Postby Philgoy » 12 Jul 2004 22:27
Thanks a lot about your answers,
I agree with you about the new formats. You are right, but my discontent comes from both Sony and myself. Sony for launched the project in such a lousy way. Starting a new format is risky and expensive. To have the Mac community behind would have helped as Mac folks are obviously ready to spend more for what they think is better and nicer technology. To have a decent and debugged editing software for Windows would have helped a lot. To have a lossless file converter from MMV to DV on both platform would have been a decent thing to do.
To me, Sony just showed off with DCR-IPs and MMV. Car makers build “concept cars” once a year to demonstrate their advanced skills, but they do not sell the cars to the public. Well, Sony just did that.
I have a lot of Sony products at home and have been increasingly disappointed. It looks like it went from a technology driven company to a marketing company. Actually, I am going to write a resignation letter (as a customer) to Sony Europe.
But I have also discontent with myself. I trusted Sony way too much. I could not believe they would not do what it takes to make the format stick.
I might buy some more MMV tapes. However, I might get a regular DV cam instead. The cheapest way to store films is on tape. If my IP7 dies, then all my tapes will too, unless everything taped is burned on DVD which is impossible to me now, or all MMV files at least are saved on DVD-Rs just in case someone in the future does something. I will not be able to play these MMV tapes anywhere. Do you have any idea about how many IP cameras have been sold worldwide ?
Technical Points
I am still trying to use MovieShaker 3.1.1 on PC with no luck. I can import the MMV files, make a “movie”, play it on the PC, but cannot export it, whatever the format I try, including feeding back the movie to tape, the sound is terribly murky. The music added to the movie from a mp3 file is fine. It is the video clip soundtrack which does not export properly. I tried on a Sony VAIO DeskTop P4 3 GHz, 512 Mb, Win XP, QuickTime 6.5. I am waiting for an answer from Sony “Tech Support” on this.
I have read the all “MPEG TS” thread and found it very interesting.
- I have not tried your import methods as I could import from the poor MovieShaker on PC. Are the .m2t files you get the same as the .mmv you get with MovieShaker on PCs ?
- I have tried the trial version of DropDV on a twin 866 MHz G4 for MMV files imported from MovieShaker on PC and successfully imported the DV files in iMovie 4. However, I find the quality too poor to qualify.
- I would be very interested in a solution to get DV files out of MMV files without loss of quality. What are your settings in VLC ?
PG