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The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 01:54
by cxn
Hello devs!
Current volume bar is very naughty -- behavior can be more intuitive and user friendly.

Please
(1) make the volume bar in the default skin scalable (liquid)
(2) force current volume to display in one solid block (not the default green blocks)
(3) change the look when muting

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Thanks for the great player
-Antti P.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 03:44
by CloudStalker
Well I don't know if you know this but the picture is cut off so we can't even see your alternative. :P Aside from that the volume slider has already been changed in the development builds. Who knows, it may undergo even further changes. :)

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:00
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
No the volume bar in the development version is definitive. It might become smaller, but that is it.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:02
by CloudStalker
Oh, never mind then.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:12
by cxn
the picture is cut off so we can't even see your alternative
What do you mean by "cut of''? There should be 4 vlc-windows: 2 before and 2 after in the gif.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:17
by CloudStalker
Maybe it's just my computer. I use Firefox and this isn't the only time pictures have been cut off. Here's how it looks for CloudStalker:

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Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:20
by cxn
2 CloudStalker: Strange. I will move image to a different host. Wait 30sec :)

UPDATE: image was rehosted

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:39
by CloudStalker
Nah, didn't work so it must be my computer. Oh well, such is the way it goes for CloudStalker. :roll:

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:43
by cxn
I've checked the latest builds and the new volume bar is definetely better than old default bar.

Default GUI has changed for better from 0.8.6 which I am using now.

There volume bar can still be improved slightly in the new version:
the color of the volume triangle can change to lightgray when I press 'mute' so the current muted volume is visible.

2 CloudStalker: Here is a direct link http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/bc68fb476a.gif

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 04:47
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Yes, you are right, it could be better, however, it is more complex, and not priority. Fill a feature request in trac, please.

I am pleased to know that you prefer this bar from the older one.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 17 Jan 2008 23:14
by joseph5
(2) force current volume to display in one solid block (not the default green blocks)
That's probably an XP problem, because in Windows 2000 it's displayed in a solid block.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 17 Jan 2008 23:46
by cxn
That's probably an XP problem, because in Windows 2000 it's displayed in a solid block.
I really don't care if it is an XP problem. There is really no good reason to use progress bar to change volume. Newest volume bar is better but it too has major flaws (e.g. draging volume outside the bar).

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 18 Jan 2008 00:45
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
That's probably an XP problem, because in Windows 2000 it's displayed in a solid block.
I really don't care if it is an XP problem. There is really no good reason to use progress bar to change volume. Newest volume bar is better but it too has major flaws (e.g. draging volume outside the bar).
I disagree it has major flaws.
Draging volume outside the bar is normal. Why so ? Because it consider that if you drag the slider and keep it drag away, this is because you didn't want it.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 18 Jan 2008 01:18
by cxn
Draging volume outside the bar is normal. Why so ? Because it consider that if you drag the slider and keep it drag away, this is because you didn't want it.
Ok, I see your point. However the most intuitive way to increase volume to the maximum is to click volume bar and drag it outside the windows to the right. Same thing with decreasing: point to the volume bar, click and drag outside volume bar to the left. I clicked on the volume bar so why vlc assumes I didn't want it?

Also draging shouldn't be limited vertically. 0.8.6 works well in this fashion and e.g all major products from Adobe

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 18 Jan 2008 05:37
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Well, I can extend the range a bit.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 18 Jan 2008 07:19
by cxn
Well, I can extend the range a bit.
Nice :) It would be awesome if the range would equal screen size.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 18 Jan 2008 08:02
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Is this really that annoying ? I have your point of view, but I would like others....

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 19 Jan 2008 00:45
by cxn
Is this really that annoying ? I have your point of view, but I would like others....
Check draging for yourself in Windows MediaPlayer, Quicktime, Photoshop, Volume Control

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 19 Jan 2008 03:49
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Sorry to say that those are NOT good examples of what we should do.

Re: The most annoying behavior of the volume bar

Posted: 19 Jan 2008 03:50
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Moreover, If I clic on the volume bar and change my mind, If I drag outside, I keep the same volume level, which is good.