Streaming help needed

[scurvy]

Hi all, I've searched a while but haven't seen quite the same problem.
I got VLC to see my capture card and I can capture video from my camcorder with other programs (PowerCinema 3, Win Movie Maker) but when I try to stream the video (or just view it) in VLC all I get is a snowy screen with snow lines going horizontally across the screen. It looks as if you didn't hook up the cable to your tv set.
I'm using WinXP Pro on both computers and have tried viewing on the same PC as the stream originates and on another LAN PC.

Any help would be appreciated.
Scurvy

[just-do-it]

You have not said what capture card it is but I had a problem with my huppague 150 mce card exactly like yours
I had given up since my hup card was an oem card manufactured solely for HP and did not have the normal chipset on the card.
I was having so many problems I had given up and thought "well if you really must buy HP its on your own head"
I then found that going into 'MovieMaker' and exiting was 'kicking' the card into action for VLC...
I don't know its a computer!
chris

[scurvy]

Thanks for the reply.
Testing Machine:
Sapphire Theatrix 550 Pro capture card (Older I know but it's the only one I could find around the shop).
WinXP Pro SP2
1 G Ram
Sony HandyCam (in the S-Video input)


I just saw a blurb that the only cards that work are the Haupaug and one other. Is this still the case and if so, would an actual webcam with it's own software work better? I'm setting this up for a doctor's office who want's web conferences with patiets so it's just a testing stage to see what we'll need to do it.
Any ideas for the best way to do this?

[vlcdogs]

Use splitcam between the capture device.

[just-do-it]

Sorry if my reply sounded as if I KNEW - actually I KNOW diddly-squat other than what works for me!
There are people around vlc who may have a better idea ...
I can say that my camera (Attached to the composite input of the hupp. card) has streamed to Athens from the UK so if you need any more help I'll willingly give it but for the moment I'll butt out! good luck
chris
ps - re splitcam - read the revews and BEWARE of viruses! - alhough it does sound interesting - does anybody use it with vlc?...

[scurvy]

Ok, I've put off the live video for now. I think the cap card may be bad as it sometimes 'disappears' from the computer. I had to shut down, remove, restart, shut down reseat card and restart to find it again.
On to the next issue:
I got a video (.avi) to stream successfully over my LAN but Internet users are having different issues depending on how they log in.
If they use VLC they only get a short snippet then a freeze frame then short snippet.
If they use webpage I made using one from just-do-it's site then they don't get anything.
If they use WMP they get a very thin horizontal line through the center of Media Player that looks like a shrunken version of the video (about 1/4 inch high).
Right now, I'm streaming from a Cable connection with 768 upstream. The final stage will be on a T-1.
I've dropped the video size to 50%, encapsulation = ASF, Transcode = WMV1 (only way to view in WM), Bitrate 384.
This allows it to be viewed but I get the issues above. If I send it with default settings nothing goes through.
Thanks again for any ideas.
You can check it out at http://www.jtwebguy.com/pjohnny/vlc/vlc-Test2.html
I'll try to keep the movie running as long as I can...Speaking of which, is there a way to have it loop continuously?

[just-do-it]

looping i easy - I think j-b told me ... --loop asin

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"c:\program files\videolan\vlc\vlc.exe" D:\ChrisControlledWebs\Just-do-it\_video\THE_SKY_AT_NIGHT\ubavs.avi --loop :sout=#transcode{vcodec=WMV1,vb=1024,scale=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=asf,dst=192.168.1.10:8081}}

(commandline params are at http://www.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch04.html when you have trouble getting to sleep )

just-do-it's web site - - as I have said I know diddly squat! but this is an avi above and you can see it if you load your control (http://www.jtwebguy.com/pjohnny/vlc/vlc-Test2.html)
and put

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http://just-do-it.no-ip.org/_video/THE_SKY_AT_NIGHT/ubavs.avi

in the MRL box - this is iis serving the vod
or you can put
http://just-do-it.no-ip.org:8081 and see ubavs.avi streamed by vlc using the batchfile above
I've just tried your avi too but it will not work for me since you have got a 192... addresss in your mrl box - you need to put in your isp provided ip then forward external port 8282 to your pc(192.168.1.25 port 8282)then us mortals on the web can see your vid.
my ip is 78.86.141.80 which is turned into just-do-it.no-ip.org by no-ip.com the local address of the machine is 192.168.1.10 so my router forwards external requests to 78.86.141.80:8081 to 192.168.1.10:8081 and you see ubavs.avi - or not if my server has crashed cause its only a 1ghz single core and people will keep hacking it but hey! I can then try to learn a bit! )

