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Posted: **26 Aug 2008 02:33**

here are a list of features that you shold look in to supporting

General

Share files with iTunes users
(DAAP client/server)

Proxy authorization support
via pop-up username and password dialog.

Always On Top for individual windows

Album Art window

Mass download Album Art for multiple albums at same time

Save embedded Album Art (in file tags)

Full Unicode Support

Playlist Editor

'Physically Delete Files from Disk' Accelerator Key (shortcut/hotkey)

Jump to track number option

Tabbed playlists

Columns for Artist, Album, Title

option to pad playlist numbers with zeros, eg. 0001 - 1000

Hide username:password@ for url's in playlist

Playback

Native MonkeysAudio (APE) and Musepack (MPC) support

Streaming https/ssl support

IPv6 support

FTP streaming support

Support for spaces in url's, ie. no need for %20 (auto-urlencoding)

Input Plugins

in_cdda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio

FreeDB support

Import/export CDDB entries from/to cdplayer.ini
For in_cdda.

in_mp3

ID3 v2.4

Lyrics3 2.0 writing (http://www.id3.org/Lyrics3v2)

APE v2 tags support

QTSS streaming support

Changeable editor font for the File Info box

Save Ratings and Playcounts to ID3v2 tags (POPM and PCNT frames)

in_mp4

More configuration implemented (eg. buffers, priority, etc)

in_flac

FLAC Streaming Support

in_flv

h.263 support (for playback of e.g. youtube flv) *

Calculate/display Bitrate and Length, etc *

in_vorbis

Video support (Theora/OGV, OGM, etc)

.OGA extension support

Ogg Flac and Speex support

Streaming metadata support

Video

Brightness and Contrast controls

Custom zoom / pan & scan options

No minimize option when Winamp minimized

Controls in the video window

Modern Skins support this

Native subtitle/.srt support

Counter in full screen OSD

Customizable/Skinable OSD

Disable/bypass EQ and DSP effects on Video playback

Hotkeys to move video forward/back to manually fix desync issues

Video screenshots - save current frame as jpeg/png

Force fullscreen to go on monitor X

Video as desktop (like milkdrop)

Media Library: General

Customizable metadata detection mode!
A 4th 'Custom' option where you can specify e.g. "artist - album - ## - title" from filenames

Winshade Mode

Option to use Mozilla (or other default browser) for Now Playing

Ability to rearrange/remove main categories in left pane

Folding/cascading trees/sub-menus/folder views in left pane

"Add To Library" file/folder context menu items

Mass Tagging

Media Library: Playlists

Sort playlists list in left pane alphabetically etc
eg. right click sort options

Mass export of playlists to selected folder

Separate title format string for media library playlists

Columns for Artist, Album, Title, etc, like in Local Media views

Track and automatically fix dead links

Media Library: Local Media Views

Mass ID3 stripping

File/encoder type tab in Media Library
Show something like "mp3, wav, ogg, avi."
Maybe more specific like "divx, xvid, mpeg2, etc"

Sub queries, have a query under a query

listen to songs from ml without adding to playlist

Move/copy/rename files using the media library

A way to identify and/or filter duplicate songs (with different filenames)

Column for 'Original Artist' or URL from ID3v2 tag

Columns/Support for Conductor, Mood, Compilation (TCMP)
(insert any other custom fields here)

Export a view directly to a playlist file

Option to limit the number of results shown for a query

Media Library

ReplayGain: option to exclude files already containing rg info from rescan

ReplayGain: Edit / Clear RG info

Mass Autotagger: Select/edit specific fields in Results dialog before updating

Media Library: Podcasts

More download options (specify naming convention, etc)

Set/limit number of simultaneous subscription update downloads

Prompt if closing Kantaris whilst podcasts are still downloading/updating

Pause/Resume downloads

Media Library: Portable Device Support

Album art support for devices

Encoders (CD Ripping / Transcoding)

