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moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 30 Jun 2010 18:11

Hello.
I see horizontal moire effects when playing some MPEG files with a great video size, that is a great number of pixels in a line.
Such as this one :
http://uploading.com/files/e9a1eb5d/moire.ts/
In a recent version of SMPlayer I *think* I see the same artifact, but I can't tell clearly because it is even jagged there...
My video card is Radeon 9600 with some DXVA support for MPEG2 and I'm using WinXP SP2.
I see no problem when I play the file with a proprietary player supporting the hardware mode or using another player with the GABest codec in software mode.
It only happens when I select 'Scale'. My screen resolution is 1024x768 and the size of the above file is larger so it does. If I set my screen to 1280x1024 then the 'Scale' doesn't happen and nor the problem.
Also with my screen resolution (1024x768) I have set VLC at the top left side of the screen with the minimum windows size possible. And this is normally remembered and restored when I exit and run it again. After I play this file, however, when I run vlc again the vertical window size is slightly larger, thus I see some black space for the video area, that I find ugly.
Are this bugs already known?
Thanks.
by the way, since i find the speed of the above site too slow, any suggestion for another site allowing uploads for future use like in this case is welcome, too.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby VLC_help » 01 Jul 2010 12:31

Does same problem happen with all video output modules?
http://wiki.videolan.org/WindowsFAQ-1.0 ... _output.3F

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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 02 Jul 2010 01:10

Only Simple DirectMedia Layer and Directx(DirectDraw) work for me. The problem happens with both. In the case of DirectMedia, if I'm not in fullscreen mode the problem does not happen but it's because it's unscaled. Unchecking Overlay doesn't solve the problem, either.
I tried to convert the file to another format using Menu -> Media -> Convert / Save... to see if the problem persists, but I coudn't do it, likely because i'm not experienced with it.

ps: In my previous post, I forgot to mention that I'm using qt4 interface, for the second problem of the arbitrarily changing window size.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 02 Jul 2010 01:42

Try D3D without YUV-RGB acceleration.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 02 Jul 2010 02:01

Sorry but i can't find the way to disable yuv and rgb in the preference window or google... can you tell me how to do it?
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 02 Jul 2010 12:10

Preferences->Video
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 02 Jul 2010 13:05

Okay, thanks. it's Preferences-Video->Output Modeules->DirectX->Use hardware YUV-RGB conversions, uh?
I tried Direct3d output modules with that grid unchecked, but the video is always absent.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 03 Jul 2010 02:15

Preferences->Video, the simples one.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 03 Jul 2010 13:58

I thought they were the same option because they have the same popup message. I tried the one you said, and the same thing happens.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 03 Jul 2010 17:27

I thought they were the same option because they have the same popup message. I tried the one you said, and the same thing happens.
Can you share a pix of the issue, please?
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 04 Jul 2010 14:24

Only if you tell me a capture tool that works with vlc. I can't with mine. the snapshot made with vlc doesn't show the problem.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby VLC_help » 04 Jul 2010 15:49

Print screen button in keyboard. Then Edit -> Paste in any image processing program (like Paint).

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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 04 Jul 2010 20:50

No, it doesn't work... The area for video is black.
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 05 Jul 2010 00:56

Deactivate overlay before print
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby acedavid » 05 Jul 2010 14:22

Here:
Image

Since i'm writing, I also post this:
Image
Fix this too, plz

Also, OSD for volume control doesn't show sometimes, if you don't know it..
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Re: moire & window size bugs caused by large videos

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 06 Jul 2010 08:08

Use yadif deinterlacing.
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