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VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 13 Feb 2018 19:12
by verbal_666
32 and 64 bit are identical? Obviously i'm talking about the code and the stability. Since i remember 64 bit version has always been "defined" "EXPERIMENTAL", in my memory. It's still SO, or NOT?

Thanks.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 14 Feb 2018 21:20
by verbal_666
So? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 18 Feb 2018 10:06
by verbal_666
UP! Someone reading?

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 18 Feb 2018 23:32
by phaolo
Me, but I don't know either. :P

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 20 Feb 2018 17:53
by chouquette
We now recommend using the 64bits version, we don't know of any win64 specific bugs so far.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 20 Feb 2018 18:56
by verbal_666
Thanks. Going finally to 64 bit. Make it visible in main download page, so :)

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 03:11
by phaolo
We now recommend using the 64bits version, we don't know of any win64 specific bugs so far.
Cool, but.. what about these critical bugs then?
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=142431

Btw, I reported such issues in the tracker, but the dev said they were a duplicate.
I couldn't find them in the 3.0.1 roadmap though.. :?

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 10:19
by chouquette
To be honest, those issues don't ring a bell. Could you point me to the ticket you created?

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 13:43
by phaolo
To be honest, those issues don't ring a bell. Could you point me to the ticket you created?
This (marked as invalid):
https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/19771

Those problems seem quite important to me.. I couldn't watch most MKV files in VLC3 due to them.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 14:13
by chouquette
About AC3: Are you using passthrough? Not being able to adjust the volume is expected for now (and not sure if it's possible since the volume is up to the decoder)

About AAC/flaC: could you provide your logs (extra -> tools -> verbosity: 2 -> start playback)

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 14:29
by InTheWings
64 -> 32 issues are usually integer overflows

assembly code can also differ

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 21 Feb 2018 20:58
by phaolo
About AC3: Are you using passthrough? Not being able to adjust the volume is expected for now (and not sure if it's possible since the volume is up to the decoder)
What do you mean with "passthrough"?
Also.. AC3 worked normally with VLC 2.2.8 x64, so why such regression is now "expected" in v3?
About AAC/flaC: could you provide your logs (extra -> tools -> verbosity: 2 -> start playback)
Eh damn, I had to revert ASAP to the old version, due to these major problems.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 22 Feb 2018 08:55
by chouquette
Passthrough means VLC will just forward the audio data to your sound device (usually an AV amplifier) which will decode it itself. In this case, VLC doesn't decode nor output any audio data, and can't adjust the volume (or at least this is my understanding)
It should be easy to figure out if that's the case for you or not, but we also need the logs for that.

We need some logs & samples from you to investigate & fix this.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 22 Feb 2018 17:40
by phaolo
Thanks. Going finally to 64 bit. Make it visible in main download page, so :)
Did you try the x64 version, then?
Can you test MKVs with AC3 and AAC?
If not, I guess I'll have to reinstall the clunky v3 to obtain those logs..

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 22 Feb 2018 18:20
by chouquette
Just tried it again, and it works fine for me.

You can also try a more recent version, just in case: https://nightlies.videolan.org/build/wi ... 0222-0506/

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 02:10
by phaolo
Just tried it again, and it works fine for me.
You can also try a more recent version, just in case
Ok, I've installed v3.0.1 and the problems are still there.
I've created a log.. how do I attach it here? :?
(btw, there's no "extra" menu, I had to search for the log entry in the options)

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Ok, I'll add it here directly.
I removed the repeating parts by adding this: [..]
All the rest is untouched, despite some weird formats.

Actions performed:
1- opened VLC
2- played a MKV with AC3 (max vol!?)
3- lowered volume (without effect)
4- played a MKV with AAC (muted!?)
5- increased volume (without effect)
6- jumped to 5:00 (some slowness)
7- played a MKV with FLAC (muted!?)
8- quit VLC

Code: Select all

-- logger module started -- main: one instance mode ENABLED -- logger module started -- main: one instance mode ENABLED main: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. main: playlist is empty main error: too low audio sample frequency (0) main error: failed to create audio output main error: too low audio sample frequency (0) main error: failed to create audio output avcodec warning: refusing to decode non validated subtitle codec freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe direct3d11 error: Could not Create the D3D11 device. (hr=0x80004001) direct3d11 error: Direct3D11 could not be opened direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: NV12 d3d11_filters warning: no context available main error: option chain-level does not exist main error: option chain-level does not exist d3d11_filters warning: no context available d3d11_filters warning: no context available chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter [..] chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video convert-- logger module started -- main: one instance mode ENABLED er main error: Failed to create video converter d3d11_filters warning: no context available chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter [..] chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to compensate for the format changes, removing all filters freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe d3d11va error: D3D11CreateDevice failed. (hr=0x80004001) d3d11va error: Failed to create device direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 direct3d11 error: Could not Create the D3D11 device. (hr=0x80004001) direct3d11 error: Direct3D11 could not be opened direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: DXA9 avcodec: Using DXVA2 (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, vendor NVIDIA(4318), device 7041, revision 161) for hardware decoding direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 faad warning: decoded zero sample freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline direct3d11 error: Could not Create the D3D11 device. (hr=0x80004001) direct3d11 error: Direct3D11 could not be opened direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: X8R8G8B8 chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter [..] chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to create video converter main error: Failed to adapt decoder format to display main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 main error: failed to create audio output main error: video output creation failed main error: failed to create video output freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d11 error: Could not Create the D3D11 device. (hr=0x80004001) direct3d11 error: Direct3D11 could not be opened direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: DXA9_10 main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe dxva2 warning: Unsupported profile 2 for HEVC Main profile dxva2 warning: surface dimensions (1920x1152) differ from avcodec dimensions (1920x1080) main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output avcodec: Using DXVA2 (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, vendor NVIDIA(4318), device 7041, revision 161) for hardware decoding main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output [..] main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: buffer deadlock prevented main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output [..] main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main er-- logger module started -- main: one instance mode ENABLED ror: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output [..] main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d11 error: Could not Create the D3D11 device. (hr=0x80004001) direct3d11 error: Direct3D11 could not be opened direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: YUY2 freetype warning: DirectWrite initialization failed. Falling back to GDI/Uniscribe avcodec warning: plane 0 not aligned: disabling direct rendering main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output [..] main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output main error: buffer deadlock prevented main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output [..] main error: cannot find remixer for conversion pipeline main error: cannot setup filtering pipeline main error: failed to create audio output direct3d9 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4 -- logger module stopped --
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EDIT: the Code block doesn't consider new lines? :shock:

Please tell me how to post the log properly and if you need more tests, so I'll revert to the working v2 ASAP.

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 11:27
by chouquette
Pastebin.com or any equivalent service would probably work :)

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 11:28
by chouquette
Also, it seems you're logging errors & main information only. Please run with -vv or --verbose=2 (or select the appropriate verbose level in tools -> messages)

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:08
by phaolo
Also, it seems you're logging errors & main information only. Please run with -vv or --verbose=2 (or select the appropriate verbose level in tools -> messages)
What's the appropriate message tho.
I have: default, info, error, warning, debug
Do you need the last one?
Pastebin.com or any equivalent service would probably work
Mm.. what a drag :P
I'll check if I have something already, don't want to register to the Nth service.
(fix your forum pls)

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Btw, I noticed that we're writing in the wrong thread.
Can you move these posts to the other relevant one here?

Re: VLC 32 vs 64 - A final concept

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:44
by chouquette
pastebin is registration free!

Debug level please