[Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

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[Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby caligari87 » 25 Aug 2016 00:47

Requesting because this is a feature I can't seem to find in any other mobile music players, and even if there is one I'd prefer to use VLC because I love it.

Very simply, I'd like the option to sort by multiple delimited values in a single tag. For example, I have an artist called "Kadenza" in my library. Kadenza did a song collab with Charmer. Thus, I have two entries in my Artists list: "Kazenda", and "Kadenza & Charmer". Here's the tags for that song:
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As you can see, there's a field for "Artists" which has the value "Kadenza / Charmer". What I'd like is the ability to leverage that field for sorting instead of just "Artist" or "Album Artist." That way, I can scroll through my library to find Kadenza, and all Kadenza songs will be there, or I could scroll to Charmer and find the track there as well.

It would also be nice to have the same for Genre. Again for example, I have songs with the tag "alternative / electronic". This feature would enable me to find those tracks under "alternative" and "electronic" instead of having situations where "alternative / electronic" is one genre and "electronic / alternative" is another.
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I guess this may also imply the option to select a "priority" for tags, in case a song doesn't have that tag it'll move on to "album artist" then "artist", for example. A fully-factored version of this feature might look something like an "advanced sort options" menu, where users can enter custom tags and delimiters (slash, colon, semicolon, "and", etc). for different library screens/tabs. Honestly that would be a dream come true for me; I don't think any mainstream music players or libraries have anything like it.
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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 Aug 2016 11:31

OK, we have registered this request.

Do you have samples of your audio library?
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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby caligari87 » 29 Aug 2016 16:04

Certainly. Are you basically needing a few tracks which demonstrate the issue? I can upload a zip file in a few hours, if so.
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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby caligari87 » 31 Aug 2016 06:41

Sorry for the wait. Here's a link to a zip file with four tracks I believe will exemplify the issue. Sorry for the large filesize, I like the higher-quality.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5t-s ... kEyellha00

The three Kadenza tracks illustrate common occurances for me: Album Artist field present, Album Artist missing (non-album track) and multiple artists. As noted, I think the Artists field (with custom delimiters and leading/trailing space truncation) would be a good choice for sorting tracks like these (falling back to Album Artist then Artist if fields are missing).

The fourth track from Aqua demonstrates the Genre issue. Again, custom delimiters (again with leading/trailing space truncation) would be great so a track can appear under multiple genres if present.

Related to this, after exploring some other media players (Blackplayer and Shuttle specificall) I think I've found some useful tidbits that would be great for VLC's library sorting/customization (such as enabling/disabling tabs, deeper sorting within tabs, etc) Can I suggest those as an extension to this, or would a separate suggestion be more appropriate?
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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby d.l.g. » 30 Apr 2017 02:05

Any news?
Android VLC 2.0.6 - Requests are the same.

1- MULTIPLE GENRE:
VLC populates the library list by reading the ID3 (v2.3?) metadata.
If a song has %genre% tag with multiple values VLC reads all the string as a UNIQUE genre value (es: "Alternative Rock Alternative Pop Indie Raggae") irrespective of the delimiter used; sometimes with special delimiters vlc loads the track directly in 'unknown genre'.
Is there a specific delimiter used by VLC to read tag fields with multiple values? (id3tag uses \\ and others ; for %genre% tag)
--> Could you add an option in "Preferences" for activate a customized delimiter?

Similar requests:
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... ilit=genre

2- ADVANCED BROWSING MENU:
VLC adopts only standard tab browsing options in the catalogue: "Artist", "Album", "Songs", "Genres", "Playlist".
Users usually create custom ID3 tags as %favourite% %rating% %mood% etc...
Should be useful to be able to create and save customized tabs (i.e. with a "+" button near last tab) based on a custom ID3 tag to search songs with their specified values.
So, if I would have a %rating% tag with values 0-5 I could load all songs with a specified value in the viewed list without need to create every time with PC an updated playlist of favourite songs to import.

3- ADVANCED QUERY SEARCH TAB:
Would be also useful an 'advanced query' clicking the search page (lens icon), using text filters (SQL/coding type) or selectable items:
query1: (TAG=%rating%;VALUE={5,4}) <=> rating GREATER 3 <=> rating={5,4} etc...
query2: (TAG=%rating%;VALUE=5) AND (TAG=%mood%;VALUE="happy") <=> rating IS 5 AND mood IS happy <=> rating=5 AND mood="happy"
an so on...

3- METADATA VIEW:
A summary of the ID3 metadata is missing!

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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby ericjs » 13 May 2017 22:08

Those all all good features, but the custom tab feature in particular would be HUGELY useful. In particular, the current set of tabs is missing Composer which is critical for classical music. I'd be happy if that were just added to the base set of tabs, but the custom tab feature would enable that and more.

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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby xerus » 15 May 2017 14:02

Yeah still wondering why this isn't implemented... I NEED THIS
I have many collabs and I can currently only tag the most important artist or it becomes a mess...

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Re: [Android] Sorting music by multiple delimited values in tags

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 28 Aug 2017 12:02

Yeah still wondering why this isn't implemented... I NEED THIS
I have many collabs and I can currently only tag the most important artist or it becomes a mess...
Did you try to test 2.1.17 ? The whole metadata management was changed.
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