Flac now juddering when I play with 2.1.1

[Kraftwerk]

Is it possible to find out what version I had before I updated to this latest version and go back to it?

Thanks

[kodela]

The version can you find in Menu -> Help -> About
and over the side
http://download.videolan.org/vlc/
can you get earlier versions.

[Datacide]

I'm having the same problem. Seems to be worse at the beginning and end of the tracks. Anybody have any ideas for a fix?

[Lotesdelere]

Yes, the issue has been spotted and addressed (see ticket 9442 and ticket 9863) and should now be fixed.

Hopefully there will be a v2.1.2 release soon, meanwhile you can try a v2.1.2 nightly build.

P.S.: Looks like the nightly builds are frozen for some days so you also have to wait for v2.1.2-NB to get unstuck.

[Eddie B.]

I just downloaded and installed 2.1.1 and the problem remains. The first 3 or 4 seconds of a Flac file judder on the first track of every file I've tried. It also happens at the beginning of some (but not all) later tracks. I'll go back to 2.1.0 for now. Just wished to let you know.

[Datacide]

Yes, the issue has been spotted and addressed (see ticket 9442 and ticket 9863) and should now be fixed.

Hopefully there will be a v2.1.2 release soon, meanwhile you can try a v2.1.2 nightly build.

P.S.: Looks like the nightly builds are frozen for some days so you also have to wait for v2.1.2-NB to get unstuck.

Yeah, I used both the 32-bit/64-bit versions and just tried, 2.2.0 (nightly)...that's got worse issues. I'll just revert to pre-2 version until the next official release. Thanks though!

[Eddie B.]

Yeah, I used both the 32-bit/64-bit versions and just tried, 2.2.0 (nightly)...that's got worse issues. I'll just revert to pre-2 version until the next official release. Thanks though!

The 2.1.0 build is not giving me any problems, so try that. I'm running Win 7 64 bit.

[Datacide]

The 2.1.0 build is not giving me any problems, so try that. I'm running Win 7 64 bit.

Oh wow! Yes, that does seem to work. I just grabbed it and can't say 100% for sure, but I skipped through about 20 tracks and nothing is juddering and acting weird.

Thanks a lot!

[iffer]

Looks like something is still lurking in there... playing a flac 96k/24b with 2.2.0 git 20131126-0016 (who's idea was it to make the version on copy/paste friendly?). nb - it's not all high rate flac, but this one is terrible - and plays fine with fubar...
I'm getting stuttering with these warnings in the log:
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 69359 us)
main warning: playback too late (70360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 70360 us)
main warning: playback too late (72359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 72359 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 13416: 0x694b != 0x5148
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (18764 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main warning: playback too late (67359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 67359 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 13410: 0x3759 != 0x5066
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (24688 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main warning: playback too late (68360): up-sampling

