DVB-S tuning

[kakies]

Hello guys,

after spending 2 days i have to say i cant figure out by my own - and need you help, please.
Windows XP, many different versions of VLC, DVB-S card "Technisat Skystar HD2" AND "Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-HD-S2" i cant tune the card.

hauppauge: no picture at all
Technisat: Always "München TV", regardless of my settings.

I tried loads of "vlc.exe dvb-s:// --dvb-frequency=10744000 --dvb-srate=...." commands - without luck. Either nothing, or "München-TV".

Can anyone give me a working example of one commandline, working on windows, for receiving a sat-channel, please?

THX

[kakies]

Hi,

no one has a working DVB-s in windows? If, please provide either MRL or playlist!! If not possible, can someone explain how to make the develop-team focus on that?

regards
kakies

[VLC_help]

What does Tools -> Messages... (set Verbosity to 2) say when you try to open your DVB-S device? (open messages before capture device)

[kakies]

Hi VLC_Help,

first let me say thank you for spending time so solve my problem. Forum seems to be down for a while, sorry for the delay.
I really tried different PCs, all under XP prof. actual patched, two different cards (Hauppauge and Technisat) - and i never get what i guess. Semms that either i make a mistake in tuning parameters, or SW has a bug..As soon as there is a working environment i will write a manual for all of us.

Using Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-HD2 (model 229) I try to tune to the first Program in this list (ARTE Deutsch):
http://www.astra.de/sender/senderlisten ... number.pdf
SR22000 FEC=5/6 Freq=10744 is in the list.

What i do:
1) Open VLC
2) Tools/Messages/verbose=2
3) media/openCaptureDevice/select"DVB Directshow"
4) Transponder="10744000 KHz", Transponder Symbol Rate="22000 KHz"
5) Play"
..The result is this (and yes, pre buffering is the last line..)

qt4 debug: Initialization of Capture device panel
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-srate=0
main debug: adding item `dvb-s://frequency=0' ( dvb-s://frequency=0 )
main debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
main debug: rebuild done - 1 items, index -1
main debug: processing request item dvb-s://frequency=0 node null skip 0
main debug: resyncing on dvb-s://frequency=0
main debug: dvb-s://frequency=0 is at 0
main debug: starting new item
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'dvb-s://frequency=0'
qt4 debug: Adding a new MRL to recent ones: dvb-s://frequency=0
main debug: thread (input) created at priority 1 (../.././src/input/input.c:230)
main debug: thread started
main debug: using timeshift granularity of 50 MBytes
main debug: using timeshift path 'C:\DOKUME~1\admin\LOKALE~1\Temp'
main debug: `dvb-s://frequency=0' gives access `dvb-s' demux `' path `frequency=0'
main debug: creating demux: access='dvb-s' demux='' path='frequency=0'
main debug: looking for access_demux module: 0 candidates
main debug: no access_demux module matched "dvb-s"
main debug: TIMER module_need() : 0.000 ms - Total 0.000 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 0.000 ms)
main debug: creating access 'dvb-s' path='frequency=0'
main debug: looking for access module: 1 candidate
qt4 debug: IM: Setting an input
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
bda debug: CreateTuneRequest: Using Tuning Space: DVBS
bda debug: Build: Using Tuning Space ID 8
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-S/S2 Tuner/Demod
bda debug: BDAGraph: Using adapter 0
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected Hauppauge WinTV 88x TS Capture
bda debug: Build: Trying connecting with subtype MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_TRANSPORT
bda warning: Build: Cannot connect Sample Grabber to Capture device: hr=0x80004005 (try 1/2)
bda debug: Build: Trying connecting with subtype KSDATAFORMAT_SUBTYPE_BDA_MPEG2_TRANSPORT
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter
bda debug: Graph started hr=0x0
main debug: using access module "bda"
main debug: TIMER module_need() : 6847.000 ms - Total 6847.000 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 6847.000 ms)
main debug: Using AStream*Block
main debug: pre buffering

[kakies]

another try:

1) open VLC
2) Tools/Messages/Verbose=2
3) Transponder="10744000", Transponder Symbol Rate = "22000"
4) Advanced Options: Transponder/MultiplexFreq="10744000", FEC="3/4", TransponderSymbSate="22000"
5) "OK" / Play

