Playback controls not working properly on .VRO files

[GrampaWW]

I have been noticing with the latest release of VLC that during playback of .VRO files, the controls for skipping forward & backward don't work properly. For example, in my settings Ctrl+RightArrow is supposed to skip forward 1 minute. Instead, it skips forward about 30 seconds. RightArrow (without Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) is supposed to skip forward 5 seconds. Instead, it skips backwards. BACKWARDS! There's no difference between LeftArrow & RightArrow; they both skip backwards. The source for the .VRO files I've been looking at is my DVD recorder. I record a TV show & then play it back on my system. The format of my DVDs is DVD-RAM. I have tried playing the files directly off the DVDs. I have also tried copying the files from the DVD to my hard drive. Makes no difference. The skip controls act weird in both cases. Makes it hard to skip over commercials. I know this worked fine in at least one & probably several previous releases of VLC.

I have no problems with .MP3 & .MP4 files. Only .VRO files.

[Lotesdelere]

Please open Tools -> Messages (set Verbosity to 2) before you start the playback, and then paste the full resulting log here or on Pastebin.com if it's too long.

Also please upload a short sample of a problematic file to Zippyshare.com (200 MB max) and then post the link to the file here.

If needed cut it with DGsplit and read here about how to do it:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=57724&p=193335#p193335
100 MB max should be enough.

[GrampaWW]

Thank you for responding. This is the log file I got from playing 1 minute of a .VRO file I have right now. (I wish I could just attach a file to my post here.)

