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very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby cybmole » 18 Mar 2012 10:09

upgraded to v2.0

I now get a ~20second delay when I first launch VLC after windows startup.

but only on 1st use - it is fine thereafter.

a pain to debug as a reboot would be needed for each test!

any suggestions as to what settigns could be causing these or for how to log the initial start up next time around ?

the obvious suspect is that the're a hidden online "check for updates" process running on 1st usage, even though that is NOT set in preferences ?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby VLC_help » 18 Mar 2012 13:30

Update check is threaded. So it won't slowdown startup. Only thing that comes to my mind is that your %appdata%\vlc folder is wiped during restart, and VLC has to generate cache again.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby cybmole » 18 Mar 2012 15:21

Update check is threaded. So it won't slowdown startup. Only thing that comes to my mind is that your %appdata%\vlc folder is wiped during restart, and VLC has to generate cache again.
that would only happen if I had some clean up app - like ccleaner - running at startup or at shutdown, yes?

I don't think I have but I will check that next time. I am 99% certain though that I did dot have this behaviour in vlc1.1 it started only after upgrading to vlc 2.0

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby cybmole » 19 Mar 2012 07:58

ccleaner is not the cause of slow start. it only removes recent art, not the whole cache. I have tested run clcleaner - then open VLC.- I get no slowdown. also, if I was losing my %appdata%\vlc folder then Id be losing my customised controls & would notice that immediately ?

I also noticed a single slow start instance on my other PC. After leaving it in sleep mode overnight. VLC took about 10 secs to load ( & this is a much faster dual core 2.7Ghz processor). but again just the one slow instance, it now opens every time about 1 second or less.

in both installs, check for updates is OFF, and for my recent tests I simply launched the player only from a taskbar right-click ( windows 7), I did not launch by double click on a media file

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Job61 » 17 Mar 2018 01:45

I am having same issue - 10-20 second delay in initial load, whether clicking on app shortcut or a media file like MP3. Windows 10 Pro x64. VLC 2.2.8 Weatherwax. Had the same issue on older computer which broke. Never resolved. Same situation on older and newer.

I have looked in options for a checkbox to start with windows so that it loads in the background, preferably minimized. No luck.

Any resolution to this?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 30 Mar 2018 00:59

Same issue here. Never had this issue before, it started recently.
And I have a very good computer, so it's not the issue (SSD NVMe, 16Gb of RAM at 3000 MHz, AMD Ryzen 7 1700X...).

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby chouquette » 30 Mar 2018 16:33

Could you check that you have a (non-empty) file named "plugins.dat" in your vlc install directory\plugins ?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 31 Mar 2018 13:06

Could you check that you have a (non-empty) file named "plugins.dat" in your vlc install directory\plugins ?
I do have this file. 285 Ko

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 12 Apr 2018 14:02

Update?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 02 May 2018 22:30

Hello?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 09 Jun 2018 18:49

Is it possible to get any help?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 09 Jun 2018 20:31

10-20 seconds delay on a cold disk cache is very normal on Windows. One obvious problem is that Windows does not use PIC, so loading DLLs is slow. In the case of VLC, GUI plugin is especially prone to this. There are no ways to fix this, other than start VLC every time you (re)boot.

Regardless, if you think the delay is abnormally long for your system, then you will need to narrow down the problem yourself. It is unfortunately unlikely that somebody else can figure out the alleged problem without access to your computer.
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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby r87276 » 18 Aug 2018 10:15

This is caused by DirectX 9 video output plugin. I managed to fix this by selecting/forcing different plugin in Advanced Settings.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 01 Jan 2020 20:53

Old topic, but I've been using VLC more recently and this is still an issue. VLC is still taking at least 5s to start. And no, it's not a "cold disk cache" thing, I have VLC installed on a NVMe SSD wth a 3000 Mo/s read/write speed, and VLC is the only software that have a noticable slow startup. Even Electron apps are faster to start than VLC.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby jayR » 03 Jan 2020 21:02

It might be your computer that is slow. Initial startup takes longer than subsequent startups. I upgraded to 8GB memory. Then initial startup also shorten to 2 ~ 3 second.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby ThibaultV » 12 Jan 2020 17:37

It might be your computer that is slow. Initial startup takes longer than subsequent startups. I upgraded to 8GB memory. Then initial startup also shorten to 2 ~ 3 second.
No. Ryzen 7 3700X, RTX 2080 Super, 16 Gb of RAM.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Lotesdelere » 13 Jan 2020 10:40

For me it happens either once after a cold reboot or once after the antivirus update.
Since it's done and cached, VLC opens in less than a second.

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Jack007 » 03 Jul 2023 13:45

To bump this thread.....

I've got 2 separate VLC versions (both 3.0.18) running om my PC (AMD 7800X3D, 32 GB, latest W11 pro). One version is a portable (extracted the 7z/zip package to a folder) which is running from my C: drive (SSD WD Black 850x, under C:\vlc). The other VLC version is installed as a standard windows install (install exe or msi under c:\program files\videolan).

The portable version suffers from the slow startup on the first run (about 3-4 sec.). After the first run VLC starts quick (within 1 sec).
The installed version starts quick (within 1 sec.) on the first run.

So for some reason Windows runs VLC differently or has to check extra things. Any thoughts in that?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 03 Jul 2023 17:39

The portable versions are not made by VideoLAN.org, so hard to say...
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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Jack007 » 03 Jul 2023 17:44

With portable version I mean the official VLC versions (NOT the portableApps version).
Just download the official 7z or zip VLC archive and unpack its contents to a folder (and run VLC.exe).

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 03 Jul 2023 21:23

That's slower because it doesn't have a proper plugins cache, as noted up-thread.
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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Jack007 » 03 Jul 2023 21:59

Thanks for the pointer. I searched for that and found this post: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... 62#p482462
I recreated the plugin cache manually: vlc-cache-gen c:\vlc\plugins
and now VLC start with the speed as expected. Problem solved.

One remaining question; Is there a reason why this doesn't work for a portable install?

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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Rémi Denis-Courmont » 04 Jul 2023 11:02

You can't have it both ways. If you don't run an installer there's nothing to generate the cache.
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Re: very slow start up on 1st usage only

Postby Jack007 » 04 Jul 2023 19:36

Ah OK. I thought it was a dynamic issue.
So, once the cache is generated VLC is good to go.


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