Santa hat icon?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Well, I am not christian, nor muslim, nor anything but flesh and bone, but I must admit that the feature annoys me because it reminds me of getting fat eating too much giving eachother junk while atching starving and dying people on T.V... It does not match my mood or my exquisitly simplistic desktop.

Now that I see there is no way to remove it, I will bear because VLC is really the best player around.

I hope this does not turn into a let's add Jewish, Muslim, Budhist, etc... holidays icons, cuz' I like my software nice, clean and laïc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%AFcit%C3%A9).


Cheers,

Recompile VLC and stop bothering us.

[thepeex]

Allmighty j-b,

I appologize if I bothered you, I will recompile as your ordered, as I am blessed by thee enough to know how.

I will now live in the fear of the allmighty "J" and stay close to my compiler. I will also take an oath to keep a sense of humour in 2010.



Allez... Bonne année (grégorienne) !

[christzel]

Allmighty j-b,

I appologize if I bothered you, I will recompile as your ordered, as I am blessed by thee enough to know how.

I will now live in the fear of the allmighty "J" and stay close to my compiler. I will also take an oath to keep a sense of humour in 2010.



Allez... Bonne année (grégorienne) !

why are you being a so --please stay polite-- stupid sarcastic --please stay polite--? JESUS CHRIST! dont u like it, dont use it! did you pay for it?NO so dont --please stay polite-- use it.

muslims,jews etc can make their one vlc skin and put any icon they want..if you cant do it then dont use vlc and use other program..Jesus Christ!

it is like someone gives you food for free and u say i dont like it coz its too salty.

go sit on a cone and take a pic of you and then recompile it with this icon.post it in the forum ill download it and i wont be offended.



NOW NON-CHRISTMAS PLEASE SHUT YOUR EYES:

Merry christmas and happy new year!

NOW OPEN YOUR EYES AND PLEASE DONT READ WHAT I SAID BEFORE BECAUSE YOU WILL GET OFFENDED.

greetings from Greece


PS im joking..

PS2 im not being sarcastic with any religion because I RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS AND EVERYBODY HAS TO RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS...BUT the santa hat is not something offensive..

[thepeex]

Picture of me with a cone in my behind... However tempting that may sound I think this is hardly the right forum

ThePeeX.

[lexein]

I don't care WHAT the icon changed to.
1. Any "easter egg" which permanently affects user preferences should provide notice. If the change is harmless and leaves no permanent effect requiring user intervention, it doesn't need notice.
2. Any "easter egg" which makes changes should undo itself cleanly, (in this case, restoring the user's icon associations). The nature of an "easter egg" done properly (as opposed to a logic bomb) is that it's harmless and leaves no permanent trace.

An "easter egg" which makes changes that a user has to "repair" cannot be reasonably called an "easter egg".
I hope a VLC primary developer takes responsibility and rips the broken thing out until it can be written correctly.

Remember when Microsoft, Real, and Netscape were blasted for pulling the same behind-the-back system preferences switches?

[christzel]

its so simple lexein..dont use it. when you eat some food and you dont like it then you stop eating it..so stop using vlc.(you pay for food,you dont pay for vlc)

[lexein]

I see. You're advocating that broken code which
- alters system-wide user preferences and
- doesn't restore them
should persist in this project.

[christzel]

my dear lexein..dont use it if you dont like it! its so simple..

[lexein]

I've used and recommended VLC for years, and made suggestions, and submitted bug reports.
This is just another bug.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

1. Any "easter egg" which permanently affects user preferences should provide notice. If the change is harmless and leaves no permanent effect requiring user intervention, it doesn't need notice.

So, VLC's change is harmless. => No notice

2. Any "easter egg" which makes changes should undo itself cleanly, (in this case, restoring the user's icon associations). The nature of an "easter egg" done properly (as opposed to a logic bomb) is that it's harmless and leaves no permanent trace.

Which is what VLC does. It is totally clean, doesn't do anything in your back and doesn't download anything. It doesn't even change your icon association.

An "easter egg" which makes changes that a user has to "repair" cannot be reasonably called an "easter egg".

VLC is not broken. And this is not an easter egg.

I hope a VLC primary developer takes responsibility and rips the broken thing out until it can be written correctly.

What? You are kidding...

Remember when Microsoft, Real, and Netscape were blasted for pulling the same behind-the-back system preferences switches?

VLC is not done by a company, but by volunteers that do that on their free time...
Deal with it or go elsewhere with your hatred.

[thepeex]

I don't care WHAT the icon changed to.
1. Any "easter egg" which permanently affects user preferences should provide notice. If the change is harmless and leaves no permanent effect requiring user intervention, it doesn't need notice.
2. Any "easter egg" which makes changes should undo itself cleanly, (in this case, restoring the user's icon associations). The nature of an "easter egg" done properly (as opposed to a logic bomb) is that it's harmless and leaves no permanent trace.

An "easter egg" which makes changes that a user has to "repair" cannot be reasonably called an "easter egg".
I hope a VLC primary developer takes responsibility and rips the broken thing out until it can be written correctly.

