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VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 17:36
by SteveA379
Does VLC not function well on Win-XP 32 ?
Thats the version of Wndows I'm running and many MP4 videos will not play on the recent version of VLC.

Generally, the audio will play, but, not the video portion.
This happens a lot on new smartphone videos, Drone videos and in general Newly created videos.
Older videos will usually play without issues.

Has anyone else experienced this ?

My Hardware is a 2006 Toshiba Satellite Laptop with:
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Series Video adapter.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 20:01
by Lotesdelere
I guess those MP4s are HD videos and may require hardware acceleration.
But DXVA2 GPU acceleration is not available on XP, you need Vista or newer.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 15:59
by bmc98nu
I'm having the same issues after the recent update to 3.0.3. All videos played fine before that, HD included.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 18:56
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Please share your logs then.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 20 Jun 2018 17:37
by bmc98nu
Please share your logs then.
I don't know what that means. Where do I find my logs?

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 21 Jun 2018 00:20
by iZqLGKmguN
Hello.

I have the same problem.

Screenshots: Files (video, settings, log): https://c.gmx.com/@591199875249476610/s ... b2oo5HLXZA

Thanks.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 00:08
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
i doubt this is the same issue.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 00:08
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Please share your logs then.
I don't know what that means. Where do I find my logs?
To help you, we need messages, to completely understand what your problems is.
To fix this, please be sure before you start the playback to:
  1. Open: Tools -> Messages.
  2. Set Verbosity to 2
  3. Start playback to reproduce your issue
  4. Save text in a file or copy into clipboard
  5. Then paste the full resulting log here between [​code]and[​/code] (or use Pastebin.com if it's too long)
Also don't forget to name your Operating System and provide the VLC media player version.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 06:54
by iZqLGKmguN
i doubt this is the same issue.
But I have exactly the same symptoms. There is no normal video part, but the sound from the movie is played normally.

Debug messages https://pastebin.com/gWb4Ab9j
Windows version: MS Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3

Thanks.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 10:26
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
i doubt this is the same issue.
But I have exactly the same symptoms. There is no normal video part, but the sound from the movie is played normally.

Debug messages https://pastebin.com/gWb4Ab9j
Windows version: MS Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3

Thanks.
You don't. You have broken videos, but OP says no videos on modern video/drones (which is probably HD videos on a slow machine).

But you should open a bugreport.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 22 Jun 2018 16:37
by iZqLGKmguN
You don't. You have broken videos, ...
No. This video is not broken. It is just a small example. I have many such videos. I can not upload them all here because they are large and they have content that is not acceptable to a wide audience. All these videos are perfectly played in VLC 2.2.6 and in "Light Allow", but they are not played in VLC 3.0.3.
But you should open a bugreport.
OK.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 10:46
by iZqLGKmguN
Hello.

Internet radio https://s2.t4radio.ru/radio/8030/64 did not opened in VLC player 3.0.12 on Windows XP SP3.
This internet radio opened normally in VLC player 3.0.12 on Windows 10.
This internet radio opened normally in VLC player 3.0.7.1 on Windows XP SP3.

Here is a part of the log from wrong working in Windows XP, in which the error is visible

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lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script U:\vlc-3.0.12-win32\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac main error: TLS client plugin not available access error: HTTP connection failure main debug: no access modules matched
I am assuming libgnutls_plugin.dll cannot be loaded. Dependency Walker shows that this library cannot find the GetFinalPathNameByHandleA() function in Kernel32.dll.

I tried putting libgnutls_plugin.dll from VLC player 3.0.7.1 into VLC player 3.0.12. And this Internet radio began to open normally.

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lua debug: Trying Lua playlist script U:\vlc-3.0.12-win32\lua\meta\art\03_lastfm.luac main debug: no art finder modules matched gnutls debug: loaded 123 trusted CAs from system main debug: using tls client module "gnutls" main debug: resolving s2.t4radio.ru ... qt debug: IM: Setting an input gnutls debug: TLS handshake: Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. gnutls debug: TLS handshake: Success. gnutls debug: - safe renegotiation (RFC5746) enabled gnutls debug: - extended master secret (RFC7627) enabled gnutls debug: - false start (RFC7918) enabled http debug: out SETTINGS (0x04) frame of 30 bytes, flags 0x00, global
Could you please fix this bug?

