Thanks very much.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 04 Jun 2014 17:18

I'm sorry, but I do not understand what "video" you are referring to. I am not playing a file, but the "feed" from the cable box.
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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 04 Jun 2014 17:26

Please note that all the other issues regarding other applications have been resolved. I would very much like to resolve this one last issue with the VLC player. Thanks very much.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby kodela » 04 Jun 2014 19:56

I'm sorry, but I do not understand what "video" you are referring to. I am not playing a file, but the "feed" from the cable box.
I'm sorry, that was with the video to check with MediaInfo a mistake on my part. But you can the check the video stream via Tools - Codec Information. Is here an audio stream displayed?

Do the following before you click "Play":

Open with Tools - Messages the dialog messages.
Enter for Verbosity 2 (debug).
Let's open this dialog.
Now click on Play.
When the video is playing, click Stop.
Save the log data from the Messages dialog to a file.
Post the details here.

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Re: Having trouble capturing audio

Postby jackharmell » 05 Jun 2014 01:47

OK, here is the log data:

main debug: adding item `dshow://' ( dshow:// )
qt4 debug: Adding a new MRL to recent ones: dshow://
main debug: processing request item: dshow://, node: null, skip: 0
main debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
main debug: rebuild done - 1 items, index 0
main debug: starting playback of the new playlist item
main debug: resyncing on dshow://
main debug: dshow:// is at 0
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'dshow://'
main debug: meta ok for (null), need to fetch art
main debug: using timeshift granularity of 50 MiB, in path 'C:\Users\JACKHA~1\AppData\Local\Temp'
main debug: `dshow://' gives access `dshow' demux `' path `'
main debug: creating demux: access='dshow' demux='' location='' file='(null)'
main debug: looking for access_demux module matching "dshow": 12 candidates
dshow debug: dshow-vdev: Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device
dshow debug: dshow-adev: Line (Dazzle Video Capture USB
main debug: looking for meta fetcher module matching "any": 1 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\Jack Harmell\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\fetcher
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\fetcher
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\fetcher\tvrage.luac
main debug: using meta fetcher module "lua"
main debug: removing module "lua"
main debug: searching art for dshow://
main debug: looking for art finder module matching "any": 2 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\Jack Harmell\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\00_musicbrainz.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\01_googleimage.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\02_frenchtv.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac
main debug: no art finder modules matched
main debug: art not found for dshow://
dshow debug: found device: Chicony USB 2.0 Camera
dshow debug: found device: Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device
dshow debug: asking for device: Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device
qt4 debug: IM: Setting an input
dshow debug: asked for Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device, binding to Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device
dshow debug: using device: Dazzle Video Capture USB Video Device
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: output pin: Capture
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: input pin: Analog Video In
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: output pin: VBI
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: output pin: TS
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: trying pin Capture
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: input pin default format configured
dshow debug: EnumDeviceCaps: input pin accepts chroma: I420, width:352, height:288, fps:29.969999
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::JoinFilterGraph
dshow debug: connecting filters
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [not connected]
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::QueryFilterInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryAccept [OK] (width=352, height=288, chroma=I420, fps=29.969999)
dshow debug: CapturePin::ReceiveConnection [OK]
dshow debug: CapturePin::NotifyAllocator
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryPinInfo
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: found existing route for output 0 (type Video Decoder) to input 2 (type Video Composite)
dshow debug: crossbar at depth 0, found route for output 0 (type Video Decoder) to input 2 (type Video Composite)
dshow debug: ConnectFilters: graph_builder2 available.
dshow debug: filters connected successfully !
dshow debug: MEDIATYPE_Video
dshow debug: selected video pin accepts format: I420
dshow debug: found device: Line (Dazzle Video Capture USB
dshow debug: found device: Line (WsAudio_Device)
dshow debug: found device: Microphone (Logitech USB Headse
dshow debug: found device: Microphone (Realtek High Defini
dshow debug: asking for device: Line (Dazzle Video Capture USB
dshow error: can't use device: Line (Dazzle Video Capture USB, unsupported device type
dshow error: can't open audio device
dshow debug: crossbar at depth 0, routed video output 0 to video input 2
