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mpc files not playing anymore

Postby zdahAli » 11 Sep 2009 18:01

Hello,
mpc files (musepack) used to work (on vlc 0.9.9a under OS X 10.4 and on vlc 0.9.4 under Ubuntu 8.10) and I can't play them anymore, I have the latest stable version of vlc (1.0.1) running on OS X Leopard.
waiting for your answers, ideas...
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby zdahAli » 11 Sep 2009 18:25

I have replaced the 1.0.1 version with the 0.9.1 version and it works ! it is definitely a problem with the > 1.0 versions.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 11 Sep 2009 18:56

Can you share the file?
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby zdahAli » 12 Sep 2009 13:33

I don't think it's legal, sorry ...
by the way, I have tested mpc files on vlc 1.0.1 under Debian 5.0 testing, and it works !

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 23 Sep 2009 10:40

I don't think it's legal, sorry ...
It is not illegal if you upload a short sample (~30 sec.)
Here you are a test one.
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby zdahAli » 23 Sep 2009 16:16

Thanks for the sample !
The problem isn't solved with 1.0.2 version

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 24 Sep 2009 09:48

Well, Musepack support is broken in Windows compiles too, but it seems that development does not have enough time to fix it.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 24 Sep 2009 12:57

I can have a look. Send me more files.
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 28 Sep 2009 12:42

I can have a look. Send me more files.
Thank you. I've uploaded some test files to Mediafire, I guess they will be available for 7 days.

1. Musepack SV7 - plays fine
2. SV8 no tags - cannot be played
3. SV8 with tags - cannot be played
4. SV8 with tags and chapters - cannot be played

I've uploaded an SV8 file twice, with and without tags, because I've found out that some players crash with tagged SV8 files.
Please let me know if you have troubles downloading the files. Maybe I had to zip them before upload, I'll to that if you get broken files.

Edit:
I've uploaded a shorter SV8 with tags and chaps, no need to download the larger one.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 13 Oct 2009 16:07

For the last two weeks the test files were downloaded once.
There is still hope :)

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby jhauffa » 07 Nov 2009 11:37

I've spent some time investigating this, and it looks like there are actually two
problems:

1. On MacOS X Intel, even SV7 files do not play. After inserting some msg_Dbg calls
into modules/demux/mpc.c, it looks like the binary of libmpcdec downloaded by the
package manager in extras/contrib is corrupted. It calls the functions ReaderRead and
ReaderSeek in the correct sequence and the functions return the right values, but
libmpcdec still decides that the file header is invalid. Rebuilding the library
(libmpcdec.5.0.2.dylib) from the official sources [1] fixes the problem for me.

2. At least on Windows and MacOS, VLC is built against libmpcdec-1.2.6, which does not
support SV8. However a new library that supports SV8 is available on the Musepack
homepage [2] and mpc.c already contains the necessary ifdef/configure magic to use it.

It looks like the VLC developers could kill two birds with one stone by updating their
prebuilt binaries of libmpcdec to the latest version.

- Jan


[1] http://files.musepack.net/source/libmpc ... .6.tar.bz2
[2] http://files.musepack.net/source/musepa ... 435.tar.gz

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 10 Nov 2009 14:14

It looks like the VLC developers could kill two birds with one stone by updating their
prebuilt binaries of libmpcdec to the latest version.

- Jan
Looks pretty easy, I don't understand how nobody fixed till now? The SV8 code is available since almost one year.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 11 Nov 2009 18:20

It looks like the VLC developers could kill two birds with one stone by updating their
prebuilt binaries of libmpcdec to the latest version.

- Jan
Looks pretty easy, I don't understand how nobody fixed till now? The SV8 code is available since almost one year.
Probably because it wasn't high priority enough for most people to do it?
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 12 Nov 2009 23:23

It looks like the VLC developers could kill two birds with one stone by updating their
prebuilt binaries of libmpcdec to the latest version.

- Jan
Looks pretty easy, I don't understand how nobody fixed till now? The SV8 code is available since almost one year.
Probably because it wasn't high priority enough for most people to do it?
Or not enough knowledge of people which need it. Oh well...

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby bobbertrailer » 17 Nov 2009 11:01

I need to reinstall 0.9.1 in order to work.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 07 Jan 2010 21:58

There is a small improvement in latest vlc-1.1.0-git-20100107-0002 for windows.
It already plays about a second from the beginning of a musepack SV8 file.
In the Codec Details window one can see "Codec: MUSEPACK8 Audio (MPCK)".
So, somebody is working on that, thanks guys.
Now the problem is how to play the rest (n-1) sec. of the file :)

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby LinLan » 09 Jan 2010 04:13


Probably because it wasn't high priority enough for most people to do it?
Would it be possible to have an updated version built for the 1.0.4 release?

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby cmagic » 03 Feb 2010 08:01

HI,

Anybody tried if 1.05 is playing mpc (musepack) files now on Mac OS X ?
I'm still running 0.99 and tired of trying every version since 1.00 just to see that mpc playback is missing before pulling back to good ol' 0.99.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 09 Feb 2010 08:12

HI,

Anybody tried if 1.05 is playing mpc (musepack) files now on Mac OS X ?
I'm still running 0.99 and tired of trying every version since 1.00 just to see that mpc playback is missing before pulling back to good ol' 0.99.

thanks and have a good day
I do the same (trying every new version), but no luck so far. I'm on windows and my problem is the missing SV8 support. SV7 is working, though. What streaming version are your files? Just curious.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby cmagic » 12 Feb 2010 19:28

Hi,

I am mainly using SV7 but I'm on a Mac and up to 0.99, VLC was the only way to play mpc files on the mac.
I tried VLC 1.0.5 in a Win XP Virtual machine and it plays SV7 nicely but it's cumbersome.

Maybe 1.0.6 will playback mpc on the mac ??

thanks for the feedback anyway

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby zdahAli » 10 Sep 2010 11:19

vlc 1.1.3 and still no support of the musepack codec ... the developers and the administrators of vlc don't seem aware of that, as they pretend to support it on the features page : http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=audio
hello ?!!! is there anybody out there ?

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby cmagic » 25 Nov 2010 22:18

Hi,

Yep, still no mpc support on VLC, Mac or PC.
What's the matter folks, have you completely forgotten musepack?

I am aware that musepack is not a mainstream format and used only by some obscure geeks. Based on that you might well have decided to drop support for mpc but then stop pretending that VLC can still play it.

BTW I'm still using VLC 0.99 on mac for mpc playing.

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 26 Nov 2010 15:44

Hi,

BTW I'm still using VLC 0.99 on mac for mpc playing.

Ciao
Cool, but I bet you have old mpc files (in SV7 format, which is considered obsolete).

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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 26 Nov 2010 19:26

Ok. Give me a link to 5 (at least 5, try to do a mix in different settings) mpc files and I'll fix it.
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Re: mpc files not playing anymore

Postby apt » 29 Nov 2010 09:02

I can make 5 (or more) different variants of one and the same small source file, compressed (and tagged) with different settings, I think this would be better than providing you 5 different files.
Maybe tonight, when I go home.
Thanks in advance, Man!


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