main debug: processing request item: SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO, node: Playlist, skip: 0
main debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
main debug: rebuild done - 5 items, index 4
main debug: starting playback of new item
main debug: resyncing on SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO
main debug: SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO is at 4
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO'
main debug: requesting art for new input thread
main debug: using timeshift granularity of 50 MiB
main debug: using timeshift path: C:\Users\WILDWI~1\AppData\Local\Temp
main debug: `file:///Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO' gives access `file' demux `any' path `/Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO'
main debug: creating demux: access='file' demux='any' location='/Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO' file='Q:\Golf\SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO'
main debug: looking for access_demux module matching "file": 15 candidates
main debug: no access_demux modules matched
main debug: creating access: file:///Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO
main debug: (path: Q:\Golf\SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO)
main debug: looking for access module matching "file": 26 candidates
main debug: looking for meta fetcher module matching "any": 1 candidates
main debug: using access module "filesystem"
main debug: looking for stream_filter module matching "prefetch,cache_read": 24 candidates
cache_read debug: Using stream method for AStream*
cache_read debug: starting pre-buffering
cache_read debug: received first data after 0 ms
cache_read debug: pre-buffering done 1024 bytes in 0s - 1000000 KiB/s
main debug: using stream_filter module "cache_read"
main debug: looking for stream_filter module matching "any": 24 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\fetcher
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\fetcher
main debug: no meta fetcher modules matched
main debug: looking for art finder module matching "any": 2 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\playlist
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\anevia_streams.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\anevia_xml.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\00_musicbrainz.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\appletrailers.luac
lua debug: skipping script (unmatched scope) C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\00_musicbrainz.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\01_googleimage.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\bbc_co_uk.luac
lua debug: skipping script (unmatched scope) C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\01_googleimage.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\02_frenchtv.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\cue.luac
lua debug: skipping script (unmatched scope) C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\02_frenchtv.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\dailymotion.luac
lua debug: skipping script (unmatched scope) C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac
main debug: no art finder modules matched
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\jamendo.luac
main debug: looking for meta fetcher module matching "any": 1 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\fetcher
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\fetcher
main debug: no meta fetcher modules matched
main debug: looking for art finder module matching "any": 2 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\koreus.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\liveleak.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\00_musicbrainz.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\newgrounds.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\01_googleimage.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\rockbox_fm_presets.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\02_frenchtv.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\soundcloud.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\twitch.luac
main debug: no art finder modules matched
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\vimeo.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\vocaroo.luac
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\playlist\youtube.luac
main debug: no stream_filter modules matched
main debug: looking for stream_directory module matching "any": 1 candidates
main debug: no stream_directory modules matched
main debug: attachment of directory-extractor failed for file:///Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO
main debug: looking for stream_filter module matching "record": 24 candidates
main debug: using stream_filter module "record"
main debug: creating demux: access='file' demux='any' location='/Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO' file='Q:\Golf\SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO'
main debug: looking for demux module matching "any": 55 candidates
main debug: looking for xml reader module matching "any": 1 candidates
main debug: using xml reader module "xml"
ts debug: TS module discarded (lost sync)
mod debug: MOD validation failed (ext=VRO)
main debug: using demux module "ps"
main debug: looking for a subtitle file in Q:\Golf\
main debug: looking for meta reader module matching "any": 2 candidates
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Users\WildWilly\AppData\Roaming\vlc\lua\meta\reader
lua debug: Trying Lua scripts in C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\reader
lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\lua\meta\reader\filename.luac
main debug: no meta reader modules matched
main debug: `file:///Q:/Golf/SwingingSkirtsRound1.VRO' successfully opened
ps warning: garbage at input, trying to resync...
ps warning: found sync code
ps debug: we found a length of: 21600s
main debug: selecting program id=0
main debug: looking for packetizer module matching "any": 24 candidates
main debug: using packetizer module "a52"
main debug: looking for audio decoder module matching "any": 23 candidates
main debug: reusing audio output
main error: too low audio sample frequency (0)
main debug: keeping audio output
main error: failed to create audio output
avcodec debug: using ffmpeg Lavc58.6.103
avcodec debug: CPU flags: 0x000fd3db
avcodec debug: codec (ac3) started
main debug: using audio decoder module "avcodec"
main debug: Buffering 0%
a52 debug: A/52 channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:128000
