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Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby pseudo555 » 17 Sep 2008 19:13

Hello every one,

I would like to remove the new skin which comes with 0.9.2 (I find it really ugly, even if it's a lot of time to do it, and really not usser friendly - it took me over 5 minutes to find the rewin/fast forward feature ) in order to restore the classic one from 0.8.* branch :
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I think it's possible to revert, but i don't find the solution (without recreate an entire new skin).

So how can i restore the old theme ?

Thank's in advance
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby dionoea » 17 Sep 2008 21:25

It's not a theme. We used to use wxWidgets to build the default interface on windows and linux. Now we use Qt. You can try downloading the source code and building the wxWidgets interface if you want. Other than that you'll have to stick to the Qt interface (which is way easier to use than the old one).
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 17 Sep 2008 22:05

People have complained for years about the old interface (skipping not where we want, volume control not good, blabla) and now people complain again? graraa


What don't you like in the new one ?, which is very near the old one, btw....
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby pseudo555 » 17 Sep 2008 22:26

Personally ?
I find this is a "too much" :
- sound control is too big for me, the previous one is enough for me.
- Rewind & fast forward are too hidden for me,
- Icons use in preferences are too big.

Except theses things i think :
- The quality of the picture is poorer than previous build (it can be just an illusion)
- When you use full screen and want to get back, vlc use maximized windows, not original size (probably a bug )
- When I use skin, lot's of option from context menu disappear (probably a bug too)

I know this new skin (and lot's of other features) are a lot hour of works, and people always complain when changes appear.

A little talk (off topic) :
Some people likes "light feature", like the google webpage or the power of a shell, other likes to have a beautiful design like igoogle or vista... Like differences between office 2003 and 2007 (on the GUI only).
In my case, i think the previous interface was sufficient : everything was clear and well defined.
But I know, this is a stupid behavior.

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby CloudStalker » 17 Sep 2008 23:42

Me kinda like the new interface and all, but CloudStalker thinks that it would be a big improvment if there were to be better intergration between the default interface and skins2. That way if user wanted larger/smaller buttons, ect, they could find or develope a skin that'll have those things and still retain the features and functions of the default interface.

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 18 Sep 2008 02:56

- If you want a lighter volume slider, just use the option to have a normal slider in the preferences.
- Rewind and fast might get an icon in next version but most USERS asked to REMOVE it, because it was confusing...
- Preferences? What kind of resolution do you have ?

- Picture quality is the same, except postprocessing
- Can't reproduce the maximized behaviour
- What do you miss?
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby 3breadt » 18 Sep 2008 08:01

If the preferences icons are too big for you just check "advanced preferences" and you'll have the old preferences layout.
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby pseudo555 » 18 Sep 2008 10:11

- If you want a lighter volume slider, just use the option to have a normal slider in the preferences.
If the preferences icons are too big for you just check "advanced preferences" and you'll have the old preferences layout.
Ok, i ll have a look tonight (i'm at work).
- Rewind and fast might get an icon in next version but most USERS asked to REMOVE it, because it was confusing...
(joke) So why these button are always on telecomand ?(/joke)
What kind of resolution do you have ?
i'm ussing 1280*800 on a laptop (HP - with amd 3500+ and ati xpress 200m)
Can't reproduce the maximized behaviour
I have this "bug" with flv and avi files. I don't test other format yet.

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby pseudo555 » 18 Sep 2008 18:37

- If you want a lighter volume slider, just use the option to have a normal slider in the preferences.
If the preferences icons are too big for you just check "advanced preferences" and you'll have the old preferences layout.
Ok, i ll have a look tonight (i'm at work).
Thank's for theses hints ;)
Can't reproduce the maximized behavior
I have this "bug" with flv and avi files. I don't test other format yet.
Try without integrate the video in the interface, i can easily reproduce this bug on a xp sp3 in a virtual pc (my laptop use xp sp3 too).

I notice some mistake in French translation (you probably can contact the person who can correct it):
- nombre d'images entre deux vérifications de mise à jour (replace 'image' by 'jour')
- politique de téléchargement des couvertures (replace 'couverture' by 'mise à jour')
I think you're probably not the translator, but you can contact him/her faster than me ;)

Another bug :
When I tickle the 'qt interface' box in interface/main interface, I can't restart vlc anymore without suppress its configuration files (application data/vlc/*)

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 19 Sep 2008 00:46

Can't reproduce the maximized behavior
I have this "bug" with flv and avi files. I don't test other format yet.
Try without integrate the video in the interface, i can easily reproduce this bug on a xp sp3 in a virtual pc (my laptop use xp sp3 too).
Without integration of video in interface is the issue. Ok.
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby pseudo555 » 19 Sep 2008 09:02

Yes, no problem if the video is intergarte to the player.

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 19 Sep 2008 19:13

Yes, no problem if the video is intergarte to the player.
ok.
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby slythfox » 21 Sep 2008 07:10

I think the real issue (for people like me) is how to port 0.8.x skins to 0.9.2. I want to use my "Blended" skin. :x

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 21 Sep 2008 07:16

What is wrong with it?
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby 3breadt » 21 Sep 2008 12:07

I think the real issue (for people like me) is how to port 0.8.x skins to 0.9.2. I want to use my "Blended" skin. :x
For me the "Blended" skin works as it should, I guess. The playlist and equalizer windows miss, because you didn't add them in the skin as far as I can see it.
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby GiPiKay » 22 Sep 2008 03:21

- If you want a lighter volume slider, just use the option to have a normal slider in the preferences.
Where EXACTLY is that option? I've searched in all options, simple and advanced, but I can't find it

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 22 Sep 2008 03:48

Preferences=>All=>Interface=>Main Interfaces=>Qt
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby GiPiKay » 22 Sep 2008 03:56

Preferences=>All=>Interface=>Main Interfaces=>Qt
Damn, don't know why but when I do that, all the program goes wrong and I have to reset all settings

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 22 Sep 2008 04:21

What ?
Go to Preferences=>All=>Interface=>Main Interfaces=>Qt in the left pane, in the right, uncheck "non-native..."
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby GiPiKay » 22 Sep 2008 04:40

What ?
Go to Preferences=>All=>Interface=>Main Interfaces=>Qt in the left pane, in the right, uncheck "non-native..."
Thanks, that did the trick.
I was doing other thing, checking "QT Interface" on "Main Interface", but i did the right one now

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby snake eyes » 08 Oct 2008 14:35

so is no one going to MAKE a skin like the old 0.8.* looking VLC??

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby 3breadt » 08 Oct 2008 17:52

the old interface is NOT a skin. You can't make a skin that imitates exactly the old interface.
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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby snake eyes » 10 Oct 2008 18:21

O_O ok...you can TOTALLY change the look of the player but u cant make a skin that looks like the old player.....I find that HARD to believe

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby neverneverland » 22 Oct 2008 23:06

I much prefer the 0.8.* skin. It may seem a little minimalistic the first time you use it but then you get the logic of it. It works well as a default out-of-box skin. It's neat and unclunky. Personally I use VLC for a number of awkward video formats and for some streaming. For those uses, it's nice to have an unintrusive interface.

I recommend that the VLC team switches back to this interface and skin for their 1.0 release. Do a vote on it if you want. I don't like the new skin too much - I've reverted back to 0.8.* and will stick with it if the new ugly skin is kept in new versions.

Also wxWidgets looks and performs way better than Qt on Windows.

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Re: Old skin (classic 0.8.*) on new version (0.9.2)

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 25 Oct 2008 04:49

I recommend that the VLC team switches back to this interface and skin for their 1.0 release.
No way. Sorry.
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