Remember when Microsoft, Real, and Netscape were blasted for pulling the same behind-the-back system preferences switches?

It did go away now... I guess it was for the whole gregorian x-mass to new-year portion, right?

[lexein]

1. Any "easter egg" which permanently affects user preferences should provide notice. If the change is harmless and leaves no permanent effect requiring user intervention, it doesn't need notice.

So, VLC's change is harmless. => No notice

You failed to comprehend the second requirement. VLC, by not restoring the original icon preferences, made a permanent change. So notice is required.

2. Any "easter egg" which makes changes should undo itself cleanly, (in this case, restoring the user's icon associations). The nature of an "easter egg" done properly (as opposed to a logic bomb) is that it's harmless and leaves no permanent trace.

Which is what VLC does. It is totally clean, doesn't do anything in your back and doesn't download anything. It doesn't even change your icon association.

VLC changed the icon. This affected every media file associated with VLC. Then VLC didn't revert this icon change - it left all those media files with an ugly default icon, breaking the user's preferences. Not what the user wanted.
This cannot be called "totally clean". ( Making changes without notice is clearly "behind my back". And I made no mention of downloading anything.)

An "easter egg" which makes changes that a user has to "repair" cannot be reasonably called an "easter egg".

VLC is not broken. And this is not an easter egg.

The definition of software "easter egg" is an unannounced, undocumented software feature.
What was the icon change then? An easter egg.

I hope a VLC primary developer takes responsibility and rips the broken thing out until it can be written correctly.

What? You are kidding...

Of course I'm not kidding. Why would I joke about removing a buggy feature until it can be fixed?

Remember when Microsoft, Real, and Netscape were blasted for pulling the same behind-the-back system preferences switches?

VLC is not done by a company, but by volunteers that do that on their free time...
Deal with it or go elsewhere with your hatred.

Any software development team (closed or open source, commercial or non-profit) is ultimately responsible to the users and the notion of best practices, and should not deliberately alter the user experience without notice or the ability to completely undo its effects. Even "volunteers" should do quality work, even on easter eggs.

j-b, in general I'm quite pleased with VLC, and its quality and stability, and growing feature set. I've reported on bugs with good documentation when I could. If I hated VLC, I really wouldn't be using it.

Really, this is just another bug (failure to fully restore all icon associations). It doesn't deserve to be defended.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

1. Any "easter egg" which permanently affects user preferences should provide notice. If the change is harmless and leaves no permanent effect requiring user intervention, it doesn't need notice.

So, VLC's change is harmless. => No notice

You failed to comprehend the second requirement. VLC, by not restoring the original icon preferences, made a permanent change. So notice is required.

Says who ? Who decided this rule? You ?
And sorry, the change went away on 1st january.

2. Any "easter egg" which makes changes should undo itself cleanly, (in this case, restoring the user's icon associations). The nature of an "easter egg" done properly (as opposed to a logic bomb) is that it's harmless and leaves no permanent trace.

Which is what VLC does. It is totally clean, doesn't do anything in your back and doesn't download anything. It doesn't even change your icon association.

VLC changed the icon. This affected every media file associated with VLC.

No it didn't. It changed the icon in the interface. Not the media files icon in the system.

Then VLC didn't revert this icon change - it left all those media files with an ugly default icon, breaking the user's preferences. Not what the user wanted.
This cannot be called "totally clean". ( Making changes without notice is clearly "behind my back". And I made no mention of downloading anything.)

Wrong again. It changed the icon in the interface and it reverted back at 1st january. It didn't change ANYTHING in media files icons or associations.

An "easter egg" which makes changes that a user has to "repair" cannot be reasonably called an "easter egg".

VLC is not broken. And this is not an easter egg.

The definition of software "easter egg" is an unannounced, undocumented software feature.
What was the icon change then? An easter egg.

Did you know you could screencast with VLC? Did you know that you could use client VNC in VLC? Did you know you could remux in VLC... Did you know you could use ascii art output in VLC? All those are undocumented features and not easter egg... Your definition is lame, wrong and stupid.

I hope a VLC primary developer takes responsibility and rips the broken thing out until it can be written correctly.

What? You are kidding...

Of course I'm not kidding. Why would I joke about removing a buggy feature until it can be fixed?

Because it is not buggy. The main icon of the program changes for the last 15 days of the year. It is a feature and it is not buggy.

Remember when Microsoft, Real, and Netscape were blasted for pulling the same behind-the-back system preferences switches?

VLC is not done by a company, but by volunteers that do that on their free time...
Deal with it or go elsewhere with your hatred.

Any software development team (closed or open source, commercial or non-profit) is ultimately responsible to the users and the notion of best practices, and should not deliberately alter the user experience without notice or the ability to completely undo its effects. Even "volunteers" should do quality work, even on easter eggs.

Responsible for what? First read the license of VLC, and you will see that we are not responsible and reliable for ANYTHING.
Then, this is not a bug, not broken, and not affecting anything in your system except the Qt interface of VLC. This is just a feature you don't like.

j-b, in general I'm quite pleased with VLC, and its quality and stability, and growing feature set. I've reported on bugs with good documentation when I could. If I hated VLC, I really wouldn't be using it.