My upstream is 1012Kbps (by Bethere.co.uk for 28 euros a month) and this is so much faster and cheaper than what I was getting from Virgin I will stay with them for a bit but 700Kbps should be ok I would have thought. You can check the stream speed - ubavs.avi streams at about 700Kbps by VLC;view;stream and media info once its going.
One request - if any of the things on't work let me know cause I have tried them but they could well stop and I can restart my server....
I should also add that the activex page comes from this set of forums - here in fact
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=29654
or more precisely here
http://people.videolan.org/~damienf/plugin-0.8.6.html - goodness I wish I could code this stuff

chris
ps 8081 also streams into WMP... I've just checked...

[scurvy]

Thanks for the info Chris. I've put the external ip back in the MRL so if you could try it again I'd appreciate it.
Also, where do I use the code snippets you're posting? I've been using the interface by using Open->File->Stream/Save->Settings, etc., etc.

Thanks again,
Jeff

[just-do-it]

Well it opened - for about 200 mssec! but at least you know everything is ok re routers;firewalls etc. etc. -Ive sent the whole view;message train for yu to paw over as a private message because I did not want to clog up the thread here - someone many actually find it usefull here wasmy message when I opened the stream

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main debug: adding playlist item `http://24.173.160.114:8282' ( http://24.173.160.114:8282 ) main debug: creating new input thread main debug: waiting for thread completion main debug: thread 7212 (input) created at priority 1 (input/input.c:265) main debug: creating statistics handler main debug: `http://24.173.160.114:8282' gives access `http' demux `' path `24.173.160.114:8282' main debug: creating demux: access='http' demux='' path='24.173.160.114:8282' main debug: looking for access_demux module: 0 candidates main warning: no access_demux module matched "http" main debug: creating access 'http' path='24.173.160.114:8282' main debug: looking for access2 module: 7 candidates access_http debug: http: server='24.173.160.114' port=8282 file='(null) main debug: net: connecting to 24.173.160.114 port 8282 main debug: connection in progress access_http debug: protocol 'HTTP' answer code 200 access_http debug: Content-Type: application/octet-stream main debug: using access2 module "access_http" main debug: pre-buffering... main debug: received first data for our buffer main debug: pre-buffering done 2920 bytes in 0s - 18 kbytes/s main debug: creating demux: access='http' demux='' path='24.173.160.114:8282' main debug: looking for demux2 module: 45 candidates asf debug: found object guid: 0x75b22630-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c size:675 asf debug: read "header object" subobj:5, reserved1:1, reserved2:2 asf debug: found object guid: 0x8cabdca1-0xa947-0x11cf-0x8ee400c00c205365 size:104 asf debug: read "file properties object" file_id:0xbabac001-0x918f-0x7296-0xd3f178db71f86eb6 file_size:725 creation_date:0 data_packets_count:4294967295 play_duration:0 send_duration:0 preroll:2000 flags:1 min_data_packet_size:4096 max_data_packet_size:4096 max_bitrate:1152000 asf debug: found object guid: 0x5fbf03b5-0xa92e-0x11cf-0x8ee300c00c205365 size:156 asf debug: read "header extension object" reserved1:0xabd3d211-0xa9ba-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 reserved2:6 header_extension_size:110 asf debug: found object guid: 0xc5f8cbea-0x5baf-0x4877-0x8467aa8c44fa4cca size:110 asf debug: read "metadata object" 2 entries asf debug: - AspectRatioX=2591999 asf debug: - AspectRatioY=2592000 asf debug: found object guid: 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 size:108 asf debug: read "stream Properties object" stream_type:0xf8699e40-0x5b4d-0x11cf-0xa8fd00805f5c442b error_correction_type:0x20fb5700-0x5b55-0x11cf-0xa8fd00805f5c442b time_offset:0 type_specific_data_length:30 error_correction_data_length:0 flags:0x1 stream_number:1 asf debug: found object guid: 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 size:129 asf debug: read "stream Properties object" stream_type:0xbc19efc0-0x5b4d-0x11cf-0xa8fd00805f5c442b error_correction_type:0x20fb5700-0x5b55-0x11cf-0xa8fd00805f5c442b time_offset:0 type_specific_data_length:51 error_correction_data_length:0 flags:0x2 stream_number:2 asf debug: found object guid: 0x86d15240-0x311d-0x11d0-0xa3a400a0c90348f6 size:148 asf debug: read "codec list object" reserved_guid:0x86d15241-0x311d-0x11d0-0xa3a400a0c90348f6 codec_entries_count:2 asf debug: - codec[0] audio name:"MPEG Audio Layer 3" description:"" information_length:2 asf debug: - codec[1] video name:"Windows Media Video 7" description:"" information_length:4 asf debug: found object guid: 0x75b22636-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c size:50 asf debug: read "data object" file_id:0xbabac001-0x918f-0x7296-0xd3f178db71f86eb6 total data packet:0 reserved:257 asf debug: + 'Unknown' GUID 0x0-0x0-0x0-0x0000000000000000 size:0pos:0 asf debug: + 'Header' GUID 0x75b22630-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c size:675pos:0 asf debug: | + 'File Properties' GUID 0x8cabdca1-0xa947-0x11cf-0x8ee400c00c205365 size:104pos:30 asf debug: | + 'Header Extension' GUID 0x5fbf03b5-0xa92e-0x11cf-0x8ee300c00c205365 size:156pos:134 asf debug: | | + 'Metadata' GUID 0xc5f8cbea-0x5baf-0x4877-0x8467aa8c44fa4cca size:110pos:180 asf debug: | + 'Stream Properties' GUID 