main debug: restarting module due to input format change
main debug: removing module "avcodec"
main debug: looking for packetizer module matching "any": 24 candidates
main debug: using packetizer module "mpegvideo"
main debug: looking for audio decoder module matching "any": 23 candidates
main debug: looking for video decoder module matching "any": 17 candidates
main debug: reusing audio output
avcodec debug: using ffmpeg Lavc58.6.103
main error: module not functional
avcodec debug: CPU flags: 0x000fd3db
main debug: keeping audio output
main error: failed to create audio output
avcodec debug: using ffmpeg Lavc58.6.103
avcodec debug: CPU flags: 0x000fd3db
avcodec debug: allowing 6 thread(s) for decoding
avcodec debug: codec (mpeg2video) started
main debug: using video decoder module "avcodec"
main debug: Buffering 1%
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avcodec debug: codec (ac3) started
main debug: Buffering 3%
main debug: using audio decoder module "avcodec"
mpegvideo debug: size 352x240/352x240 fps=29.970
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main debug: restarting module due to input format change
main debug: removing module "avcodec"
main debug: Buffering 14%
main debug: looking for video decoder module matching "any": 17 candidates
avcodec debug: using ffmpeg Lavc58.6.103
avcodec debug: CPU flags: 0x000fd3db
main debug: Buffering 15%
avcodec debug: allowing 6 thread(s) for decoding
avcodec debug: codec (mpeg2video) started
main debug: using video decoder module "avcodec"
main debug: Buffering 16%
main debug: Adding CC track 1 for es[1]
main debug: Adding CC track 2 for es[1]
main debug: Adding CC track 3 for es[1]
main debug: Adding CC track 4 for es[1]
main debug: Buffering 17%
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qt debug: IM: Setting an input
avcodec debug: available hardware decoder output format 119 (cuda)
avcodec debug: available hardware decoder output format 53 (dxva2_vld)
avcodec debug: available hardware decoder output format 118 (d3d11va_vld)
avcodec debug: available hardware decoder output format 174 (d3d11)
avcodec debug: available software decoder output format 0 (yuv420p)
avcodec debug: trying format d3d11va_vld
main debug: looking for text renderer module matching "any": 3 candidates
freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe
main debug: using text renderer module "freetype"
main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates
swscale debug: 32x32 (32x32) chroma: YUVA -> 16x16 (16x16) chroma: RGBA with scaling using Bicubic (good quality)
main debug: using video converter module "swscale"
main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates
yuvp debug: YUVP to YUVA converter
main debug: using video converter module "yuvp"
main debug: Deinterlacing available
main debug: deinterlace -1, mode auto, is_needed 0
main debug: looking for vout window module matching "qt,any": 3 candidates
qt debug: requesting video window...
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main debug: reusing audio output
main debug: looking for aout stream module matching "any": 2 candidates
wasapi debug: buffer size : 96000 frames
wasapi debug: maximum latency: 10666600 ns
wasapi debug: default period : 10000000 ns
wasapi debug: minimum period : 3000000 ns
main debug: using aout stream module "wasapi"
main debug: output 'f32l' 48000 Hz Dolby frame=1 samples/8 bytes
main debug: looking for audio volume module matching "any": 2 candidates
main debug: using audio volume module "float_mixer"
main debug: input 'f32l' 48000 Hz Stereo frame=1 samples/8 bytes
main debug: looking for audio filter module matching "scaletempo": 16 candidates
scaletempo debug: format: 48000 rate, 2 nch, 4 bps, fl32
scaletempo debug: params: 30 stride, 0.200 overlap, 14 search
scaletempo debug: 1.000 scale, 1440.000 stride_in, 1440 stride_out, 1152 standing, 288 overlap, 672 search, 2400 queue, fl32 mode
main debug: using audio filter module "scaletempo"
main debug: conversion: 'f32l'->'f32l' 48000 Hz->48000 Hz Stereo->Stereo
main debug: conversion pipeline complete
main debug: conversion: 'f32l'->'f32l' 48000 Hz->48000 Hz Stereo->Dolby
main debug: looking for audio converter module matching "any": 8 candidates
main debug: using audio converter module "trivial"
main debug: conversion pipeline complete
main debug: looking for audio resampler module matching "any": 3 candidates
main debug: using audio resampler module "samplerate"
main debug: Stream buffering done (309 ms in 275 ms)
main debug: resized to 1920x1080
main debug: resized to 352x240
main debug: using vout window module "qt"
main debug: looking for inhibit module matching "any": 1 candidates
main debug: using inhibit module "inhibit"
main debug: Opening vout display wrapper
main debug: looking for vout display module matching "any": 12 candidates
direct3d9 debug: Using Direct3D9 Extended API!
direct3d9 warning: cannot load Direct3D9 Shader Library; HLSL pixel shading will be disabled.
direct3d9 debug: creating Vout EventThread
direct3d9 debug: Win32VoutCreateWindow
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 352x240
direct3d9 debug: inclinometer not found. (hr=0x80070490)
direct3d9 debug: created video sub-window
direct3d9 debug: Vout EventThread running
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'fullscreen' 0
direct3d9 debug: D3D9 device caps 0x19AE50 / 0x51
direct3d9 debug: Direct3d9 Device: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 32902 1042 6
direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: NV12
direct3d9 debug: selected surface pixel format is NV12
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 374x319
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 scene created successfully
direct3d9 warning: Direct3D shaders initialization failed !
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 device adapter successfully initialized
main debug: using vout display module "direct3d9"
main debug: A filter to adapt decoder DX11 to display NV12 is needed
main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates
main debug: using video converter module "d3d11_filters"
main debug: Filter 'd3d11_filters' (000000002bf988a0) appended to chain
main debug: original format sz 352x240, of (0,0), vsz 352x240, 4cc DX11, sar 10:11, msk r0x0 g0x0 b0x0
main debug: removing module "freetype"
main debug: looking for text renderer module matching "any": 3 candidates
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 352x240
freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe
main error: Failed to set fullscreen
main debug: using text renderer module "freetype"
main debug: looking for hw decoder module matching "any": 2 candidates
