Subtitle fonts not displaying correctly

[bulbul]

I have a problem with an ass file not displaying correctly on some of my videos. I have 2 videos that are identical tho with different quality, but only 1 had subtitles and they were merged with the video. I used mkvextract in order to split the sub from the video, but when I played the other video with the extracted sub the fonts were changed.
Then I took the sub and played it with the older video - the fonts were fine. Then I thought that maybe there's something wrong with the problematic video so I tried playing the sub with a random video I had on my pc, and the fonts were wrong again!

This problem really annoys me so it will be really helpful if someone could solve it for me.

p.s
All the videos I used were mkv

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

You need to be more specific, than 'wrong'

[bulbul]

You need to be more specific, than 'wrong'

Sorry, what I meant was that I think the fonts in the ass were swapped with others inside it. There are several fonts in it, some are for dialogue and some are for signboards, and I believe that these fonts swapped places so the signboards fonts appear on dialogue and the same happens with dialogue fonts and signboards. I say that I believe that what happens because I didnt confirm it yet since there are many fonts in the file and it's hard to identify each one. Therefor there is also the possibility the fonts are simply changed.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

screenshot please?

[bulbul]

screenshot please?

Sorry.. again.. Here they are:
This is the right way for the fonts to be displayed
http://www.image-upload.net/di/PKU4/Capture2.jpg

This is the wrong one
http://www.image-upload.net/di/N9PH/Capture1.jpg

And this is a problem that occurs because of it
http://www.image-upload.net/di/41SF/Capture.jpg
(It's supposed to display the English text only)

[nkoriyama]

If you want to know what fonts are selected, you can see the log of libass outputed to stderr.

If you use Windows, launch VLC like:

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"c:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" --extraintf=logger

and logger window will appear.

If libass(fontconfig) cannot find the exact font in the ASS script, substitute font will be selected like:

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[ass] fontconfig: Selected font is not the requested one: 'Vani Negreta' != 'Iwata Mincho Old Pro-En H' [ass] Glyph 0x6016 not found, selecting one more font for (Iwata Mincho Old Pro-En H, 200, 0) [ass] fontconfig: Selected font is not the requested one: 'Malgun Gothic Bold' != 'Iwata Mincho Old Pro-En H' [ass] Glyph 0x5B9F not found, selecting one more font for (Iwata Mincho Old Pro-En H, 200, 0) [ass] fontconfig: Selected font is not the requested one: 'Meiryo Negreta' != 'Iwata Mincho Old Pro-En H'

[bulbul]

I've done what you said but I don't really know what to make of it..
This is what was written from the correct video:
http://www.image-upload.net/di/MPFH/right.png

and this is from the problematic one:
http://www.image-upload.net/di/A4N4/wrong.png

[nkoriyama]

Does the ASS script have the embedded fonts (Fansub Block, BakerSigned BT, etc) ?

[bulbul]

Does the ASS script have the embedded fonts (Fansub Block, BakerSigned BT, etc) ?

How can I check?
Also, if it will make things easier to understand, here is the file itself:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9r0912yzycdxq7v

[nkoriyama]

I think there are 2 patterns using embedded fonts:
- Attachment in the MKV.
- Embedded in ASS script.

You can check the attachments in the MKV file using mkvinfo.

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mkvinfo foobar.mkv

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|+ Attachments | + Attached | + File name: foobar.ttf | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font | + File data, size: 132832 | + File UID: 4177055912

You can extract ASS scripts using mkvextract.

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+ A track + Track number: 3 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 2) + Track UID: 2367166114 + Track type: subtitles + Lacing flag: 0 + Codec ID: S_TEXT/ASS + CodecPrivate, length 2074

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mkvextract tracks foobar.mkv 2:foobar.ass

if the script contains some fonts, there might be the entry like the following:

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[Fonts] fontname: foobar_0_0_0_0_0_0_0.ttf !!%!!!!6!1!!"!"12&.*2`XMLW)!!9T%!!!<7%>%2593LR0<!!&[^!!!!,*(5%^4O@$^.A!"?[A!!!_K 2V.61P*"]S%!!9N5!!!"<ER55UDE>?N4!!!(V!!!!7Z05S]S90V-[1!!!>A!!!"A6E2.7"^+.%)!!!F% !!!2F'.N98"LH3)O!!!VZ!!!!6:D>H1AB>'7S!!!1C!!!!*':H"H<274.=U!!$=]!!!&B'>B=X!!,A!* !!&[Z!!!!""H<(FG3E>U"Q!!2U!!!3.G;'2N?"[(M,Y!!"L9!!!<$'BF9742Z7%B!!!"8!!!!$:I;'6B %Y%)YA!!!:1!!!!E;'VU?$BC[B5!!!)Y!!!&GGRP9W';&6%H!!"%;!!!!N:N98BQ"5)'A1!!!<A!!!!A

[bulbul]

I think there are 2 patterns using embedded fonts:
- Attachment in the MKV.
- Embedded in ASS script.