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 size:108pos:290 asf debug: | + 'Stream Properties' GUID 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 size:129pos:398 asf debug: | + 'Codec List' GUID 0x86d15240-0x311d-0x11d0-0xa3a400a0c90348f6 size:148pos:527 asf debug: + 'Data' GUID 0x75b22636-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c size:50pos:675 asf debug: found 2 streams access_http warning: unimplemented query in control main debug: selecting program id=0 asf debug: added new audio stream(codec:0x55,ID:1) access_http warning: unimplemented query in control asf debug: added new video stream(ID:2) main debug: using demux2 module "asf" main debug: looking for a subtitle file in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\ main debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates main debug: using decoder module "mpeg_audio" main debug: thread 7336 (decoder) created at priority 2 (input/decoder.c:159) main debug: looking for decoder module: 28 candidates ffmpeg debug: libavcodec initialized (interface 3349504 ) ffmpeg debug: postprocessing disabled ffmpeg debug: using direct rendering ffmpeg debug: ffmpeg codec (Windows Media Video 1) started main debug: using decoder module "ffmpeg" main debug: thread 7344 (decoder) created at priority 0 (input/decoder.c:159) main debug: `http://24.173.160.114:8282' successfully opened ffmpeg warning: invalid picture type (wmv1@00B1D900) ffmpeg warning: header damaged (wmv1@00B1D900) ffmpeg warning: cannot decode one frame (2655 bytes) main debug: no usable vout present, spawning one mpeg_audio debug: MPGA channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:192 main debug: no aout present, spawning one main debug: looking for audio output module: 3 candidates main debug: Registering subpicture channel, ID: 2 main debug: Registering subpicture channel, ID: 3 main debug: Registering subpicture channel, ID: 4 main debug: Registering subpicture channel, ID: 5 aout_directx debug: OpenAudio main debug: window size: 576x304 main debug: looking for video output module: 6 candidates vout_directx debug: creating DirectXEventThread main debug: waiting for thread completion vout_directx debug: DirectXCreateWindow vout_directx debug: created video sub-window main debug: thread 7460 (DirectX Events Thread) created at priority 0 (directx.c:278) vout_directx debug: DirectXEventThread running vout_directx debug: DirectXInitDDraw vout_directx debug: directx-device: vout_directx debug: DirectXEnumCallback: Primary Display Driver, display vout_directx debug: DirectXEnumCallback: RADEON X300 Series, \\.\DISPLAY1 vout_directx debug: selecting RADEON X300 Series, \\.\DISPLAY1 vout_directx debug: screen dimensions (0x0,1280x1024) vout_directx debug: DirectDraw Capabilities: overlay=1 yuvoverlay=1 can_deinterlace_overlay=1 colorkey=1 stretch=1 bltfourcc=1 vout_directx debug: End DirectXInitDDraw vout_directx debug: DirectXCreateDisplay vout_directx debug: DirectXCreateClipper aout_directx debug: found device: Primary Sound Driver aout_directx debug: found device: SB Audigy Audio [E480] vout_directx debug: disabling screen saver main debug: using video output module "vout_directx" main debug: waiting for thread completion vout_directx debug: NewPictureVec overlay:yes chroma:YV12 aout_directx debug: device supports 2 channels aout_directx debug: device supports 1 channel aout_directx debug: creating DirectSoundThread main debug: thread 7924 (DirectSound Notification Thread) created at priority 15 (directx.c:372) main debug: using audio output module "aout_directx" aout_directx debug: DirectSoundThread ready main debug: output 's16l' 48000 Hz Stereo frame=1 samples/4 bytes main debug: mixer 'fl32' 48000 Hz Stereo frame=1 samples/8 bytes main debug: filter(s) 'fl32'->'s16l' 48000 Hz->48000 Hz Stereo->Stereo main debug: looking for audio filter module: 24 candidates vout_directx debug: YUV overlay created successfully vout_directx debug: End NewPictureVec (succeeded) main debug: got 1 direct buffer(s) main debug: picture in 576x304 (0,0,576x304), chroma I420, ar 136421:72000, sar 1:1 main debug: picture user 576x304 (0,0,576x304), chroma I420, ar 136421:72000, sar 1:1 main debug: picture out 576x304 (0,0,576x304), chroma I420, ar 136421:72000, sar 1:1 main debug: direct render, mapping render pictures 0-6 to system pictures 1-7 main debug: thread 7868 (video output) created at priority 1 (video_output/video_output.c:421) ffmpeg warning: warning: first frame is no keyframe (wmv1@00B1D900) ffmpeg warning: invalid picture type (wmv1@00B1D900) ffmpeg warning: header damaged (wmv1@00B1D900) ffmpeg warning: cannot decode one frame (2273 bytes) main error: picture 02F7C4E8 refcount is -1 main debug: using audio filter module "float32tos16" main debug: found a filter for the whole conversion main debug: looking for audio mixer module: 3 candidates main debug: using audio mixer module "trivial_mixer" main debug: input 'mpga' 48000 Hz Stereo frame=1152 samples/969 bytes main debug: filter(s) 'mpga'->'fl32' 48000 Hz->48000 Hz Stereo->Stereo main debug: looking for audio filter module: 24 candidates main debug: using audio filter module "mpgatofixed32" main debug: found a filter for the whole conversion main debug: filter(s) 'fl32'->'fl32' 52800 Hz->48000 Hz Stereo->Stereo main debug: looking for audio filter module: 24 candidates main debug: using audio filter module "bandlimited_resampler" main debug: found a filter for the whole conversion main warning: PTS is out of range (144000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (120000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (96000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (72000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (48000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (24000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (0), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (-24000), dropping buffer mpgatofixed32 debug: libmad error: bad main_data_begin pointer main warning: computed PTS is out of range (310000), clearing out main warning: PTS is out of range (310000), dropping buffer main warning: output PTS is out of range (318000), clearing out main warning: PTS is out of range (286000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (262000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (238000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (214000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (190000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (166000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (142000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (118000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (94000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (70000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (46000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (22000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (-2000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (-26000), dropping buffer main warning: late picture skipped (298000) main warning: late picture skipped (256000) main warning: late picture skipped (214000) main warning: late picture skipped (172000) main warning: late picture skipped (131000) main warning: late picture skipped (120000) main warning: late picture skipped (78000) main warning: late picture skipped (37000) main warning: PTS is out of range (934000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (910000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (886000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (862000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (838000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (814000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (790000), dropping buffer main warning: late picture skipped (949000) main warning: late picture skipped (907000) main warning: late picture skipped (865000) main warning: late picture skipped (824000) . . . main warning: late picture skipped (782000) main warning: PTS is out of range (1813000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (1789000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (1765000), dropping buffer main warning: PTS is out of range (23489000), dropping buffer asf warning: cannot peek while getting new packet, EOF ? main debug: EOF reached main debug: closing input asf debug: free asf object 0x8cabdca1-0xa947-0x11cf-0x8ee400c00c205365 asf debug: free asf object 0xc5f8cbea-0x5baf-0x4877-0x8467aa8c44fa4cca asf debug: free asf object 0x5fbf03b5-0xa92e-0x11cf-0x8ee300c00c205365 asf debug: free asf object 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 asf debug: free asf object 0xb7dc0791-0xa9b7-0x11cf-0x8ee600c00c205365 asf debug: free asf object 0x86d15240-0x311d-0x11d0-0xa3a400a0c90348f6 asf debug: free asf object 0x75b22630-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c asf debug: free asf object 0x75b22636-0x668e-0x11cf-0xa6d900aa0062ce6c main debug: removing module "mpeg_audio" main debug: thread times: real 0m35.359827s, kernel 0m0.109375s, user 0m0.109375s main debug: thread 7336 joined (input/decoder.c:191) main debug: killing decoder fourcc `mpga', 0 PES in FIFO main debug: removing module "mpgatofixed32" main debug: removing module "bandlimited_resampler" aout_directx debug: closing audio device aout_directx debug: DirectSoundThread exiting main debug: thread times: real 0m32.469165s, kernel 0m0.000000s, user 0m0.000000s main debug: thread 7924 joined (directx.c:598) main debug: removing module "aout_directx" main debug: removing module "float32tos16" main debug: removing module "trivial_mixer" ffmpeg debug: ffmpeg codec (Windows Media Video 1) stopped main debug: removing module "ffmpeg" main debug: thread times: real 0m33.125424s, kernel 0m0.015625s, user 0m0.203125s main debug: thread 7344 joined (input/decoder.c:191) main debug: killing decoder fourcc `WMV1', 0 PES in FIFO main debug: Program doesn't contain anymore ES main debug: removing module "asf" main debug: removing module "access_http" main debug: thread times: real 0m38.250489s, kernel 0m0.109375s, user 0m0.031250s main debug: thread 7212 joined (input/input.c:412) main: nothing to play main debug: garbage collector destroys 1 vout vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseSurface vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseDisplay vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseDisplay clipper vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseDisplay display vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseDDraw vout_directx debug: CloseVideo vout_directx debug: DirectXEventThread terminating vout_directx debug: DirectXCloseWindow vout_directx debug: WinProc WM_DESTROY main debug: thread times: real 0m33.062923s, kernel 0m0.000000s, user 0m0.000000s main debug: thread 7460 joined (directx.c:509) main debug: removing module "vout_directx" main debug: thread times: real 0m32.641042s, kernel 0m0.031250s, user 0m0.000000s main debug: thread 7868 joined (video_output/video_output.c:461)

