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Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 05 May 2010 08:31
by paintball9029
This problem has been brought up by myself and other but for some reason people just take it off subject in like 2 posts and it goes unanswered.
So the problem only exists in windows 7 (it happens with versions 1.03 both 1.05) and is caused when opening video files of any kind, the file begins to open and buffers and then promptly crashes at the 100% buffer mark. Please keep this topic on subject. From what I have seen it appears to be tied to the codec used to load the thumbnails. My guess is that if the thumbnails are using the codec then it gets unloaded before the video gets opened fully.

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 05 May 2010 11:26
by VLC_help
What thumbnails you mean? If mean ones in Windows Explorer, they aren't VLC related. You can disable them if you think problem is related to them
http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Disabl ... 7_38015613

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 06 May 2010 04:00
by paintball9029
I had tried that earlier and it didn't seem to change a lot, at most the frequency. But either way it is a problem that should be added to the list of known bugs, I'm not sure why other people haven't brought this up because I have seen it on multiple systems now. On a side note it might be x64 specific, I can't confirm either way.

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 06 May 2010 12:43
by VLC_help
This isn't VLC bug. VLC doesn't install any DirectShow filters which Windows Explorer uses.

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 06 May 2010 17:25
by paintball9029
What would it be then, cause it is isolated to VLC. No other programs have this issue opening files and its a pain in the butt to have to end VLC's process 3 times before you open a video file to watch it

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 07 May 2010 19:30
by VLC_help
Ahhh... Different issue if VLC crashes, but Explorer doesn't. You have some sample file we could use to replicate the issue?

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 08 May 2010 06:44
by paintball9029
Thats the thing, its every video file I have tried. It isn't every time however, only about every third time it will crash. And only if the file is the first one VLC has played since opening. If VLC has successfully played another file it will work fine but if it opens the first file either through double clicking the file or the open command there is a chance that it will fail. again i have only seen this problem on windows 7 x64. I was also wondered if it had anything to do with direct x 11 (i'm running an ati 5670) so i changed the output format to opengl. not only does vlc start several times faster but it appears the problem does not occur anymore. i could be wrong cause i only tried it about 30 times but it didn't happen there so for now i guess i will just use opengl but this is something that should be looked at. if you still want see some examples here they are.

Here's a sample file that I made of one of mine. The error was replicable with this file.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBTG5DP0
Here is a screen capture of the video after it has crashed, with the task manager behind it. see the buffer at 100% and the cpu usage at 0. the memory tends to be anywhere from 16Mb-20Mb when this happens. if you would like i could post a video of the whole scenario happening as well but i figured that would be pretty big so no point wasting bandwidth if its not needed. My ram usage is high at the moment but its a one time thing, just some memory intensive processes i'm running right now. the problem still occurs when they are gone. Usually i sit around 40% memory used.

Re: Windows 7 Crash on Buffer

Posted: 08 May 2010 18:49
by VLC_help
It is display adapter driver issue, if changing to OpenGL fixed it.