main debug: no hw decoder modules matched
avcodec debug: trying format dxva2_vld
main debug: removing module "d3d11_filters"
main debug: Filter 000000002bf988a0 removed from chain
main debug: removing module "direct3d9"
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 scene released successfully
direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4
direct3d9 debug: Win32 Vout EventThread terminating
direct3d9 debug: Win32VoutCloseWindow
direct3d9 debug: WinProc WM_DESTROY
main debug: resized to 1920x1080
main debug: deinterlace -1, mode auto, is_needed 0
main debug: Opening vout display wrapper
main debug: looking for vout display module matching "any": 12 candidates
direct3d9 debug: Using Direct3D9 Extended API!
direct3d9 warning: cannot load Direct3D9 Shader Library; HLSL pixel shading will be disabled.
direct3d9 debug: creating Vout EventThread
direct3d9 debug: Win32VoutCreateWindow
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 1920x1080
direct3d9 debug: inclinometer not found. (hr=0x80070490)
direct3d9 debug: created video sub-window
direct3d9 debug: Vout EventThread running
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'fullscreen' 0
direct3d9 debug: D3D9 device caps 0x19AE50 / 0x51
direct3d9 debug: Direct3d9 Device: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 32902 1042 6
direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: DXA9
direct3d9 debug: selected surface pixel format is DXA9
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 374x295
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 scene created successfully
direct3d9 warning: Direct3D shaders initialization failed !
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 device adapter successfully initialized
main debug: using vout display module "direct3d9"
main debug: original format sz 352x240, of (0,0), vsz 352x240, 4cc DXA9, sar 10:11, msk r0x0 g0x0 b0x0
main debug: reusing provided vout
main debug: looking for hw decoder module matching "any": 2 candidates
dxva2 debug: Using Direct3D9 Extended API!
dxva2 debug: Reusing Direct3D9 device
dxva2 debug: CreateDevice succeed
dxva2 debug: OurDirect3DCreateDeviceManager9 Success!
dxva2 debug: obtained IDirect3DDeviceManager9
dxva2 debug: - 'MPEG-2 variable-length decoder' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'MPEG-2 inverse discrete cosine transform' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'VC-1 variable-length decoder 2 (Intel)' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'VC-1 variable-length decoder (Intel)' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'VC-1 variable-length decoder' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'H.264 variable-length decoder, no film grain technology' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'H.264 stereo high profile, mbs flag set' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'H.264 stereo high profile' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'H.264 multiview high profile' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'Unknown decoder 0x91cd2d6e-0x897b-0x4fa1-0xb0d751dc88010e0a' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'Unknown decoder 0x8c56eb1e-0x2b47-0x466f-0x8d337dbcd63f3df2' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'HEVC Main profile' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'Unknown decoder 0xa74ccae2-0xf466-0x45ae-0x86f5ab8be8af8483' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'Windows Media Video 9 IDCT' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'VC-1 inverse discrete cosine transform' is supported
dxva2 debug: - 'Unknown decoder 0x49761bec-0x4b63-0x4349-0xa5ff87ffdf088466' is supported
dxva2 debug: Trying to use 'MPEG-2 variable-length decoder' as input
dxva2 debug: NV12 is supported for output
dxva2 debug: Using decoder output 'NV12'
dxva2 warning: surface dimensions (352x256) differ from avcodec dimensions (352x240)
dxva2 debug: va_pool_SetupDecoder id 2 352x240 count: 6
dxva2 debug: IDirectXVideoAccelerationService_CreateSurface succeed with 6 surfaces (352x256)
dxva2 debug: we got 3 decoder configurations
dxva2 debug: configuration[0] ConfigBitstreamRaw 1
dxva2 debug: configuration[1] ConfigBitstreamRaw 1
dxva2 debug: configuration[2] ConfigBitstreamRaw 1
qt debug: Qt: Entering Fullscreen
main debug: VoutDisplayEvent 'resize' 1920x1080
main error: Failed to set fullscreen
dxva2 debug: IDirectXVideoDecoderService_CreateVideoDecoder succeed
main debug: using hw decoder module "dxva2"
avcodec info: Using DXVA2 (Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600, vendor Intel(32902), device 1042, revision 6) for hardware decoding
main debug: Received first picture
main debug: Decoder wait done in 255 ms
main debug: inserting 10550 zeroes
mmdevice debug: state changed: 1
main warning: picture is too late to be displayed (missing 38 ms)
main debug: picture might be displayed late (missing 5 ms)
main debug: auto hiding mouse cursor
main debug: picture might be displayed late (missing 10 ms)
main debug: picture might be displayed late (missing 6 ms)
main debug: toggling resume
mmdevice debug: state changed: 0
main debug: toggling resume
main debug: toggling pause
main debug: toggling pause
mmdevice debug: state changed: 1
main debug: incoming request - stopping current input
main debug: killing decoder fourcc `a52 '
main debug: removing module "avcodec"
mmdevice debug: state changed: 0
wasapi debug: reset
main debug: removing module "samplerate"
main debug: removing module "scaletempo"
main debug: removing module "trivial"
main debug: removing module "float_mixer"
main debug: keeping audio output
main debug: removing module "a52"
main debug: killing decoder fourcc `mpgv'
main debug: removing module "avcodec"
main debug: saving a free vout
main debug: reusing provided vout
main debug: removing module "mpegvideo"
main debug: removing module "ps"
main debug: Program doesn't contain anymore ES
main debug: removing module "record"
main debug: removing module "cache_read"
main debug: removing module "filesystem"
main debug: dead input
main debug: nothing to play
main debug: destroying useless vout
main debug: removing module "direct3d9"
direct3d9 debug: Direct3D9 scene released successfully
direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4
direct3d9 debug: Win32 Vout EventThread terminating
direct3d9 debug: Win32VoutCloseWindow
direct3d9 debug: WinProc WM_DESTROY
main debug: removing module "inhibit"
qt debug: releasing video...
qt debug: Qt: Quitting Fullscreen
qt debug: IM: Deleting the input
qt debug: Video is not needed anymore
main debug: removing module "freetype"
main debug: removing module "yuvp"
main debug: removing module "swscale"