Really, this is just another bug (failure to fully restore all icon associations). It doesn't deserve to be defended.

No, it is not. You are just a stupid troll on the internet. And you are slowing VLC's development.

[lexein]

j-b
My observations and reports are correct. First, the media file icons changed en masse to hats, then when your "feature" timed out, the icons reverted to the ugly default Windows icon. This happened on two different Windows XP SP3 systems that I know of.

Neglecting to get screenshots showing thousands of icons, all set to hats, then later, all set to the ugly Windows camera icon - that was stupid, I'll admit. However, I'm rather obviously not a troll.

[christzel]

j-b
My observations and reports are correct. First, the media file icons changed en masse to hats, then when your "feature" timed out, the icons reverted to the ugly default Windows icon. This happened on two different Windows XP SP3 systems that I know of.

Neglecting to get screenshots showing thousands of icons, all set to hats, then later, all set to the ugly Windows camera icon - that was stupid, I'll admit. However, I'm rather obviously not a troll.

not true.works perfect to me


I WISH I HAD THIS HAT FOREVER ON THE CONE! I LOVE THIS ICON! THANK YOU

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

j-b
My observations and reports are correct. First, the media file icons changed en masse to hats, then when your "feature" timed out, the icons reverted to the ugly default Windows icon. This happened on two different Windows XP SP3 systems that I know of.

No, your observations are wrong.
You are speaking of totally not the same thing as everyone else.

The feature is: for the Qt4 interface, if the date is in the last 15 days, change the 3 icons inside VLC application to an icon with a red hat. That is all... Anything else is unrelated.

Neglecting to get screenshots showing thousands of icons, all set to hats, then later, all set to the ugly Windows camera icon - that was stupid, I'll admit. However, I'm rather obviously not a troll.

If you are not a troll, you are then stupid or speaking of stuff you don't understand... I hoped for you that you were just a troll...

[christzel]

j-b i want this hat forever

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

j-b i want this hat forever

Same as other people who don't want it. You have to recompile VLC for that.

[3breadt]

Maybe VLC should get another easter egg which is not so controversially debated. One that does not conflict with anybody's conscience.

On the other hand then there still might be those who view traffic cones as holy and are offended by VLC's default logo

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

On the other hand then there still might be those who view traffic cones as holy and are offended by VLC's default logo

You've discovered my religion!

[stevedee3]

On the other hand then there still might be those who view traffic cones as holy and are offended by VLC's default logo

I have great respect for traffic cones and I'm always careful not to drive over them

[torrent12345]

I've used VLC less than a year so I've not seen the "santa hat" icon before. Searching these forums, I see that it's been..."discussed" before and not fixed (i.e. not made optional) by the program's author.

Some critics have overreacted to say the least (calling it "offensive"), as have its defenders who are too immature to abide anyone not agreeing with their particular sentiment. Let me ask this: if it had been a "satanic pentagram" appearing in the last days of October, would those defending the hat also be defending the pentagram? Or would you be selective (read: hypocritical) about what you choose to defend?

Making the hat mandatory is the author's prerogative. And it's my prerogative keep my money, not to donate to support the program as I normally do with other open source software. If anyone else doesn't like his failure to include an option to remove the hat, don't donate your money, and do let the author know that he chose not to have your money.

[n_m]

And Season's Greetings to you again, j-b

Another year of using your gift, with thanks.
May you enjoy peace and health for 2011.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

I've used VLC less than a year so I've not seen the "santa hat" icon before. Searching these forums, I see that it's been..."discussed" before and not fixed (i.e. not made optional) by the program's author.

Some critics have overreacted to say the least (calling it "offensive"), as have its defenders who are too immature to abide anyone not agreeing with their particular sentiment. Let me ask this: if it had been a "satanic pentagram" appearing in the last days of October, would those defending the hat also be defending the pentagram? Or would you be selective (read: hypocritical) about what you choose to defend?

Making the hat mandatory is the author's prerogative. And it's my prerogative keep my money, not to donate to support the program as I normally do with other open source software. If anyone else doesn't like his failure to include an option to remove the hat, don't donate your money, and do let the author know that he chose not to have your money.

People don't donate to VLC anyway

[lexein]

I've used VLC less than a year so I've not seen the "santa hat" icon before. Searching these forums, I see that it's been..."discussed" before and not fixed (i.e. not made optional) by the program's author.
...

People don't donate to VLC anyway

I would like to know how to disable this feature: either the configuration setting, registry setting, or line of code to change. I prefer not to manually clean up the mess this feature leaves: twice now, VLC has not restored the icon changes made. If it was happening only on the six systems I maintain, it wouldn't be so bad, but it's happening on the systems of my friends, and they don't like it either, and I've had to clean up their systems too. j-b, please allow those who like, enjoy, support, and propagate VLC to be free of this one unwanted feature. Is this really such an unreasonable request?