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PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 06 Jul 2009 21:41


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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 06 Jul 2009 23:55

What about putting on our website?
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 07 Jul 2009 00:20

go ahead.

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 08 Jul 2009 15:29

can we have a smaller screenshot for the website?
https://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins_upload.php
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 08 Jul 2009 19:03

how much smaller?

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 08 Jul 2009 22:27

Something that would fit on the /vlc/skins.php page.
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 09 Jul 2009 02:33

doesn't the site shrink them down? they're all huge when you click on them @_@

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Arite » 09 Jul 2009 15:45

doesn't the site shrink them down? they're all huge when you click on them @_@
Yes a thumbnail is created (200px width) when you upload, however I think j-b mean something that would fit more comfortably inside the lightbox window when enlarged also. For example, the subX size is reasonable:

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Admittedly there are other images like you said which are around the same size as yours... but perhaps a little less height (width seems fine). Should be OK at the current size as well though.

Skin looks great BTW :).

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 09 Jul 2009 18:55

Arite, you read my mind.
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 09 Jul 2009 21:14

before i do that, i just upgraded from 0.8.6 to 1.0 and there's no video window in my skin or other similar ones..

WHY? >_<

(by video window, i mean the window that always opens upon play when using skins where video isn't connected)

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Arite » 10 Jul 2009 17:16

Arite, you read my mind.
^_^.
before i do that, i just upgraded from 0.8.6 to 1.0 and there's no video window in my skin or other similar ones..

WHY? >_<
There were a lot of changes to the Skins2 interface for the 0.9.x releases, so persumably the way it currently works is not compatible with 0.9.x/1.0.x and up.

What did you use to make the skin? If you use the VLC Skin Editor (here) you can add a video object. Given a visibilty of "vlc.hasVout" it will only be displayed when there is a video playing, so when playing audio is playing will be as normal. Just an idea (would make the skin more-feature full). For example, a resizable video window could be added which appear below the main window when a video is being played.

Alternatively there may be a way to get it working as is with VLC 1.0.0, but I don't know how to do that.

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 10 Jul 2009 18:55

i used mspaint/notepad to make it, and wouldn't that technique require more skinning? i liked the program doing the video/playlist :/

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby Arite » 10 Jul 2009 23:44

OK that was just an idea. Should be doable how you suggested, I don't how though.

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 11 Jul 2009 00:50

i order you to find someone who knows!!3!!1 >:OOO

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby larzan » 13 Jul 2009 00:09

hi bedroompop
i dont know how it worked in older versions than 0.9, but as it has been said
before, you need to define a video object as described here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins2-create.html#Video

I also prefer to use a text editor to create the xml file; the following line would create a video window
that is just displayed when there is a playing! video stream present. The window will be at the position
1,1 relative from the skins origin, in case of resizing it is locked to the top left corner.

<Video x="1" y="1" width="545" height="279" id="TheVideo2" lefttop="lefttop" rightbottom="rightbottom" visible="vlc.hasVout"/>

Like your idea y lot btw, it is just a bit difficult to use, maybe you should make the buttons bigger, or give at least a hint which one can be found where?

Good to see your inspired approach, there are too many skins around that just replicate another design and produce
simple, albeit well made, remixes.
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby bedroompop » 13 Jul 2009 02:09

i just tried that, though likely wrongly, and got no window. it's not too big a deal for me as 1.0 is extremely slow and awful, and i don't really like the changes made to the right click menu. i get everything i want by using 0.8.6. it's awkward why vlc would remove such a simple feature as having a video window open by itself though. doesn't that seem like backwards progress? it makes all the skins i use (all remote-like) half-unuseable!

i put a HELP file in the rar that details where all the buttons are, if you didn't notice, and i placed them as smartly as i could so that they're easy to memorise. vlc should tell you which is which when you hover over them, and the whole idea of PICO is having it be unobtrusive/hardly there, while maintaining all the functionality that's needed. it's the kind of skin that's better off having it's buttons not visible, i think.

(i, too, hate how uncreative & generic most skins are with their button placement)

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby 3breadt » 14 Jul 2009 09:42

That the video window does not appear when you have no video control in your skin is a bug I think, probably has been created when the video element in skins2 was improved to work better.
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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby erwan10 » 14 Jul 2009 11:29

It's not a bug. It was a choice.

If a skins doesn't provide a video tag that can be used (means visible and within an active layout), the video is kept hidden.

Note that an hidden video can always be displayed using the "f" hotkey or the fullscreen item in the popup menu. Those skins without any video tags can still view a video in fullscreen mode.

The old system Video window that used to take over cannot be used anymore, because it was part of the vout subsystem and could not be claimed back. (Once you had this window, the video was lost for skins2)

Of course, everything is possible and if this is a real problem for skins with no video tags, changes could be made in the code. Changes can also be made in the skins to add a video tag (that can guarantee that a video truly complies with the skins design).

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Re: PICO for VLC

Postby apsis » 23 Oct 2009 21:24

i really love this skin since it is very minimalistic and absolutely what i was looking for. i didnt knew until yesterday that it doesnt work with vlc's newest versions, so i wonder if anyone could explain me the change i have to make to get the video-window back, so that i may understand it :/ since i have no clue about skinning yet, and i dont wanna drop that skin right now.


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