This is the result:
qt4 debug: Initialization of Capture device panel
qt4 debug: :dvb-caching=300 :dvb-frequency=10744000 :dvb-network-name= :dvb-create-name= :dvb-adapter=-1 :dvb-inversion=2 :dvb-polarisation=H :dvb-network-id=0 :dvb-azimuth=0 :dvb-elevation=0 :dvb-longitude=0 :dvb-range= :dvb-lnb-lof1=0 :dvb-lnb-lof2=0 :dvb-lnb-slof=0 :dvb-srate=22000 :dvb-modulation=-1 :dvb-major-channel=0 :dvb-minor-channel=0 :dvb-physical-channel=0 :dvb-code-rate-hp=3 :dvb-code-rate-lp=-1 :dvb-bandwidth=-1 :dvb-guard=-1 :dvb-transmission=-1 :dvb-hierarchy=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-srate=22000:dvb-caching=300
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-frequency=10744000
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-network-name=
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-create-name=
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-adapter=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-inversion=2
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-polarisation=H
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-network-id=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-azimuth=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-elevation=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-longitude=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-range=
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-lnb-lof1=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-lnb-lof2=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-lnb-slof=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-srate=22000
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-modulation=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-major-channel=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-minor-channel=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-physical-channel=0
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-code-rate-hp=3
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-code-rate-lp=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-bandwidth=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-guard=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-transmission=-1
qt4 warning: Input option: dvb-hierarchy=-1
main debug: adding item `dvb-s://frequency=10744000' ( dvb-s://frequency=10744000 )
main debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
main debug: rebuild done - 1 items, index -1
main debug: processing request item dvb-s://frequency=10744000 node null skip 0
qt4 debug: Adding a new MRL to recent ones: dvb-s://frequency=10744000
main debug: resyncing on dvb-s://frequency=10744000
main debug: dvb-s://frequency=10744000 is at 0
main debug: starting new item
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'dvb-s://frequency=10744000'
main debug: thread (input) created at priority 1 (../.././src/input/input.c:230)
main debug: thread started
main debug: using timeshift granularity of 50 MBytes
main debug: using timeshift path 'C:\DOKUME~1\admin\LOKALE~1\Temp'
main debug: `dvb-s://frequency=10744000' gives access `dvb-s' demux `' path `frequency=10744000'
main debug: creating demux: access='dvb-s' demux='' path='frequency=10744000'
main debug: looking for access_demux module: 0 candidates
main debug: no access_demux module matched "dvb-s"
main debug: TIMER module_need() : 0.000 ms - Total 0.000 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 0.000 ms)
main debug: creating access 'dvb-s' path='frequency=10744000'
main debug: looking for access module: 1 candidate
bda debug: CreateTuneRequest: Using Tuning Space: DVBS
bda debug: Build: Using Tuning Space ID 8
qt4 debug: IM: Setting an input
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-S/S2 Tuner/Demod
bda debug: BDAGraph: Using adapter 0
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected Hauppauge WinTV 88x TS Capture
bda debug: Build: Trying connecting with subtype MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_TRANSPORT
bda warning: Build: Cannot connect Sample Grabber to Capture device: hr=0x80004005 (try 1/2)
bda debug: Build: Trying connecting with subtype KSDATAFORMAT_SUBTYPE_BDA_MPEG2_TRANSPORT
bda debug: FindFilter: Connected BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter
bda debug: Graph started hr=0x0
main debug: using access module "bda"
main debug: TIMER module_need() : 4504.000 ms - Total 4504.000 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 4504.000 ms)
main debug: Using AStream*Block
main debug: pre buffering


<<<<<<<here i pressed "STOP"

main debug: incoming request - stopping current input
main debug: dying input
main debug: prebuffering done 0 bytes in 12s - 0 kbytes/s
main error: cannot pre fill buffer
main warning: cannot create a stream_t from access
bda warning: BDA SampleCB: Sample Discontinuity.
main debug: removing module "bda"
main debug: dying input
main debug: thread ended
main debug: dead input
main debug: thread times: real 0m17.437500s, kernel 0m0.093750s, user 0m0.015625s
qt4 debug: IM: Deleting the input
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
qt4 debug: Updating the geometry
main debug: TIMER input launching for 'dvb-s://frequency=10744000' : 17449.001 ms - Total 17449.001 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 17449.000 ms)

[VLC_help]

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=52923&p=172569&hil ... vb#p175882
you might need more parameters.

[kakies]

Hi,

you are right - problem has to do with missing parameters.
Regarding of the used hardware we have success with different sets of parameters. After all, i can say both used cards (Hauppauge and Technisat) are working correct. Another info for everybody: Once you make a mistake in tuning-parameters rebooting might be needed.

used SW: 1.0.3, official release.

thx,
kakies

[kakies]

Hi,

after testing i can confirm DVB-S is working and quite stable, as long as the right set of parameters is given.
Anyway, it seems DVB-S2 is not supported at all - any change to get that working?

regards,
kakies

[kakies]

Hi Guys,

even while it is hard to find the needed settings, tuning to DVB-s via VLC works well. Actually
I collect all needed information and write a small manual to post here. To give others just a quick
start, please give this command line a try:

vlc dvb-s:// :dvb-frequency=12148000 :dvb-srate=27500 :dvb-polarisation=H :dvb-lnb-lof1=10600000 :dvb-lnb-lof2=0 :dvb-lnb-slof=0

regards
kakies

[VLC_help]

write a small manual to post here.

If you aren't too busy, you could add that info to Wiki also.
http://wiki.videolan.org/Main_Page

[KenS]

after testing i can confirm DVB-S is working and quite stable, as long as the right set of parameters is given.
Anyway, it seems DVB-S2 is not supported at all - any change to get that working?

There are a couple of aspects to DVB-S2:
One is the new modulation types like 8PSK which is not supported by the Unified Tuning Model interface but it might be possible to write code to enable the new modulation types in VLC.
Second is the MPEG-4 streams in DVB-S2. The BDA module does not do anything with the transport stream other than pass it on to the TS Demux so setting the right TS Demux parameters could enable the MPEG-4 stream to be received.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

1. Can someone give us a TS dump of those so we can support it DVB-s2 things?
2. How much those DVB-S2 card cost?

[VLC_help]

2. How much those DVB-S2 card cost?

New one can be bought for 60-80 dollars.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... Categories

[lilmale1]

help with ccam

i got a digistar dvb-s card that goes linux support from there page

but cant finds a way that supports ccam plugins
or a basic directory to do it would be good too

thanks