VLC 2.0

[videojim]

First, thank you for not forcing us to use Lion's full screen mode. It is such a bad way to implement full screen, it's pointless (and is completely broken if you have two or more screens). I'd have to stop using VLC if that was the only way to go to full screen mode.

I appreciate the time and effort going into 2.0, but I do have a couple of comments.

I used to play the video on a 2nd screen and used the controller window in my main screen to control it. This is no longer possible with 2.0. Can you put the separate controller back in as an option? Even just a mini-controller with the progress bar to position the video, play/pause/ffw/rev and maybe skip ahead/back 30 seconds buttons.
Actually, if there was a way to hide the playlist/sidebar area and just display the titlebar and controls on the bottom of the window that would work fine.
Looking at the interface, there is show/hide playlist button, but it's disabled if you play the video in a separate window.

I don't particularly like the new media list window. It just doesn't really work with the way I use VLC. I could live with it if the separate controller came back (or the minimize playlist button always worked).

If you play the video in a separate window, it'd be nice to have the disappearing title bar like Quicktime X does.

Thanks.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

First, thank you for not forcing us to use Lion's full screen mode. It is such a bad way to implement full screen, it's pointless (and is completely broken if you have two or more screens). I'd have to stop using VLC if that was the only way to go to full screen mode.

We agree, that is why there is an option.

I used to play the video on a 2nd screen and used the controller window in my main screen to control it. This is no longer possible with 2.0. Can you put the separate controller back in as an option? Even just a mini-controller with the progress bar to position the video, play/pause/ffw/rev and maybe skip ahead/back 30 seconds buttons.
Actually, if there was a way to hide the playlist/sidebar area and just display the titlebar and controls on the bottom of the window that would work fine.
Looking at the interface, there is show/hide playlist button, but it's disabled if you play the video in a separate window.

Yes, this is not possible for 2.0, but we will reintroduce something for a minor version of VLC 2.0.x

I don't particularly like the new media list window. It just doesn't really work with the way I use VLC. I could live with it if the separate controller came back (or the minimize playlist button always worked).

I don't see why it is annoying to you. If you don't like the playlist, don't use it...

If you play the video in a separate window, it'd be nice to have the disappearing title bar like Quicktime X does.

In black mode?

[videojim]

Yes, this is not possible for 2.0, but we will reintroduce something for a minor version of VLC 2.0.x

That would be great.

I don't see why it is annoying to you. If you don't like the playlist, don't use it...

It doesn't really annoy me, but I was just commenting that it isn't my cup of tea. If it can be hidden with a future release, then there's no problem (I did occasionally use the media list on 0.x and 1.x, but the media list in 2.0 is larger and not yet hideable).

[/quote] In black mode?[/quote]
either mode really. Even with all the flaws in Quicktime X, I do like the disappearing title bar.

Thanks again for the best video player for Mac!

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Yes, this is not possible for 2.0, but we will reintroduce something for a minor version of VLC 2.0.x

That would be great.

I don't see why it is annoying to you. If you don't like the playlist, don't use it...

It doesn't really annoy me, but I was just commenting that it isn't my cup of tea. If it can be hidden with a future release, then there's no problem (I did occasionally use the media list on 0.x and 1.x, but the media list in 2.0 is larger and not yet hideable).

either mode really. Even with all the flaws in Quicktime X, I do like the disappearing title bar.

Thanks again for the best video player for Mac!

Oh you want collapsable blue bar? Or something else?

[Geoffroy]

Hi Jean-Baptiste,

I was also searching for a way to "collapse the blue bar" when I came across this thread, so I'll second videojim and I'll also be glad if it could be integrated in a future release.

Great work on v2.0 by the way !
Best,

Geoffroy.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

2.0.1 will do it.

[kdean]

First, thank you for not forcing us to use Lion's full screen mode. It is such a bad way to implement full screen, it's pointless (and is completely broken if you have two or more screens). I'd have to stop using VLC if that was the only way to go to full screen mode.

We agree, that is why there is an option.

I'd even go so far as to suggest the non-lion mode should be the default instead of the way it is now. Seems that would reduce some complaints about fullscreen issues.

[HellOhHowru]

I don't particularly like the new media list window. It just doesn't really work with the way I use VLC. I could live with it if the separate controller came back (or the minimize playlist button always worked).

I don't see why it is annoying to you. If you don't like the playlist, don't use it...

I agree with the OP. Although I'm sure it's a nice feature for some people, I will never use the library/computer/network/internet. It would be nice if that column collapsable and the box resizable. I'm used to having vlc open almost all the time and I really liked how it wouldn't take up much screen space if I didn't want it to.

Really impressive update all around though.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

First, thank you for not forcing us to use Lion's full screen mode. It is such a bad way to implement full screen, it's pointless (and is completely broken if you have two or more screens). I'd have to stop using VLC if that was the only way to go to full screen mode.

We agree, that is why there is an option.

I'd even go so far as to suggest the non-lion mode should be the default instead of the way it is now. Seems that would reduce some complaints about fullscreen issues.