Thanks.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 15:35
by Hitchhiker
Could you please fix this bug?

Thanks.

Not going to happen: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... 76#p514576

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 18:56
by Rémi Denis-Courmont
The embedded GnuTLS version had to be updated to address functional issues and fix support problems on other platforms. We are not going to revert back to an old broken and unsupported (by GnuTLS developers) version and inflict bugs on every VLC users on Windows, Snap and Android, just to support Windows XP.

Besides Windows XP systems should not be connected to the Internet anyway, so TLS should be mostly useless.

You're welcome to contribute to GnuTLS to get it working again if you care though.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 20:27
by iZqLGKmguN
Besides Windows XP systems should not be connected to the Internet anyway, so TLS should be mostly useless.
I work in Windows XP every day on the Internet. For some reason, viruses bypass me. Don't listen to Microsoft marketers. They lie all the time. Blatant lies are the essence of modern marketing and advertising. Microsoft marketers will fool you into installing Windows 10.
You're welcome to contribute to GnuTLS to get it working again if you care though.
If I compile the latest version of GnuTLS for Windows XP, will you add it to VLC?

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 22:53
by Rémi Denis-Courmont
I work in Windows XP every day on the Internet.
That's plain irresponsible. Most software is no longer serviced on Windows XP, and thus full of bugs and security issues. And this is not just Microsoft marketing. It's the entire ecosystem - hardware vendors and software vendors included.

Case in point: you just regressed to an old buggy version of the GnuTLS library that is embedded in VLC...

And display drivers are so broken that the Windows VLC developer pretty much gave up.
If I compile the latest version of GnuTLS for Windows XP, will you add it to VLC?
No, that's not how VLC contribs are maintained. You need to get upstream GnuTLS fixed first.

Re: VLC on Win-XP

Posted: 05 Sep 2021 03:31
by boober
It's still YES.
VLC is still possible to play Youtube videos on XP. With all possible responsibility.
As it was told in parallel tread https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&p=519527 , the VLC v.2.2.6 does.
I just tested it on XP SP3 , with actual youtube.luac , of course (and, if it matters, the MS PosReady TLS1.2 update, but I'm still not sure if it's needed). On my old 2-core s478 laptop with G965 graphics, it runs perfectly in 1080p fullscreen.
And please no more a word about (ir)responsibility. In 2021, even viruses doesn't work on XP by default. The world's swallen with that 7s, 8s, 10s, infinities, and all that heavily vaccinated self-squashing stuff so no XP pandemic is possible by definition. ;)
Thanks in advance for future support!

UPD: With instrucions here https://www.emailarchitect.net/forum/po ... -EAGetMail on properly installing and turning on TLS 1.2 on XP, the VLC v.3.0.2 with actual youtube.luac plays youtube videos on XP. Just tested now.

The brief guide is:

Create POSReady.reg and paste there the following code

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\PosReady] "Installed"=dword:00000001
then download
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.co ... =kb4019276
and
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.co ... =KB4230450
both POSReady, Windows XP Embedded versions
For .reg file: click, accept merging to registry.
For each KB file: click, accept install, reboot. (For second KB it's necessary to have IE8 on Your system.)
Then change two registry values ("3.6.1.0.0" to "3.5.1.0.0")

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AdvancedOptions\CRYPTO\TLS1.1] "OSVersion"="3.5.1.0.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AdvancedOptions\CRYPTO\TLS1.2] "OSVersion"="3.5.1.0.0"
and add this to registry

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.1\Client] "DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.1\Server] "DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.2\Client] "DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.2\Server] "DisabledByDefault"=dword:00000000

UPD2: ...and VLC sequently upgraded to 3.0.3-3.0.7.1-3.0.16 works too :)

UPD3: ...and it's still possible to use the public lightweight Invidious instances to search for youtube id's of the clips You needed. ;)

UPD4: ...and also to go Tools-Preferences-All-InputCodecs-PreferredVideoResolution to set it to 360 or 480 to make it digestable for our ancient PCs :)