You can check the attachments in the MKV file using mkvinfo.

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mkvinfo foobar.mkv

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|+ Attachments | + Attached | + File name: foobar.ttf | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font | + File data, size: 132832 | + File UID: 4177055912

You can extract ASS scripts using mkvextract.

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+ A track + Track number: 3 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 2) + Track UID: 2367166114 + Track type: subtitles + Lacing flag: 0 + Codec ID: S_TEXT/ASS + CodecPrivate, length 2074

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mkvextract tracks foobar.mkv 2:foobar.ass

if the script contains some fonts, there might be the entry like the following:

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[Fonts] fontname: foobar_0_0_0_0_0_0_0.ttf !!%!!!!6!1!!"!"12&.*2`XMLW)!!9T%!!!<7%>%2593LR0<!!&[^!!!!,*(5%^4O@$^.A!"?[A!!!_K 2V.61P*"]S%!!9N5!!!"<ER55UDE>?N4!!!(V!!!!7Z05S]S90V-[1!!!>A!!!"A6E2.7"^+.%)!!!F% !!!2F'.N98"LH3)O!!!VZ!!!!6:D>H1AB>'7S!!!1C!!!!*':H"H<274.=U!!$=]!!!&B'>B=X!!,A!* !!&[Z!!!!""H<(FG3E>U"Q!!2U!!!3.G;'2N?"[(M,Y!!"L9!!!<$'BF9742Z7%B!!!"8!!!!$:I;'6B %Y%)YA!!!:1!!!!E;'VU?$BC[B5!!!)Y!!!&GGRP9W';&6%H!!"%;!!!!N:N98BQ"5)'A1!!!<A!!!!A

It seems only some of them are attached:

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(MKVInfo) |+ Attachments (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BellGothicStd-Black.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 32364 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 897696655 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BlissProOT-Regular.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 92872 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1743416219 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BlissProOT-Regular_0.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 92872 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 357343369 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Brianne_s_hand.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 14476 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2063188628 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: bronic.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 68548 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 175576977 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BurstMyBubble.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 22840 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 978607282 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: CHANC__.TTF (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 72640 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1478624185 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Complete_in_Him.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 13488 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2362689436 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: CooperBlackStd.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 35968 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1569641349 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Eager_Naturalist.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 38060 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2819014579 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: fansubBlock.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 2076 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 505727117 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: fawn.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 21068 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 476238762 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: georgia.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 157080 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1776168321 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: GIL____.TTF (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 67416 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3584080532 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: ITC_Avant_Garde_Gothic_LT_Medium_Caps.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 64396 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1996401803 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: JacobyICG-Light.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 39384 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3583298182 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Jorvik.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 64932 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2342107312 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: KozGoPro-Bold.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 4288364 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1180345788 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: KozGoPro-Medium.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 3469604 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2047862679 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: KozMinPro-Bold.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 4359780 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1359963570 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: KozMinPro-Medium.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 4287272 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3789181109 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: l_10646.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 325400 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 4201653668 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: LT_70142.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 56092 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1460601781 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: moonp.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 5457744 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2988724411 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Profile-Medium.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 36580 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3992560517 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Profile-Regular.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 36388 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3486875012 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: take_out_the_garbage.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 55980 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 359762347 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: Xerox Serif Wide.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 46192 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 523277742 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: AbyssTSFont.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 30980 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 2518373761 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: AGaramondPro-Bold.otf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 75116 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1923614909 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: ariblk.ttf (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 119876 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 3978040225 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BAARS__.TTF (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 46492 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 653546140 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BAKESBR.TTF (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 36668 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1866860692 (MKVInfo) | + Attached (MKVInfo) | + File name: BEATSVIL.TTF (MKVInfo) | + Mime type: application/x-truetype-font (MKVInfo) | + File data, size: 28940 (MKVInfo) | + File UID: 1594958523

If the rest of the of the summary can help here is the additional info:

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(MKVInfo) + EBML head (MKVInfo) |+ EBML version: 1 (MKVInfo) |+ EBML read version: 1 (MKVInfo) |+ EBML maximum ID length: 4 (MKVInfo) |+ EBML maximum size length: 8 (MKVInfo) |+ Doc type: matroska (MKVInfo) |+ Doc type version: 2 (MKVInfo) |+ Doc type read version: 2 (MKVInfo) + Segment, size 920437170 (MKVInfo) |+ Seek head (MKVInfo) | + Seek entry (MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) (MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4099 (MKVInfo) | + Seek entry (MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) (MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 4276 (MKVInfo) | + Seek entry (MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) (MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 920430164 (MKVInfo) | + Seek entry (MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x10 0x43 0xa7 0x70 (KaxChapters) (MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 23672074 (MKVInfo) | + Seek entry (MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x19 0x41 0xa4 0x69 (KaxAttachments) (MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 11850 (MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 4012) (MKVInfo) |+ Segment information (MKVInfo) | + Timecode scale: 1000000 (MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v1.2.2 + libmatroska v1.3.0 (MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v5.0.1 ('Es ist Sommer') built on Oct 9 2011 11:55:43 (MKVInfo) | + Duration: 1557.063s (00:25:57.063) (MKVInfo) | + Date: Sat Oct 29 13:47:12 2011 UTC (MKVInfo) | + Title: Hitagi Crab - Part 1 (MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x88 0x40 0x9b 0x46 0x7d 0x5e 0x9c 0x30 0x82 0xf4 0x3e 0x48 0xae 0xab 0x1f 0xdf (MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks (MKVInfo) | + A track (MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 0) (MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1 (MKVInfo) | + Track type: video (MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 (MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 (MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 51 (h.264 profile: High 10 @L5.0) (MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 41.708ms (23.976 frames/fields per second for a video track) (MKVInfo) | + Video track (MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 1920 (MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 1080 (MKVInfo) | + Display width: 1920 (MKVInfo) | + Display height: 1080 (MKVInfo) | + A track (MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 1) (MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 2094442668 (MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio (MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_FLAC (MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 154 (MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 85.333ms (11.719 frames/fields per second for a video track) (MKVInfo) | + Language: jpn (MKVInfo) | + Audio track (MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 48000 (MKVInfo) | + Channels: 2 (MKVInfo) | + Bit depth: 16 (MKVInfo) | + A track (MKVInfo) | + Track number: 3 (track ID for mkvmerge & mkvextract: 2) (MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 56875907 (MKVInfo) | + Track type: subtitles (MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 (MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: S_TEXT/ASS (MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 6058 (MKVInfo) | + Name: gg/qIIq (MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 1128) (MKVInfo) |+ Chapters (MKVInfo) | + EditionEntry (MKVInfo) | + EditionFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + EditionFlagDefault: 0 (MKVInfo) | + EditionUID: 4142686882 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 514492349 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:00:00.000000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Prologue (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 4120713869 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:02:43.038000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Opening (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 1250588059 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:04:13.003000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Part A (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 3517224584 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:14:24.906000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Part B (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 4274148501 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:23:54.975000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Ending (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) | + ChapterAtom (MKVInfo) | + ChapterUID: 897592487 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagHidden: 0 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterFlagEnabled: 1 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterTimeStart: 00:25:24.940000000 (MKVInfo) | + ChapterDisplay (MKVInfo) | + ChapterString: Preview (MKVInfo) | + ChapterLanguage: eng (MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 101) (MKVInfo) |+ Cluster

[nkoriyama]

Thank you for the info.
Then, I want the fonts and ASS script, I don't need video and audio.

[bulbul]

Thank you for the info.
Then, I want the fonts and ASS script, I don't need video and audio.

I put in my post above all the information that was written. The first code includes what I think is relevant and the latter just has all the excess information that I thought couldn't hurt to add.

Sorry if I'm missing something, but that's all the information that was given on the video containing the ASS script on mkvinfo.

[bulbul]

You guys have been really helpful until now, could you please continue helping me try to solve my problem?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

We need the .ass and the fonts, please.

[bulbul]

We need the .ass and the fonts, please.

Here is the .ass file
http://www.mediafire.com/?9r0912yzycdxq7v

And I don't know how to give the fonts..

[bulbul]

Please help me fix it! I am trying to give you all the information you need and this problem is really frustrating me!
From what I understand the .ass includes the fonts, if it doesn't, I'll try to locate them but I'll need a little direction..

[bulbul]

I have now downloaded a new version of the video and subtitles (almost same fonts, same text) and the problem still persists..
I used MKVextract to split the subtitles from the video, then played the better quality video I have, added the new subtitles, and again - the fonts are different than when I play the subtitles with it's original video.
Here is the download of the new subtitles:
http://www.mediafire.com/?th77d69l699tkvq

[bulbul]

Now it happened again with different videos and subtitles! PLEASE help me solve this!! I do this kind of stuff a lot (taking better subtitles from low quality videos to use with better quality ones) and this problem is a real pain in the ass!
I'm really trying to give you all the information you ask for so please help me fix this!
Is there a different program other than "MKVextract" that I can use in order to take out subtitles from MKVs?

[bulbul]

HELP ME SOLVE THIS! PLEASE!

[CactusMan]

Same problem here!

I tested the same subtitle .srt (subrip) with two video files.
1. avi xvid and the result was ok, the subs dysplaying during the movie was all correct...
2. mp4 x264 and the result was not ok. Some Characters like á à ó, etc... was not dysplaying, instead showing "?"s...
Only way to fix this in this version is t turn off in "All Settings" "video" "Subtitles/OSD" "Autodetect subtitle files", restart VLC, and then open the subtitle manually after loading the video.

The new "beta" version has fixed this, but has some playback issues, like loosing video/audio synch...
http://nightlies.videolan.org/