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Real Media

Posted: 15 Dec 2003 08:03
by VLC User
Any chances that real media variable bitrate (rmvb) formats will be supported by VLC? That way I can get rid of the awful real media player. :?

Posted: 16 Dec 2003 10:26
by Murray
There is no open source codec for Real Media at present time. Therefore, Real Media support is not among the upcoming features of VLC.

Posted: 16 Dec 2003 13:11
by The DJ
Actually some very old versions of Real will be available in VLC in the direct future. But it's pretty outdated stuff.

Posted: 16 Dec 2003 22:35
by Guest
"Real Alternative will allow you to play RealMedia files. This way you can play RealMedia files without having to install RealPlayer/RealOne Player. You do need a player that is capable of playing RealMedia. The included Media Player Classic supports it and works very well. Supported: RealAudio (.ra .rpm), RealMedia (.rm .ram .rmvb .rpx .smi .smil), RealText (.rt), ReadPix (.rp), RealMedia embedded in webpages. .smi and .smil files sometimes only play the first part of a clip. This is a limitation of the current Media Player Classic. The RealMedia Browser plugin supports Internet Explorer, Opera, Netscape and Mozilla. "

This is called real Alternative(I think 1.11 is the most recent one).
How about using this codec for the videolan??

Posted: 15 Jan 2004 21:15
by Guest
Hmm why is no one answering.

Posted: 16 Jan 2004 22:54
by Gibalou
I suppose this stuff is highly Windows centric ?

Posted: 19 Jan 2004 22:27
by Guest
so?

Posted: 20 Jan 2004 03:31
by The DJ
so that makes it pretty useless for Mac OS X and linux, ergo VLC has no place for it.

Posted: 23 Jan 2004 09:39
by dufour.emmanuel
I tried the following test:
searching the keys "video" and "rtsp" with google, I found a list list of 50 "real time URL" (RTSP, MMS) in several countries (it, no, edu, asia, net, com , fr, dk ...) served by 30 different servers.
I found more than 50% files which contain rm format !!
This number is also under estimated because it represents 60% of the servers streaming format !!

Emmanuel DUFOUR.

Posted: 08 Feb 2004 18:34
by Guest
where's written that that the versions for the different platforms must include the same features?

Posted: 08 Feb 2004 19:09
by Sigmund
There is no such rule, in fact there are quite a few cases where some feature exists only for one platform. But no vlc developer whould volunteer to do a lot of work that is only available to windows

Posted: 08 Feb 2004 22:47
by The DJ
And that would be because most developers don't use windows.

Posted: 25 Feb 2004 02:20
by sg1efc
I think VLC is really awesome! I'm seeing more & more movie files in the RMVB format. Hopefully in the future, VLC will be able to play this format also. Great program...... I think a lot of people would like to have just One Single media player instead of 2 or 3 or so. I know I do. I keep telling people about VLC. :) Thanks!

Posted: 18 Mar 2004 19:55
by 5442378
vlc is the best

i always use it

Posted: 08 Apr 2004 20:30
by dudeman456
"Real Alternative will allow you to play RealMedia files. This way you can play RealMedia files without having to install RealPlayer/RealOne Player. You do need a player that is capable of playing RealMedia. The included Media Player Classic supports it and works very well. Supported: RealAudio (.ra .rpm), RealMedia (.rm .ram .rmvb .rpx .smi .smil), RealText (.rt), ReadPix (.rp), RealMedia embedded in webpages. .smi and .smil files sometimes only play the first part of a clip. This is a limitation of the current Media Player Classic. The RealMedia Browser plugin supports Internet Explorer, Opera, Netscape and Mozilla. "

This is called real Alternative(I think 1.11 is the most recent one).
How about using this codec for the videolan??
Real Alternative installs dlls that a regular installation of Real Player would install, in fact if you look in your Program Files, you'll find folders as if you would have installed Real Player. You can play Real Media files with Media Player Classic by installing Real Player as well.

Mplayer for Linux uses windows dlls to play Real Media, very well I might add, Mplayer is also availible for windows with a codec pack download, just like VLC, it keeps its codecs seperate from the windows codecs. Mplayer is also availible for the MacOS.

Posted: 10 Apr 2004 03:12
by The DJ
VLC cannot use windows dll's because it would violate the license under which our code was created. Also remember that watching Real with Mplayer under MacOSX won't work either.

Posted: 10 Apr 2004 05:27
by dudeman456
My comments we're for information purposes, I was not recommending that the VLC team use the same methods as other groups, as I like how the VLC has implemented their codecs, VLC is my preferred media player. Thank You

Posted: 11 Apr 2004 17:13
by VLC User
I'm a member active from MacBidouille, a great website/forum for OSx Users!
We all want, VLC can play the MKV container with the Real codecs!
Please add this features on the head of your lists!
It would be the only way to play Real Mkv video file!

Sorry for my english!
(I'm a frenchie)
My mail:
nicolas.villard@isuisse.com

Posted: 12 Apr 2004 21:14
by The DJ
There will NOT be Real for VLC. It is impossible.

Hmm?

Posted: 13 Apr 2004 00:00
by dudeman456
Why do you think it is impossible?

Posted: 13 Apr 2004 14:30
by The DJ
Because it would violate the license under which all our code is written.

Posted: 13 Apr 2004 20:52
by dudeman456
But does'nt it play Divx files, and MP3s?

Posted: 13 Apr 2004 22:07
by The DJ
Yes. I don't see your point.

The codecs Real used are not available under a GPL compliant license. the codecs you mentioned are. VLC needs a GPL compliant version of a codec library to be able to support it.

Posted: 14 Apr 2004 11:26
by dudeman456
Both of the codecs I mention are registered to their relative company, and at one point or another the companies software was the only way you use their media, yet now so many things support mp3 and Divx. Just like the decoding of DVDs, now their is a driver you can use instead of application, that will allow any application to access the video data unencrpyted.I just think its possible that someone might(<---keyword) be able to create an open source codec for real media.

Posted: 15 Apr 2004 03:11
by The DJ
Yep, just don't count on it..