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freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 15:45
by silky
Hi Everyone, Im new to the forum so first post. :?:

I have a satellite receiver which I want to stream over the internet to my laptop, this works perfectly on my home network but when conducting this from a remote location the picture freezes. Im streaming a standard definition picture.

Im a total newbie and have not got a clue how to correct this, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Silky.

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 15:47
by Sébastien Escudier
not enough bandwidth maybe.

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 15:50
by silky
Hi,

Bandwith should be fine, Ive plugged this in directly to the modem and Im on 20meg broadband cable!

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 15:51
by Sébastien Escudier
look at full vlc logs then.

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:11
by silky
OK,

THIS IS THE LOG

main warning: PTS is out of range (38566), dropping buffer
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 120 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xf instead of 0x5 (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x1 instead of 0xb (pid=661)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xd instead of 0x7 (pid=660)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
main error: ES_OUT_SET_(GROUP_)PCR is called too late (pts_delay increased to 1325 ms)
main debug: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
main debug: Buffering 0%
main debug: Buffering 2%
main debug: End of audio preroll
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 176 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xb instead of 0xa (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x8 instead of 0x6 (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xc instead of 0xa (pid=661)
main debug: Stream buffering done (1801 ms in 415 ms)
main debug: Decoder buffering done in 10 ms
main warning: PTS is out of range (131355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (107355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (83355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (59355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (35355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (11355), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (-12645), dropping buffer
main warning: PTS is out of range (-36645), dropping buffer
ts debug: PATCallBack called
main debug: auto hidding mouse
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 120 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xe (pid=661)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xe instead of 0xa (pid=660)
main debug: End of video preroll
main warning: late picture skipped (4950278 > -2445)
main warning: late picture skipped (4950278 > -2445)
main warning: late picture skipped (4910278 > -2445)
main warning: late picture skipped (4870278 > -2445)
main warning: late picture skipped (4830278 > -2445)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 36 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x5 instead of 0xd (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xe instead of 0x1 (pid=661)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xa instead of 0xc (pid=660)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 64 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xa instead of 0x1 (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xd instead of 0x7 (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xc (pid=661)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 64 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xc instead of 0xb (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xd instead of 0xa (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xd (pid=661)
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 120 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x7 instead of 0x2 (pid=513)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xd (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x6 instead of 0x0 (pid=661)
avcodec error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 36 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xf instead of 0xc (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x1 instead of 0xf (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x6 instead of 0x4 (pid=661)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 120 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xb instead of 0x8 (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xd instead of 0x0 (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0x4 (pid=661)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 92 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xb instead of 0xe (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x0 instead of 0x3 (pid=661)
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 64 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x9 instead of 0xf (pid=513)
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xd instead of 0x9 (pid=660)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xe (pid=661)
ts debug: PATCallBack called
ts warning: lost synchro
ts debug: skipping 92 bytes of garbage
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x5 instead of 0xe (pid=513)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0x2 instead of 0xe (pid=661)
ts warning: discontinuity received 0xe instead of 0xa (pid=660)
ts debug: PMTCallBack called
ts debug: PATCallBack called


ANY IDEAS?

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:22
by Sébastien Escudier
ts warning: discontinuity

yes, that's what I said... not enough bandwidth

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:32
by silky
hhmm,

will that be at the remote location or from my home location then?

as I said it works fine when Im at home with my laptop so I presume its the works location?

just done a speedtest at office as follows:

download = 16.84 mpbs
ping = 26ms
upload = 1.88

that should be enough shouldnt it?

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:36
by Sébastien Escudier
look at the bitrate of your stream (when it works locally) in tools -> codec -> statistics

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:41
by silky
ok,

what do I do with that information then?

ps: thanks for all your help so far

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:46
by Sébastien Escudier
You campare it to your bandwith

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 16:55
by silky
ok,

still in remote location but stats are as follows:

input/read
media data siZe = 7028 KiB
input bitrate = = jumping from 417kb/s to 916 kb/s
Demuxed data size = 6678 KiB.

picture only changes every 30 seconds and no sound at all!

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 17:01
by Sébastien Escudier
well the information you need is :
the bandwith of the connection between the server and the receiver, and the bitrate of your stream.

The bitrate can't be measured when it does not work, this is useless.

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 06 Sep 2011 17:08
by silky
OK,

I will have a look at the above information from home later and post back tonight with details.

Thanks

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 00:08
by silky
ok,

this is what Ive found when its working on local system and is working properly ( no freeze )

input bitrate = 4473 kb/s
content bitrate = 4490 kb/s

so what now?

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 08:20
by Sébastien Escudier
Unless you have a 5 mbs upload bandwith on your server, you would need to transcode it to reduce the bitrate (thus the quality)

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 13:19
by silky
ok,

how do I do that?

thanks for help so far

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 13:21
by Sébastien Escudier

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 13:41
by silky
Thanks,

Im using the latest version of vlc player and those options dont seem to be available, to be honest Im not sure what im doing, can you give me a clue what I need to put in where?

Thanks mate

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 13:51
by silky
Hi Again,

Ive got as far as the convert screen,

I have my input source as the stream from my satellite receiver and I presume I leave the destination folder blank and tick the display output box?

the next box is settings:

it says video h264+AAC(MP4) do I change that?

it then has 2 boxes for deinterlace, and dump raw input, do I tick these boxes?

anything else I need to do?

Re: freezing when streaming over internet

Posted: 07 Sep 2011 13:57
by Sébastien Escudier
sorry I can't explain everything here. you'll have to read some docs about transcoding, codecs, quality etc... and also stream output