For a sample file, I'm going to take the first 100Meg of the file from which I generated the above log & upload that. The entire file is just over 3G, a 6 hour recording. I'm going to assume the first 100Meg will be useful to you for debugging. If not, let me know & I'll come up with something else. I'll post the URL separately when I've uploaded it.

[GrampaWW]

https://www41.zippyshare.com/v/si5jfIUj/file.html

I've never used that site before. Is there some way to delete the file after you're done with it?

[Lotesdelere]

Thanks.
It will be automatically deleted after one month, IIRC.

[lsolesbee]

SUCCESS!!
while i could see the video from a DVD-RAM disk with Quicktime Player, VLC, AnyMP4, Filmora, Elmedia, Video Converter, Vidmore, 5kplayer and more, most had no method of exporting or transcoding. VLC did have a way to export, but not easy. Only in VLC could i skim and actually see the video beyond 2-hour mark. All the rest could only handle the 1st 2-hours. Most of my DVD-RAM disk wer just in 2-hour mde, but the important one, with all the family "treasures" of holiday activity were recorded on 6-hour mode. Only VLC could see that, but unable to transcode any of it.

DAWN: By chance watching a youtube on "How To Fix Left-Speaker-Only QuickTime Mic Recordings using HandBrake" by Michael Kinney | Pushing Pixels

HANDBRAKE !!!

Handbrake was able to "see" the entire 6-hours of the DVD-RAM and export it in a number of formats