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vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby DaveMt19 » 22 Jul 2010 07:13

I downloaded VLC 1.1.1 (Win 32 installer) from the link to sourceforge. The file is flagged by Kaspersky as containing the trojan Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam.

I have tested with Norton AV and Malwarebytes, both of which say the file is clean. I uploaded the file to Vircan.Org, which uses a bunch of scanners to analyze the file. It was flagged by one scanner as containing a trojan. Here are the results:

http://virscan.org/report/40d28a66fb599 ... 313b6.html

So, is this file infected or not?

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby DaveMt19 » 22 Jul 2010 07:21

Also, I used another file uploading/scanning service to check the file - virustotal.net and 3 engines there report trojans in the file: Kaspersky, Antiy-AVL and The Hacker. Here are the results:

https://www.virustotal.com/analisis/9d5 ... 1279775019

Anyone have any comments?

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby flibble » 22 Jul 2010 10:07

I also receive this same warning (Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam) in the installer file (vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe) which has been downloaded by the VLC auto update.
When downloading and installing VLC 1.1.1 yesterday (2010-07-21), I didn't receive a warning. This is probably due to a signature update issued today (2010-07-22) which contains the new signature: http://www.securelist.com/en/descriptio ... .TDSS.bjam (Kaspersky's Malware Info Site).

However, I'm not sure whether this is just a false-positive or new malware which has recently started to spread which might have infected the VLC 1.1.1 installer (on some download locations?).

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby flibble » 22 Jul 2010 10:08

I'm using Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 (9.0.0.736) by the way.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby DaveMt19 » 22 Jul 2010 10:23

I also receive this same warning (Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam) in the installer file (vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe) which has been downloaded by the VLC auto update.
When downloading and installing VLC 1.1.1 yesterday (2010-07-21), I didn't receive a warning. This is probably due to a signature update issued today (2010-07-22) which contains the new signature: http://www.securelist.com/en/descriptio ... .TDSS.bjam (Kaspersky's Malware Info Site).

However, I'm not sure whether this is just a false-positive or new malware which has recently started to spread which might have infected the VLC 1.1.1 installer (on some download locations?).
Thanks for your reply. Yes, it does seem that Kaspersky only added the signature for Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam yesterday, which would explain why the file wasn't flagged when you downloaded it yesterday, but was flagged when you downloaded it today.

I am wondering if other virus scanners will also start producing warnings as more of them add signatures for Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam over the coming few days. As you can see from the results I posted earlier, 3 virus scanners already report the file as infected, and a 4th (Symantec File Insight) flags it as "suspicious" without actually claiming a virus.

I looked up Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjam on Google, and apparently it is a rootkit. This might explain why it's so hard to detect and is being missed by other virus scanners.

I think this is a critical issue that needs to be addressed by the VideoLAN people as soon as possible. Spreading a nasty rootkit like that to millions of people is extremely irresponsible behavior. And if these are false flags and the file is not infected, then we need to hear from them on the issue. They should explicitly state that the file is free of malware and that the warnings from various antivirus software are all wrong.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby DaveMt19 » 22 Jul 2010 11:10

Here's an update.

I reported this problem on the VLC mailing list, and one of the developers says he contacted Kaspersky. He says Kaspersky has since then updated their virus definitions, and the VLC installer is no longer flagged as having a trojan.

Could someone who uses Kaspersky please confirm this? If you have Kaspersky, download the latest virus definitions, then do a scan of the Windows VLC installer - the file vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe which is available from SourceForge. See if you get a trojan warning and report it here.

Also, since according to the list I posted earlier, other virus scanners (besides Kaspersky) also report a trojan, it'd be nice if we could get official word from the VideoLAN people that they've examined the file and guarantee it to be safe.

Thanks.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby motorhue » 22 Jul 2010 11:40

I am using F-Secure, and got trojan warnings as you did. However I checked for updated virus definitions just now, and still it reports the trojan when trying to download vlc v1.1.1. However this may be due to delay over at the F-secure guys?

Edit: F-secure now flags vlc v1.1.1 as safe.
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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby debunk » 22 Jul 2010 14:36

Could someone who uses Kaspersky please confirm this? If you have Kaspersky, download the latest virus definitions, then do a scan of the Windows VLC installer - the file vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe which is available from SourceForge. See if you get a trojan warning and report it here.
As of today Kaspersky no longer gives a trojan warning.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby thresh » 22 Jul 2010 15:53

Nothing to worry about, folks, VLC is definitely not a trojan if downloaded from videolan.org!

Here's a reply from Kaspersky Labs virus analyst I've just received:
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:40:26 +0400
From: newvirus@kaspersky.com
Subject: RE: False positive in vlc 1.1.1 release.


Hello,

Sorry, it was a false detection. It will be fixed in the next update.
Thank you for your help.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 22 Jul 2010 18:15

Guys, VLC for Windows is compiled on LINUX, on a box, where there are NO windows installed...

Very unlikely to be infected...
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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby VLC_help » 22 Jul 2010 18:18

This seems to happen with EVERY VLC release. Maybe we should do source code only releases...

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby ekear » 02 Aug 2010 17:56

And it happend again:
Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 (9.0.0.726.a.b.c) detects "vlc-1.1.2-win32.exe" this time as "Trojan.Win32.TDSS.bjem".
As you can see here on securelist the signature is quite new.

Here you got the Virustotal-Report: *Click*

I requested to Kaspersky via HelpDesk. Waiting for an answer.

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 02 Aug 2010 18:30

Use a better antivirus.
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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby Ludrax » 02 Aug 2010 18:47

An' if ain't broke, then don't try to fix it...

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Re: vlc-1.1.1-win32.exe trojan warning?

Postby ekear » 03 Aug 2010 01:27

Hello,

Sorry, it was a false detection. It will be fixed in the next update.
Thank you for your help.

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