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Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 29 Jun 2021 23:39

I've got a 4K HDR MKV video file. When I use the snapshot feature, the resulting image is a grey, washed-out shot missing most of its colour. What can I do to fix this?

While I'm at it, is there a way to exclude the black bars on the tops/sides from the snapshot? I also know these bars aren't part of the video itself.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 30 Jun 2021 15:38

Please open Tools -> Messages (set Verbosity to 2) before you start the playback, and then paste the full resulting log here or on Pastebin.com if it's too long.

And upload a short sample of your original problematic file to Zippyshare.com or to WeTransfer.com and then post the link to the file here.
https://www.zippyshare.com
https://wetransfer.com

If needed cut it with DGsplit and read here about how to do it:
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... 35#p193335
100 MB max should be enough.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 30 Jun 2021 16:47

Please open Tools -> Messages (set Verbosity to 2) before you start the playback, and then paste the full resulting log here or on Pastebin.com if it's too long.

And upload a short sample of your original problematic file to Zippyshare.com or to WeTransfer.com and then post the link to the file here.
https://www.zippyshare.com
https://wetransfer.com

If needed cut it with DGsplit and read here about how to do it:
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... 35#p193335
100 MB max should be enough.
But I can't open the video without it playing. How can I open the tools before it starts?

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 01 Jul 2021 15:09

You run VLC, you open Tools -> Messages, you set Verbosity to 2 and then you open the video and save the log at the end.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 02 Jul 2021 18:22

You run VLC, you open Tools -> Messages, you set Verbosity to 2 and then you open the video and save the log at the end.
Do I have to watch the whole thing? It's three hours.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 03 Jul 2021 09:41

No, you can stop it after 30 seconds.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 03 Jul 2021 10:17

No, you can stop it after 30 seconds.
Done. You mentioned "the log at the end." Is it this thing? It's from the Messages window.

main error: Timestamp conversion failed for 184643001: no reference clock
main error: Could not convert timestamp 0 for FFmpeg
direct3d11 error: SetThumbNailClip failed: 0x800706f4

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 04 Jul 2021 10:11

Read my first post again, carefully.
I asked for the FULL log, from the very beginning to the very end AND for a sample file.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 04 Jul 2021 10:26

Read my first post again, carefully.
I asked for the FULL log, from the very beginning to the very end AND for a sample file.
Yes, I know about that stuff.

But WHERE is the log?

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 05 Jul 2021 11:56

Where you saved it using the Save As button.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 06 Jul 2021 20:47

Where you saved it using the Save As button.
VLC doesn't have a "Save As" button that I can see.

There's nothing where the video file is saved either (aside from the video file itself).

I made sure to set verbosity to 2, watched over a minute (and much more) of footage, but still nothing.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 06 Jul 2021 23:03

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 07 Jul 2021 19:44

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Here's the log. I'll work on getting the sample too.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/axd14jd852ed18e/log.log?dl=0

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 08 Jul 2021 13:40

This log is quite empty :?
As I said, you MUST open the messages window BEFORE playing the video. I don't see the opening sequence in your log so you haven't done it.

And you have paused the video. I've never asked you to do that, never. I said you can STOP it after 30 seconds.

I strongely suggest you to read carefully my posts again and to apply instructions step by step.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 08 Jul 2021 20:26

This log is quite empty :?
As I said, you MUST open the messages window BEFORE playing the video. I don't see the opening sequence in your log so you haven't done it.

And you have paused the video. I've never asked you to do that, never. I said you can STOP it after 30 seconds.

I strongely suggest you to read carefully my posts again and to apply instructions step by step.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/axd14jd852ed18e/log.log?dl=0

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 09 Jul 2021 13:36

OK, fine, but you have forgotten to make a screenshot during the playback, which is your issue.
And we do need a sample file because I've tried with many HEVC 10-bit videos and I can't reproduce the problem. Check post #2.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 10 Jul 2021 10:36

OK, fine, but you have forgotten to make a screenshot during the playback, which is your issue.
And we do need a sample file because I've tried with many HEVC 10-bit videos and I can't reproduce the problem. Check post #2.
I didn't forget anything. No mention was made that I needed to take a snapshot for the log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/axd14jd852ed18e/log.log?dl=0

As for the video, a friend said the problem must be because I don't have an HDR display so "tone-mapping" hasn't been properly applied to the snapshots, and that I need to find a way around this.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 10 Jul 2021 11:12

The screenshot is done internally, it has nothing to do with your display but it might have something to do with the driver of your graphics card.