dshow debug: crossbar at depth 0, routed audio output 1 to audio input 5
dshow debug: Playing...
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::SetSyncSource
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::Pause
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::Run
main debug: selecting program id=0
main debug: using access_demux module "dshow"
main debug: looking for decoder module matching "any": 39 candidates
main debug: using decoder module "rawvideo"
main debug: looking for meta reader module matching "any": 2 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\Jack Harmell\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\reader
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\reader
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\reader\filename.luac
main debug: no meta reader modules matched
main debug: `dshow://' successfully opened
main debug: Buffering 0%
main debug: looking for text renderer module matching "any": 2 candidates
freetype debug: Using Arial as font from file C:\windows\Fonts\arial.ttf
freetype debug: using fontsize: 2
main debug: using text renderer module "freetype"
main debug: looking for video filter2 module matching "any": 55 candidates
swscale debug: 32x32 chroma: YUVA -> 16x16 chroma: RGBA with scaling using Bicubic (good quality)
main debug: using video filter2 module "swscale"
main debug: looking for video filter2 module matching "any": 55 candidates
yuvp debug: YUVP to YUVA converter
main debug: using video filter2 module "yuvp"
main debug: Deinterlacing available
main debug: deinterlace 0, mode blend, is_needed 0
main debug: Opening vout display wrapper
main debug: looking for vout display module matching "any": 10 candidates
direct3d debug: creating Vout EventThread
direct3d debug: DirectXCreateWindow
main debug: looking for vout window hwnd module matching "qt4,any": 3 candidates
qt4 debug: requesting video window...
main debug: Buffering 10%
qt4 debug: Video was requested 0, 0
main debug: using vout window hwnd module "qt4"
direct3d debug: created video sub-window
direct3d debug: Vout EventThread running
direct3d debug: disabling screen saver
direct3d debug: Direct3d Device: Intel(R) HD Graphics 32902 70 2
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 402x333 window
main debug: Buffering 21%
direct3d warning: trying surface pixel format: YV12
direct3d debug: selected surface pixel format is YV12
direct3d debug: Using D3DTEXF_LINEAR for minification
direct3d debug: Using D3DTEXF_LINEAR for magnification
direct3d debug: Direct3D scene created successfully
direct3d debug: Direct3D device adapter successfully initialized
main debug: using vout display module "direct3d"
main debug: original format sz 352x288, of (0,0), vsz 352x288, 4cc I420, sar 12:11, msk r0x0 g0x0 b0x0
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 485x288 window
main debug: removing module "freetype"
main debug: looking for text renderer module matching "any": 2 candidates
main error: Failed to resize display
freetype debug: Using Arial as font from file C:\windows\Fonts\arial.ttf
freetype debug: using fontsize: 2
main debug: using text renderer module "freetype"
main debug: End of video preroll
main debug: Received first picture
direct3d debug: Created 70x16 texture for OSD
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 384x288 window
main debug: Buffering 31%
main debug: Buffering 42%
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 485x288 window
main debug: Buffering 53%
main debug: Buffering 66%
main debug: Buffering 77%
main debug: Buffering 88%
main debug: Buffering 98%
main debug: Stream buffering done (327 ms in 335 ms)
main debug: Decoder buffering done in 0 ms
main debug: picture might be displayed late (missing 6 ms)
main debug: auto hiding mouse cursor
main debug: auto hiding mouse cursor
main debug: incoming request - stopping current input
main debug: control: stopping input
main warning: can't get output picture
main debug: removing module "rawvideo"
main debug: killing decoder fourcc `I420', 0 PES in FIFO
main debug: incoming request - stopping current input
main debug: finished input
main debug: saving a free vout
main debug: reusing provided vout
main debug: removing module "dshow"
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::Pause
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::Stop
dshow debug: CapturePin::EndFlush
main error: Failed to resize display
dshow debug: releasing DirectShow
dshow debug: DeleteDirectShowGraph: Removing filters
dshow debug: DeleteDirectShowGraph: Removing capture filter
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::EnumPins
dshow debug: CapturePin::QueryDirection
dshow debug: CapturePin::ConnectedTo [OK]
dshow debug: CapturePin::Disconnect [OK]
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::SetSyncSource
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::JoinFilterGraph
dshow debug: CaptureFilter::GetState 0
dshow debug: DeleteDirectShowGraph: Removing device filter
main debug: Program doesn't contain anymore ES
main debug: incoming request - stopping current input
main debug: dead input
main debug: destroying useless vout
main debug: removing module "direct3d"
direct3d debug: Direct3D scene released successfully
direct3d debug: DirectXEventThread terminating
direct3d debug: DirectXCloseWindow
direct3d debug: WinProc WM_DESTROY
qt4 debug: releasing video...
qt4 debug: IM: Deleting the input
qt4 debug: Video is not needed anymore
main debug: removing module "freetype"
main debug: removing module "yuvp"
main debug: removing module "swscale"


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