Options for Original, Copyrighted, Private and CRC in MP3 Encoder settings

Single-file ripping mode

MPEG-1 Layer 2 (.MP2) Encoder

Song ticker scrolling wraps

Save multiple window layout presets

Show playlist item numbers in playlist window shade

Same spectrum analyzer options

Scroll buttons in playlist window

Global Hotkey for Notification works even if Notifier is disabled in config

Easy Move when dragging the video area of Video window, like it does in Winamp

Easy Move can be disabled for Video Window (unchecking it currently does nothing)

AlbumArt in Notifier

Vertically resizable main player area

Options to hide MCV Info Pane / tabs / etc

Options to detach playback/trailer/other windows

Options to add/edit/remove tabs or rearrange windows/components

Option to use Mozilla/Gecko (or other default browser) for Browser

Other

Burn MP3/audio music/ISO CDs

Write CD-Text

Paranoia/secure ripping mode

Posted: **26 Aug 2008 04:54**

anything

Posted: **26 Aug 2008 18:26**

Most of those are implemented ...

Posted: **27 Aug 2008 02:39**

what is not implemented

Posted: **27 Aug 2008 12:16**

I don't think anyone wants to recreate part of the list that is implemented and what is not.

Burn MP3/audio music/ISO CDs
Write CD-Text
Paranoia/secure ripping mode

Won't happen unless someone comes up with multiplatform disc burning/reading solution.

Option to use Mozilla/Gecko (or other default browser) for Browser

Where in VLC you use internet browser?

Posted: **05 Sep 2008 17:36**

I would definitely love to see APE and MPC support.
Or maybe they are already implemented? Last time I've checked (v0.7.x or something) Musepack files were not played.
~

Posted: **06 Sep 2008 00:52**

Already done.

Posted: **06 Sep 2008 14:45**

I would definitely love to see APE and MPC support.

Already done.

APE files don't play in v0.9.2-preview2 (tested on Windows XP only).

For instance this sample gives no sound at all and VLC crashes after a while:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/monkeyaudio/sh3.ape

Log:

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main debug: starting new item
main debug: processing request item E:/Temp/sh3.ape node null skip 0
main debug: resyncing on E:/Temp/sh3.ape
main debug: E:/Temp/sh3.ape is at 0
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
main debug: waiting for thread initialization
main debug: thread started
main debug: thread 5048 (input) created at priority 1 (../../src/input/input.c:367)
main debug: `E:/Temp/sh3.ape' gives access `' demux `' path `E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
qt4 debug: Updating the stream status: 3
main debug: creating demux: access='' demux='' path='E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for access_demux module: 1 candidate
main debug: creating access '' path='E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for access module: 5 candidates
vcd debug: trying .cue file: E:/Temp/sh3.cue
vcd debug: could not find .cue file
access_file debug: opening file `E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
main debug: using access module "access_file"
main debug: Using AStream*Stream
main debug: pre-buffering...
main debug: received first data for our buffer
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1103
qt4 debug: Updating the stream status: 2
main debug: pre-buffering done 1408981 bytes in 0s - 1375958007 kbytes/s
main debug: creating demux: access='' demux='' path='E:/Temp/sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for demux module: 51 candidates
avformat debug: detected format: ape
main debug: selecting program id=0
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1108
avformat debug: adding es: audio codec = APE 
avformat debug: AVFormat supported stream
avformat debug:     - format = ape (Monkey's Audio)
avformat debug:     - start time = 0
avformat debug:     - duration = 15665374
main debug: using demux module "avformat"
main debug: looking for a subtitle file in C:\Utils\VLC\
main debug: looking for decoder module: 34 candidates
avcodec debug: libavcodec initialized (interface 3358464 )
avcodec warning: Physical channel configuration not set : guessing
avcodec debug: ffmpeg codec (Monkey's Audio) started
main debug: using decoder module "avcodec"
main debug: thread 5240 (decoder) created at priority 2 (../../src/input/decoder.c:217)
main debug: `E:/Temp/sh3.ape' successfully opened
main debug: thread started
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1103
qt4 debug: Updating the stream status: 3
main debug: control type=1
main debug: EOF reached
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty
main debug: waiting decoder fifos to empty

But it's playing fine in MPlayer and in Goldwave.

Posted: **09 Sep 2008 00:18**

I would definitely love to see APE and MPC support.
Already done.
APE files don't play in v0.9.2-preview2 (tested on Windows XP only).