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actually I 've watched it aggain and got a bit of video too!
I'm not sure but I get the feeling that it may be a problem with your stream speed being too high for your isp's line speed - try making the video bit rate slower and risize it so its a small pic then we can always make it bigger when we have a sustainable strem
chris

[scurvy]

OYE!! hehe.
I'll take a look at that. I've dropped the stream to 256kb and resized to .5 normal. I also set the webpage to be 1/2 the size it was before.
Thanks again for helping out.
Jeff

[just-do-it]

much better! but still not watchable
I am no expert so if anyone wants to butt in HHeeelp! any third party comments greatfully acepted
Having said that I would sack asf/wma and try mpeg ts /mp4v cause I've had more success with those. disagvantage is, as you probably know, mp4v gives WMP a headache but your activex vlc page wont have a problem.
What time zone are you in cause this is really bugging me and I would like to see it work!
chris

also the acitvex size is not going to affect the stream - I have a faster machine on my lan and transcode / resize on that then use vlc on my web machine broadcasting 'raw' as a relay - which means my internet machine is not overloaded 'cause its stuggling! (!Ghz single core; w2k adv. server)

Finally I've read your posts again and the code snippets

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"c:\program files\videolan\vlc\vlc.exe" D:\ChrisControlledWebs\Just-do-it\_video\THE_SKY_AT_NIGHT\ubavs.avi --loop :sout=#transcode{vcodec=WMV1,vb=1024,scale=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=asf,dst=192.168.1.10:8081}}

for example are batch file contents which I use all the time so I know what I've done. If you make a blank text file with .bat extension and paste the contents in when you run the .bat file (assuming your vlc is in the default location) you will envoke vlc and the :sout.... is the commandline to get you vid out/transcoded