We will do that... People really don't understand their own OS...

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

I don't particularly like the new media list window. It just doesn't really work with the way I use VLC. I could live with it if the separate controller came back (or the minimize playlist button always worked).

I don't see why it is annoying to you. If you don't like the playlist, don't use it...

I agree with the OP. Although I'm sure it's a nice feature for some people, I will never use the library/computer/network/internet. It would be nice if that column collapsable and the box resizable. I'm used to having vlc open almost all the time and I really liked how it wouldn't take up much screen space if I didn't want it to.

This will come.

[Cathleen6]

I'd like to add my vote to the call for a smaller/more collapsible interface. I realise that the new UI may be helpful to some people, but it doesn't really work for me.

Aside from being more aesthetically pleasing, I liked how compact and simple the old UI was; the new UI takes up four times as much of my screen, which is a problem because I use VLC constantly, and it's usually not the only window I have open. Over all, the new UI seems much less efficient space-wise. I'd add that when the UI was a slimmer rectangle it was less likely to get in the way of its own video display.

Thanks.

[kdean]

@Cathleen6, which part of the interface? If you're talking seeing the playlist, then with 2.0.1 you can collapse that by clicking the playlist button. If you deselect "Show video within the main window" in the preferences and then collapse the playlist to just a controller, it'll be very similar to how previous VLC versions worked.

[Cathleen6]

@kdean: Thanks; that probably should have been more obvious than it was. Less homicide-inducing, but still not ideal.

[CumMouth]

I agree the new interface should be able to become more terse... but the one change that has been driving me nuts is the replacing the function of the ">>" and "<<" buttons with the action attributed to the ">>|" and "|<<" buttons... either bring both sets back {this would be ideal}, or change the player to send the "jump time" versus "jump tracks" like it used to... We often have a little sound happen and want to jump back a moment to re-hear something in the program, and it's kind of cumbersome to find the command-option-arrow on the keyboard instead of a quick couple clicks on the button we've spent years using.

Otherwise it seems to playback things better, so that is good... the drag-n-drop of new things to add them to your playlist is a little more tricky during playback, as it seems to always want to immediately play the new item instead of adding it to the bottom of the playlist (which was a location based decision in the original interface, but there seems to be no combination of settings to make it behave this way when you view the video in the interface window...).

Also, if you have changed the playback speed ever, even if you go back to 1x you will not be able to do a video screen capture until you close and re-open VLC. Seems to be a problem with libavcodec being open, and not being able to find 'any' to load, thus causing a 'no suitable encoder' fourcc error for the snapshot...

Is there an option to maintain the position on the screen from the last time VLC opened? I watch stuff at double size in the lower left of my screen, and when I open VLC the smaller window is neatly tucked down there, but when I double the window size, it falls off the bottom requiring me to reposition the window every time to the mid way of my screen height... it's cute that it tucks itself in the corner like that, but perhaps you can grow the window away from the screen edges instead of right+down (which I know is easier to code ... lol)

Thanks for everything so far!

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

I agree the new interface should be able to become more terse... but the one change that has been driving me nuts is the replacing the function of the ">>" and "<<" buttons with the action attributed to the ">>|" and "|<<" buttons... either bring both sets back {this would be ideal}, or change the player to send the "jump time" versus "jump tracks" like it used to... We often have a little sound happen and want to jump back a moment to re-hear something in the program, and it's kind of cumbersome to find the command-option-arrow on the keyboard instead of a quick couple clicks on the button we've spent years using.

Just long click on the buttons.

[CumMouth]

Just long click on the buttons.

That would be great if I wanted to skip back a full minute or two, but since I can set the short jumps to a couple of seconds (only slightly shorter than the default anyway), it'd be easier if it had the choice to switch the meaning back to the original usage of that button, or to label it's new function accordingly. We need more granularity than that, and used to have it with the old interface, thus we wish the function to not have been relegated to only the keystrokes option. And before you ask, you can't get that sort of granularity by dragging the slider bar on a 2.5hr movie either... if you expand the window to the full size of your screen, the slider bar is quite long, and still does not achieve this, and if you use fullscreen, the slider bar is much shorter (about half your screen width) and you have even less resolution for the slider bar.

[dippity]

my computer is being rendered useless by VLC.. takes over the screen now and seems to be getting worse (is it secure) it just freezes and takes over the screen or the VLC finder just freezes the whole screen up (except if i can engage finder or any other app via an open window or the bar on the side) when looking for a file.., as a matter of fact only the ext hd shows up like this and. its not possible to see the hard drive on the computer. to do that i have to open finder and drop and drag. this is a sad day. I now have to restart my imac just because vlc has taken over my screen.

[Steve_0]

I would like to second the vote for a small controller with file list, and the large play window as separate.

99% of the time I have the player window full screen in my second monitor, while I use the controller and playlist in a small window on my main screen. I'm almost always going through a long list of short video files. I like being able to drag items to this list and work the controls without interrupting the main player window.

Thank you.

[kdean]

Try:

http://feepk.net/customizing-vlc-for-mac