For instance this sample gives no sound at all and VLC crashes after a while:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/monkeyaudio/sh3.ape

With the same (v0.9.2-preview2 ) version Musepack is supported, but only sv7. It seems, that currently only Foobar2000 supports sv8, but it too superfluous for my daily needs

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Posted: **09 Sep 2008 00:43**

Musepack SV8 is still in beta (not that should change the decision to implement it much):
http://forum.musepack.net/showthread.php?t=395

For instance this sample gives no sound at all and VLC crashes after a while:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/monkeyaudio/sh3.ape

Sample works with Debian sid nightly. Have you tried the latest nightly with it?

Arite.

Posted: **11 Sep 2008 00:58**

I would definitely love to see APE and MPC support.
Already done.
APE files don't play in v0.9.2-preview2 (tested on Windows XP only).

For instance this sample gives no sound at all and VLC crashes after a while:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/monkeyaudio/sh3.ape
...
But it's playing fine in MPlayer and in Goldwave.

It appeared that MPlayer also can play Musepack sv8 files (at least the Mulder's build from 2008-09-03).
Thank you, Lotesdelere, for mentioning of that player

Posted: **11 Sep 2008 01:42**

Sample works with Debian sid nightly. Have you tried the latest nightly with it?

Yep I've tried with the nightly and also RC1 build from JB. Both crash when trying to play this file on Windows XP.

Posted: **11 Sep 2008 02:15**

Yes, the "sh3.ape" sample does crach with 0.9.2-rc1 on Windows XP. Here's the log:

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main debug: adding item `sh3.ape' ( H:\Temp\sh3.ape )
main debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
main debug: rebuild done - 1 items, index -1
main debug: starting new item
main debug: processing request item sh3.ape node null skip 0
main debug: resyncing on sh3.ape
main debug: sh3.ape is at 0
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'sh3.ape'
main debug: thread started
main debug: waiting for thread initialization
main debug: `H:\Temp\sh3.ape' gives access `' demux `' path `H:\Temp\sh3.ape'
main debug: thread 5140 (input) created at priority 1 (../../src/input/input.c:368)
qt4 debug: Updating the stream status: 3
main debug: creating demux: access='' demux='' path='H:\Temp\sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for access_demux module: 1 candidate
main debug: TIMER module_Need() : 0.847 ms - Total 0.847 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 0.847 ms)
main debug: creating access '' path='H:\Temp\sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for access module: 5 candidates
vcd debug: trying .cue file: H:\Temp\sh3.cue
vcd debug: could not find .cue file
access_file debug: opening file `H:\Temp\sh3.ape'
main debug: using access module "access_file"
main debug: TIMER module_Need() : 0.852 ms - Total 0.852 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 0.852 ms)
main debug: Using AStream*Stream
main debug: pre-buffering...
main debug: received first data for our buffer
main debug: pre-buffering done 1408981 bytes in 0s - 624017 kbytes/s
main debug: creating demux: access='' demux='' path='H:\Temp\sh3.ape'
main debug: looking for demux module: 51 candidates
avformat debug: detected format: ape
main debug: selecting program id=0
avformat debug: adding es: audio codec = APE 
avformat debug: AVFormat supported stream
avformat debug:     - format = ape (Monkey's Audio)
avformat debug:     - start time = 0
avformat debug:     - duration = 15665374
main debug: using demux module "avformat"
main debug: TIMER module_Need() : 26.997 ms - Total 26.997 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 26.997 ms)
main debug: looking for a subtitle file in H:\Temp\
main debug: looking for decoder module: 35 candidates
avcodec debug: libavcodec initialized (interface 3360512 )
avcodec warning: Physical channel configuration not set : guessing
avcodec debug: ffmpeg codec (Monkey's Audio) started
main debug: using decoder module "avcodec"
main debug: TIMER module_Need() : 9.886 ms - Total 9.886 ms / 1 intvls (Avg 9.886 ms)
main debug: thread started
main debug: thread 5228 (decoder) created at priority 2 (../../src/input/decoder.c:217)
main debug: `H:\Temp\sh3.ape' successfully opened
audioscrobbler debug: No artist..
main debug: control type=1
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1103
qt4 debug: Updating the stream status: 3
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1108
qt4 debug: New Event: type 1103

Arite.

