Time for Blu-Ray support guys...

[VLC_help]

Aren't Mplayer and VLC supposed to be able to share code? So why it this happening?

They both use libavcodec, but demuxers aren't always same ones. Also different build options and different source code versions can make them to behave differently in libavcodec level. Mplayer and VLC also have different output modules, but video output issues should be shown with most videos (so not limited to Blu-ray only).

[kurkosdr]

Aren't Mplayer and VLC supposed to be able to share code? So why it this happening?

They both use libavcodec, but demuxers aren't always same ones. Also different build options and different source code versions can make them to behave differently in libavcodec level. Mplayer and VLC also have different output modules, but video output issues should be shown with most videos (so not limited to Blu-ray only).

Huh? Can't you just find what's making Mplayer work and what's making VLC don't, and then use code/ideas from Mplayer to fix it?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Aren't Mplayer and VLC supposed to be able to share code? So why it this happening?

They both use libavcodec, but demuxers aren't always same ones. Also different build options and different source code versions can make them to behave differently in libavcodec level. Mplayer and VLC also have different output modules, but video output issues should be shown with most videos (so not limited to Blu-ray only).

Huh? Can't you just find what's making Mplayer work and what's making VLC don't, and then use code/ideas from Mplayer to fix it?

Mplayer doesn't decode Blu-Ray.

[kurkosdr]

Mplayer doesn't decode Blu-Ray.

That's the easy part. Just use Any DVD HD or DumpHD(for the Linux people), or Blu-Ray Ripper (for the windows people that don't like shareware). The problem is that even on a decrypted movie, VLC has problems with playing some VC-1 streams, plus it doesn't support menus

[VLC_help]

Blu-ray menu support isn't going to happen anytime soon as I have said earlier.

[Lotesdelere]

I just found this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1327197

[doomonyou]

I just found this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p ... ost1327197

NIce, I hope the guy gets it working cross platform..

[DGMurdockIII]

some of them here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149392&page=3 got it to work in mplayer

[analog]

Most just show a 'green screen'. Same movie plays fine with mplayer.

Aren't Mplayer and VLC supposed to be able to share code? So why it this happening?

The reason i told about DVD fab GPLing their code is that if VLC manages to see through copy protection, it would be still a great step, despite the lack of menu support

I'm not sure but doesn't mplayer mainly use gstreamer for decoding ?

[ChuckMcKnight]

By any chance will this leak help get Blu-ray support for VLC?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20016756-245.html

I don't know much about how DRM works, so this might be something totally different.

[ivoire]

No, HDCP and DRMs for Blu-ray are not the same things.

[ivoire]

Anyway a patch for Blu-ray support was pushed some days ago into the git repository.

[DGMurdockIII]

for blu-ray playback from disk?

[ivoire]

AFAIK yes.

[TheFalcon]

Is that patch really working? and can we use that patch?

[kurkosdr]

AFAIK yes.

By "support" you mean:

a) a "bluray disc" option in the "open" menu, which just plays the m2ts files

or

b) full bluray support (for non encrypted discs), with BD-J menus, PiP effect and the rest.

I guess it's the first. Right? Can VLC even do Bluray's PiP effect without major changes in the code? Just asking, because such a feature would be cool to see in, say, MKV.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Well, now, it can open a BDMV folder and playback the movie correctly.

It doesn't support BD-J yet (on going), nor PiP.
PiP is doable with VLC, through VLM

[kurkosdr]

It doesn't support BD-J yet (on going)

That's very good news. If VLC manages to get full Bluray support, mac users are really going to open champagne bottles (even if it's for unencrypted Blurays only).

Now, If you want to play a bluray on a mac, besides the fact you have to manually copy the encrypted disc to an HDD with some program, there is no player for OS X that supports BD-J, so you are essentially losing all the menus. Same applies on Linux.

Is there any site documenting the progress done on BD-J? What is done, what is left to be done etc....

[Chancer]

Cool. But what's the difference of "reading m2ts files" and "reading BDMV folder"?
If menus don't work, what else is in the folder that VLC can play?

And, just an estimate, do you believe we'll have full BD support in one year from now or so?

[kurkosdr]

Cool. But what's the difference of "reading m2ts files" and "reading BDMV folder"?
If menus don't work, what else is in the folder that VLC can play?

Well, if the movie is in pieces (=split in different m2ts files), then it's good to be able to play the entire BDMV folder, and not load the m2ts files one by one.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

It doesn't support BD-J yet (on going)

That's very good news. If VLC manages to get full Bluray support, mac users are really going to open champagne bottles (even if it's for unencrypted Blurays only).

Now, If you want to play a bluray on a mac, besides the fact you have to manually copy the encrypted disc to an HDD with some program, there is no player for OS X that supports BD-J, so you are essentially losing all the menus. Same applies on Linux.

Is there any site documenting the progress done on BD-J? What is done, what is left to be done etc....

Well, the issue is more about whether there are the right drivers for this or not.

[Chancer]

And what about HD audio bitstreaming support, how is it going?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

HD audio bitstreaming? You mean HDMI bitstreaming?

[Chancer]

Yes, but streaming DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD.

[ectospasm]

I've been ripping my Blu Ray discs using SlySoft AnyDVD HD, and I can (mostly) read Blu Ray *.m2ts files. However, if the movie is split amongst multiple *.m2ts files, selecting the BDMV directory plays everything in BDMV/STREAM, including documentary/making of pieces I don't want to see when playing the movie. Is there anything we can do to prevent this? Could the BDMV/PLAYLIST/*.mpls help with this?