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Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

Postby MetalheadGautham » 14 May 2008 01:35

The current forum script, PHPBB. is quite low on features compared to others. Can we switch to MyBB, a feature rich, light weight, easy to use and free bulletin board software ?
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 14 May 2008 02:50

How is phpBB 3 low on features... :shock::
http://www.phpbb.com/about/features/compare.php

Albeit the Comparison is on the phpBB site, it does still provides a fairly comprehensive comparison with IPB, vBulletin and SMF.

Also MyBB is, although freeware, not open source.

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 14 May 2008 05:55

And this is the first reason that we won't use MyBB...
Moreover there are no good scripts for phpBB to MyBB using Pgsql databases migrations.
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby MetalheadGautham » 14 May 2008 12:43

lets see:

1. are you able to retain PhpBB settings over to a new version on upgrading ?
2. what about the fact that PHPBB is insecure compared to others ?
3. does phpBB have Quick Reply ?
4. can phpBB automatically merge double posts, and concider updates to a post as a new post and bring the thread to the top ?
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 14 May 2008 13:43

1. are you able to retain PhpBB settings over to a new version on upgrading ?
From what I can see the phpBB3 converter is not complete. Also this forum is, as j-b said, running with PosgreSQL which (could) cause further issue since MyBB is MySQL only.
2. what about the fact that PHPBB is insecure compared to others ?
Agreed phpBB3 is quite a target for spammers etc. due to it's popularity. This can be improved by e.g. changing the CAPTCHA and adding in additional text validation. The Wine HQ forum reportedly did this:
http://www.winehq.org/?issue=341#Status ... e%20Forums
3. does phpBB have Quick Reply ?
No. The VideoLAN servers are pretty fast though so wouldn't improve the speed greatly. Also there are a couple of mods such as eviL<3's Quick Reply mod and Handyman's AJAX Quick Reply mod.
4. can phpBB automatically merge double posts, and concider updates to a post as a new post and bring the thread to the top ?
A bump interval can be set - i.e. the amount of time before the same user can post again/bump the topic.

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 14 May 2008 19:00

I am willing to add any good plugins you want. List them.

I am NOT willing to use MySQL over PGsql.

Moreover, we don't get many spammers since the move to phpBB3
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby MetalheadGautham » 16 May 2008 13:51

I am willing to add any good plugins you want. List them.

I am NOT willing to use MySQL over PGsql.

Moreover, we don't get many spammers since the move to phpBB3
please add the quick reply and multiquote plugins
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 16 May 2008 16:50

multiquote plugins
What do you mean by multiquote plugin? Do you mean "ticking" several quotes like in IPB, which then automatically adds them to the reply posting box?

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 16 May 2008 18:42

I am willing to add any good plugins you want. List them.

I am NOT willing to use MySQL over PGsql.

Moreover, we don't get many spammers since the move to phpBB3
please add the quick reply and multiquote plugins
Links to the plugins ?
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 16 May 2008 23:02

The Quick Reply mod links posted above:
Also there are a couple of mods such as eviL<3's Quick Reply mod and Handyman's AJAX Quick Reply mod.
From what I can see the one made by evil<3 looks nice and simple.

The Ajax one by Handyman requires evil<3's quick reply mod too (as far as I know adding functionality via Ajax so that the page doesn't need to be reloaded to display the post), however the Ajax mod will not work with the latest Evil quick reply mods - need to be earlier than the RC1/2/3 release version (so perhaps this one).

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 May 2008 08:18

I did install the quick reply MOD. It doesn't show. The MOD installation system is horrible...
I don't think I will loose my time on it.
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 29 May 2008 13:55

Agreed installing mods isn't that nice generally - a pain after updating too. I don't think the Quick Reply would greatly improve the forum either.

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 May 2008 18:49

Well, I have to disagree from an administrator point of view. Quick Reply means less accesses on this server.

It is installed now, but it doesn't show...
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 29 May 2008 19:47

Fair enough - which mod did you install and did you refresh the prosilver Template and Theme cache?

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 May 2008 19:53

evil quick reply.

I did cleaned the cache, yes.
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 29 May 2008 21:33

Right well I've just got it working for prosilver (version 1.0.1 from here).

In the "install.xml" file the modified files which need to be changed and uploaded are:
  • viewtopic.php
  • includes/acp/acp_language.php
  • includes/acp/acp_styles.php
  • language/en/common.php
  • language/en/acp/styles.php
And the new *.php file which need to be uploaded is includes/functions_quick_reply.php, found in:
  • root/includes/functions_quick_reply.php
That only changes the main PHP, the prosilver and/or subsilver2 styles need to be modified to display the mod too so, for prosilver, in the "templates/prosilver.xml" file there are more instructions for modifying the prosilver template. The files needing modification are:
  • styles/prosilver/imageset/en/imageset.cfg
  • styles/prosilver/template/viewtopic_body.html
  • styles/prosilver/theme/buttons.css
  • styles/prosilver/theme/colours.css
And the new files to be uploaded are:
  • styles/prosilver/imageset/en/button_quick_reply.gif
  • styles/prosilver/template/posting_qr_body.html
Which are found in:
  • templates/prosilver/imageset/en/button_quick_reply.gif
  • templates/prosilver/template/posting_qr_body.html
After uploading all the new and modified files, refresh the cache for the Imageset, Template and Theme for prosilver and it should work.

The styles set can also be changed for subsilver2 if anyone uses that, however the default is prosilver so unlikely that many users are using subsilver2.

EDIT: Further modifications can be made to get smilies and BBCode for Quick Reply.

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 30 May 2008 00:20

I have done all that :D
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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 30 May 2008 02:05

Well only thing I can think of is that the prosilver styles have not been refreshed since had the viewtopic_body.html template been updated the quick reply button/quick-reply-icon class should be there after the reply-icon div class. Also ".quick-reply-icon span" should be in the style.php CSS (derived from stylesheet.css etc.).

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby Arite » 30 May 2008 16:31

OK, the quick-reply-icon class etc. is there in the template and theme etc. - from what I can see everything else is in place for prosilver.

For refreshing the Template go to:
ACP >> Styles >> Template

And select "Refresh" for prosilver.

For the Theme and Imageset the same needs to be done.

The image_site_logo is assigned to forum_cone.png (which doesn't exist).The current image is forum_cone2.png so after refreshing the prosilver imageset the Site Logo would have been re-assigned to forum_cone2.png for it to be displayed.

If all of those things were done and you reassigned the Site Logo to forum_cone2.png then I can't see why it is not displaying.

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Re: Can We Switch to MyBB ?

Postby MetalheadGautham » 09 Jun 2008 10:03

Hey j-b, how about SMF instead of PhpBB ?
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Re: Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

Postby Arite » 09 Jun 2008 18:52

SMF is a good forum package (I still prefer phpBB though), however it goes against the GNU philosohpy/free software since the license for e.g. redistribution is restrictive and SMF are given the right to change the agreement at any time.

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Re: Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

Postby MetalheadGautham » 14 Jun 2008 22:09

SMF is a good forum package (I still prefer phpBB though), however it goes against the GNU philosohpy/free software since the license for e.g. redistribution is restrictive and SMF are given the right to change the agreement at any time.

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Re: Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 03 Nov 2008 16:18

Quick Reply is in.
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Re: Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

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Re: Is PhpBB functional enough for this forum ?

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 11 Jun 2009 12:38

You are obviously on the wrong forum.
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