Posted: **11 Sep 2008 02:20**

I would definitely love to see APE and MPC support.
Already done.
APE files don't play in v0.9.2-preview2 (tested on Windows XP only).

For instance this sample gives no sound at all and VLC crashes after a while:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/monkeyaudio/sh3.ape
...
But it's playing fine in MPlayer and in Goldwave.
It appeared that MPlayer also can play Musepack sv8 files (at least the Mulder's build from 2008-09-03).
Thank you, Lotesdelere, for mentioning of that player

Using non-open source codec. Beeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuurk. Happy spyware for you.

Posted: **11 Sep 2008 03:41**

Using non-open source codec. Beeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuurk. Happy spyware for you.

Erm nope, MPlayer is using FFmpeg/libavcodec for playing Monkey's Audio .APE files and Musepack .MPC files:

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ID_FILENAME=E:\Temp\sh3.ape
ID_DEMUXER=lavf
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=APE
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=44100
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_LENGTH=15.67
ID_SEEKABLE=1
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 0.0 kbit/0.00% (ratio: 0->176400)
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=44100
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
Selected audio codec: [ffape] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Monkey's Audio decoder)
==========================================================================
AO: [dsound] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=ffape
Video: no video
Starting playback...


ID_FILENAME=E:\Test\VLC\09 - No woman, no cry.mpc
ID_DEMUXER=lavfpref
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=MPC
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=44100
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_LENGTH=218.12
ID_SEEKABLE=1
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 0.0 kbit/0.00% (ratio: 0->176400)
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=0
ID_AUDIO_RATE=44100
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
Selected audio codec: [ffmusepack7] afm: ffmpeg (Musepack sv7 audio codec)
==========================================================================
AO: [dsound] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=ffmusepack7
Video: no video
Starting playback...

Current builds of VLC can actually play SV7 Musepack files but not SV8.
All APE files I've tried are crashing VLC.

Posted: **21 Sep 2008 22:21**

...
All APE files I've tried are crashing VLC.

Confirmed with latest nightly build (vlc-0.9.3-git-20080921-0254-win32) and ape files encoded with three versions of MAC, 3.97, 3.99 and 4.01.

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AppName: vlc.exe	 AppVer: 0.9.3.99	 ModName: libavcodec_plugin.dll
ModVer: 0.0.0.0	 Offset: 0002130f

Posted: **11 Nov 2008 10:17**

Latest build (0.9.7) is capable of playing APE already.
Not MPC SV8 yet. Strange, because it seems that VLC use one and the same library as Mplayer.
Anyhow.

Posted: **11 Nov 2008 11:54**

Windows VLC decoding features are usually little behind of other ones because contribs issues are usually more complicated on Windows.

Posted: **11 Nov 2008 12:39**

Not MPC SV8 yet. Strange, because it seems that VLC use one and the same library as Mplayer.

Because SV8 is not considered as stable upstream.

Posted: **20 Nov 2008 01:59**

Musepack SV8 is still in beta (not that should change the decision to implement it much):
http://forum.musepack.net/showthread.php?t=395
Arite.

Actually, the format is already finalized, as one can see here.
The only feature still in beta status is CT (chapter tag) and I suppose it will stay like this until there is at least one player capable of using chapter tags.
Anyhow, this is not a mandatory field for the standart, so a player could be MPC SV8 compliant even if it does not support chapter tags.
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Posted: **20 Nov 2008 08:46**

http://trac.musepack.net/trac/wiki/SV8S ... version=44

This changed 8 days ago from beta to final...

Posted: **02 Mar 2009 01:46**

Well, Musepack SV8 is officially announced already.
http://forum.musepack.net/showthread.php?t=578

Posted: **02 Mar 2009 10:34**

Does it need a new library and API or does the old API work?

Posted: **04 Mar 2009 13:20**

New library - I guess yes, about API - I don't have a clue. I'm not a developer, unfortunately.
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Posted: **06 Mar 2009 22:16**

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