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Windows Vista: STill Problems with VLC 0.8.6 c

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 16:43
by arnold122
Hello,
first off all my System
Vista Home Basic
Geforce Go 6100
Nvidia Forceware 160.03 Vista Driver

In contrast to 0.8.6 b the videoplayback is now working.

But it's still very slow. VLC uses about 60% CPU 30 MB Ram to playback an XVID AVI

The same File played back with Media Player 11 with XVID 1.1.2 Final uses abou 28-40% CPU and only 24MB Ram

This is on default Video output.
If I switch to Windows GDI output the cpu usage reduces a little bit in comparison to default...

But VLC is still not working good with Vista :(

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 17:10
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Have you switched your Video Output to Direct3D ?

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 17:23
by arnold122
I also tried Direct 3d but when I use it, some part of the video is okay and the rest is kind of blurry (strange effect)

If you need any more system details to improve your programm just ask me

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 17:52
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Well, deactivate hardware acceleration YUV and use Direct3D. Does it work better ?

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 18:15
by arnold122
With disabled YUV Direct 3D works.

But vlc.exe still has around 30-50% CPU usage and 32 MB ram-usage.....

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 19:28
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Does activating it breaks VLC ? Does MMX optimisations are removed or not ?

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 19:45
by arnold122
no direct 3D is working!


MMX and all other cpu features are turned on

You probably have to do some code optimization, to make vlc use less ram and cpu. media player is using up less resources and the dumb Microsoft people produced it :D :D :D

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 19:54
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Well, this is a Vista only issue...

Posted: 13 Jun 2007 20:03
by arnold122
jeah, can u like get in contact with Microsoft?

Or is there a kind of debug option that might give you some information?
(I dont know if you have vista in your pc...)

Posted: 16 Jun 2007 17:54
by Trax
I made a trouble ticket for the performance issue, seems Vista only: http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/1226

Posted: 16 Jun 2007 23:17
by arnold122
Good, you described it very well.

I have the same problem. On my Vista Computer VLC uses way too mutch CPU...

Maybe with your information the issue can be fixed. you seem to be more advanced than I am.

Posted: 16 Jun 2007 23:20
by Trax
try --no-audio, that fixed most of my problems with high cpu :)

Posted: 16 Jun 2007 23:26
by arnold122
what do you mean by try --no-audio?

Posted: 16 Jun 2007 23:33
by Trax
settings, preferences, audio, enable audio -> disable .. not really practical usage but it does seem the audio is causing a lot of high cpu in my case

Posted: 17 Jun 2007 03:31
by arnold122
what sense has a mediaplayer with no audio?

watching videos without audio is senseless

Posted: 17 Jun 2007 06:06
by seinfeld
you are using all onboard devices, video and sound, thats normal

Posted: 17 Jun 2007 10:28
by Trax
I'm merely ruling out that it is not necessarily a video problem but an audio problem. That's why I said it isn't practical. I also tried on-board and a PCI card and the issue is the same. But it would help if more people are able to reproduce that the audio part is the culprit.

Posted: 17 Jun 2007 10:51
by Saribro
What sort of CPU are you using? If it has demand based throttling (Speedstep, Cool&Quiet,..), the cpu% figure could be overstated because the cpu may be running at a lower clockspeed than maximum.
On my system, the reported cpu% for VLC when the rest of the system is loaded is 3 times as high as with an otherwise idle system.