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main debug: using encoder module "png" main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain debug: Trying to build resize+chroma main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates main debug: no video converter modules matched main error: Failed to create video converter chain debug: Trying to build chroma+resize main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain debug: Trying to use chroma I420 as middle man main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main debug: no video converter modules matched main error: Failed to create video converter chain debug: Trying to use chroma I422 as middle man main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main debug: no video converter modules matched main error: Failed to create video converter chain debug: Trying to use chroma I0AL as middle man main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates main debug: using video converter module "d3d11_filters" main debug: Filter 'd3d11_filters' (000001a670e855b0) appended to chain main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates swscale debug: 3840x2160 (3840x2176) chroma: I0AL -> 3840x2160 (3840x2176) chroma: RV24 with scaling using Bicubic (good quality) main debug: using video converter module "swscale" main debug: Filter 'Swscale' (000001a670e85920) appended to chain main debug: using video converter module "chain" main debug: Filter 'chain' (000001a670e85240) appended to chain main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates swscale debug: 3840x2160 (3840x2176) chroma: RV24 -> 3840x2160 (3840x2160) chroma: RV24 with scaling using Bicubic (good quality) main debug: using video converter module "swscale" main debug: Filter 'Swscale' (000001a66989d910) appended to chain main debug: using video converter module "chain" main debug: removing module "png" main debug: removing module "chain" main debug: removing module "chain" main debug: removing module "d3d11_filters" main debug: Filter 000001a670e855b0 removed from chain main debug: removing module "swscale" main debug: Filter 000001a670e85920 removed from chain main debug: Filter 000001a670e85240 removed from chain main debug: removing module "swscale" main debug: Filter 000001a66989d910 removed from chain main debug: snapshot taken (D:\Libraries\Pictures\DC\Movies\Batman v Superman - Dawn of Justice\Screenshots - Remastered\vlcsnap-2021-07-10-09h30m09s024.png) main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain debug: Trying to use chroma I420 as middle man main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain debug: Trying to use chroma I422 as middle man main debug: looking for video converter module matching "any": 24 candidates chain error: Too high level of recursion (3) main debug: no video converter modules matched main error: Failed to create video converter

I suspect your file to be HEVC 10-bit 4:2:2 but I still can't reproduce the issue with such files I have. Even an HEVC 12-bit 4:4:4 makes correct screenshots on my system.
This is the reason why we DO need a sample of your file. Please upload one, check post #2.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 10 Jul 2021 19:46

The screenshot is done internally, it has nothing to do with your display but it might have something to do with the driver of your graphics card.

I suspect your file to be HEVC 10-bit 4:2:2 but I still can't reproduce the issue with such files I have. Even an HEVC 12-bit 4:4:4 makes correct screenshots on my system.
This is the reason why we DO need a sample of your file. Please upload one, check post #2.
Is this right?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0pzlg0tb8tlsr ... 0.mkv?dl=0

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 11 Jul 2021 10:59


It is. And that's really an interesting sample.

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Video Format : HEVC Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Writing library : ATEME Titan File 3.9.6 (4.9.6.2) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 699 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 530 cd/m2

Please, could you provide a longer sample file ? Say 200 or 300 MB.
And I can reproduce the issue with this sample, the colors of the screenshots are wrong while other players are doing it right.

You should create a new ticket on the VLC Trac with your above report, the link to your sample file, and the link to this thread:
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 11 Jul 2021 17:47


It is. And that's really an interesting sample.


Please, could you provide a longer sample file ? Say 200 or 300 MB.
And I can reproduce the issue with this sample, the colors of the screenshots are wrong while other players are doing it right.

You should create a new ticket on the VLC Trac with your above report, the link to your sample file, and the link to this thread:
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues
Thanks. I have two questions.

When I followed the instructions using DGSplit, it spent ages creating 100 100MB samples instead of just 1 100MB sample. What did I do wrong? If I can fix this, I'll submit the ticket (and provide you the larger sample) regardless of the response to the following question.

You mentioned other players. Do you have any suggestions for good (free) players that can take proper HD snapshots? Preferably one that can display frame numbers and exclude black bars from the snapshots.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 12 Jul 2021 13:36

In DGsplit, you need to tick the option "Stop after x chunk(s) written". Set it to 1 chunk.

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You can try MPC-HC and MPV. I don't know if they can show the frame number.
But the black bars are part of your video, it has been encoded like that. And the image has an usual aspect ratio (~1.42). There is not much you can do but to use the VLC crop video filter when playing back: menu Tools -> Effects and Filters -> Video Effects -> Crop

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 12 Jul 2021 14:08

In DGsplit, you need to tick the option "Stop after x chunk(s) written". Set it to 1 chunk.

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You can try MPC-HC and MPV. I don't know if they can show the frame number.
But the black bars are part of your video, it has been encoded like that. And the image has an usual aspect ratio (~1.42). There is not much you can do but to use the VLC crop video filter when playing back: menu Tools -> Effects and Filters -> Video Effects -> Crop
Thanks. Here's the 300MB sample. Please let me know if it helped or not. https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7m05ydeixuo3 ... 0.mkv?dl=0

I'll check out those players.

I'll work on the ticket. I didn't think signing up was such a process.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Dantius55 » 16 Jul 2021 12:53

In DGsplit, you need to tick the option "Stop after x chunk(s) written". Set it to 1 chunk.

You can try MPC-HC and MPV. I don't know if they can show the frame number.
But the black bars are part of your video, it has been encoded like that. And the image has an usual aspect ratio (~1.42). There is not much you can do but to use the VLC crop video filter when playing back: menu Tools -> Effects and Filters -> Video Effects -> Crop
New development. I tried MPC-HC, and the colours are washed out for the video itself, not just the screenshots.

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Re: Washed-Out HDR Snapshots

Postby Lotesdelere » 17 Jul 2021 10:23

With MPC-HC you should use madVR renderer:
http://www.madvr.com


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