I can paste a full log, if desired, but here's the setup/header and a few of the bad packet messages:
main debug: processing request item: Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas, node: Playlist, skip: 0
main debug: resyncing on Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas
main debug: Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas is at 0
main debug: starting playback of the new playlist item
main debug: resyncing on Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas
main debug: Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas is at 0
main debug: creating new input thread
main debug: Creating an input for 'Sonata V in F Major ZWV. 181/5 - [Adagio] from Zelenka: Sonatas'
main debug: using timeshift granularity of 50 MiB, in path 'C:\Users\purr\AppData\Local\Temp'
main debug: `file:///M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac' gives access `file' demux `' path `/M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac'
main debug: creating demux: access='file' demux='' location='/M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac' file='M:\Music Workdir\samplers\Linn masters\01 - Sonata V in F Major ZWV 181 5 - Adagio from Zelenka Sonatas.flac'
main debug: looking for access_demux module matching "file": 12 candidates
main debug: no access_demux modules matched
main debug: creating access 'file' location='/M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac', path='M:\Music Workdir\samplers\Linn masters\01 - Sonata V in F Major ZWV 181 5 - Adagio from Zelenka Sonatas.flac'
main debug: looking for access module matching "file": 20 candidates
filesystem debug: opening file `M:\Music Workdir\samplers\Linn masters\01 - Sonata V in F Major ZWV 181 5 - Adagio from Zelenka Sonatas.flac'
main debug: using access module "filesystem"
main debug: Using stream method for AStream*
main debug: starting pre-buffering
main debug: received first data after 0 ms
main debug: pre-buffering done 1024 bytes in 0s - 1000000 KiB/s
main debug: looking for stream_filter module matching "any": 6 candidates
main debug: no stream_filter modules matched
main debug: looking for stream_filter module matching "record": 6 candidates
main debug: using stream_filter module "record"
main debug: creating demux: access='file' demux='' location='/M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac' file='M:\Music Workdir\samplers\Linn masters\01 - Sonata V in F Major ZWV 181 5 - Adagio from Zelenka Sonatas.flac'
main debug: looking for demux module matching "flac": 65 candidates
main debug: looking for packetizer module matching "any": 21 candidates
main debug: using packetizer module "packetizer_flac"
main debug: using demux module "flacsys"
main debug: looking for a subtitle file in M:\Music Workdir\samplers\Linn masters\
main debug: looking for meta reader module matching "any": 2 candidates
main debug: using meta reader module "taglib"
main debug: removing module "taglib"
main debug: `file:///M:/Music%20Workdir/samplers/Linn%20masters/01%20-%20Sonata%20V%20in%20F%20Major%20ZWV%20181%205%20-%20Adagio%20from%20Zelenka%20Sonatas.flac' successfully opened
main debug: selecting program id=0
main debug: looking for decoder module matching "any": 39 candidates
main debug: using decoder module "flac"
main debug: Buffering 0%
flac debug: decode STREAMINFO
flac debug: channels:2 samplerate:192000 bitspersamples:24
flac debug: STREAMINFO decoded
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12924: 0xcbb6 != 0xc97
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (19829 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main debug: Buffering 7%
main debug: reusing audio output
directsound debug: Opening DirectSound Audio Output
main debug: Buffering 14%
main debug: Buffering 21%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12933: 0x5eff != 0x9c22
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (17170 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main debug: Buffering 28%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12978: 0x5d28 != 0xfeba
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (24056 > 15926), couldn't find start code
qt4 debug: IM: Setting an input
main debug: Buffering 35%
main debug: Buffering 42%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12943: 0x1eb6 != 0x8d0f
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (17887 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main debug: Buffering 49%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12945: 0x77c1 != 0x5281
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (24788 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main debug: Buffering 56%
main debug: Buffering 64%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12986: 0x6f3d != 0xd604
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (18644 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main debug: Buffering 71%
main debug: Buffering 78%
main debug: Buffering 85%
main debug: Buffering 92%
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12990: 0x1f87 != 0xfbb0
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (19416 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main debug: Buffering 99%
main debug: Stream buffering done (320 ms in 8 ms)
directsound debug: VLC speaker config: 5.1
directsound debug: couldn't use hardware sound buffer
directsound debug: channel reordering needed
main debug: output 'f32l' 192000 Hz 3F2R/LFE frame=1 samples/24 bytes
main debug: looking for audio volume module matching "any": 2 candidates
main debug: using audio volume module "float_mixer"
main debug: input 's32l' 192000 Hz Stereo frame=1 samples/8 bytes
main debug: conversion: 's32l'->'f32l' 192000 Hz->192000 Hz Stereo->3F2R/LFE
main debug: looking for audio converter module matching "any": 12 candidates
audio_format debug: s32l->f32l, bits per sample: 32->32
main debug: using audio converter module "audio_format"
main debug: looking for audio converter module matching "any": 12 candidates
main debug: using audio converter module "trivial_channel_mixer"
main debug: conversion pipeline complete
main debug: looking for audio resampler module matching "none": 3 candidates
main debug: no audio resampler modules matched
main debug: End of audio preroll
main debug: Decoder buffering done in 21 ms
main debug: inserting 1728 zeroes
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12981: 0xbc16 != 0xa97c
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (16678 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 13007: 0xe761 != 0x8aa2
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (23449 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12995: 0xa51 != 0x501
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (17310 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 13026: 0x527c != 0x3cd0
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (24069 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main warning: playback too late (61000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 61000 us)
main warning: playback too late (62000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 62000 us)
main warning: playback too late (63000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 63000 us)
main warning: playback too late (64000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 64000 us)
main warning: playback too late (65000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 65000 us)
main warning: playback too late (66000): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 66000 us)
main warning: playback too late (66360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 66360 us)
main warning: playback too late (67359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 67359 us)
main warning: playback too late (68359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 68359 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12969: 0xcdf5 != 0xd15b
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (17903 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main warning: playback too late (71360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 71360 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 13014: 0xa676 != 0x617e
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (24688 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main warning: playback too late (68359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 68359 us)
main warning: playback too late (69359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 69359 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12961: 0x1fe3 != 0x47a0
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (18485 > 15926), couldn't find start code
main warning: playback too late (73360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 73360 us)
main warning: playback too late (73359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 73359 us)
main warning: playback too late (74359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 74359 us)
main warning: playback too late (76360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 76360 us)
packetizer_flac warning: Bad CRC for frame size 12998: 0xab75 != 0x6f8c
packetizer_flac warning: Frame is too big (19024 > 15926), couldn't find start code
packetizer_flac debug: emulated sync word
main warning: playback too late (69359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 69359 us)
main warning: playback too late (71359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 71359 us)
main warning: playback too late (71360): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 71360 us)
main warning: playback too late (73359): up-sampling
main debug: resampling stopped (drift: 73359 us)

[foxmuldr]

Same thing in 2.2.0 11/26 build -- clicks, skips, generally choppy playback. 2.1.2 seems to work fine.

[Raven7]

I'm not sure what Juddering is, but when I upgraded to 2.1.1 when I try to move the progress bar thru the video I got all kinds of multi colored bars and pixelation.
I uninstalled 2.1.1 and happened to find a copy of 2.0.3 in my files. Plays perfectly.

A side note on this.
With 2.1.1 installed Zoomplayer also "juddered" with 2.03 installed both worked perfectly.

[Eddie B.]

Raven7 wrote I'm not sure what Juddering is, but

This thread is about audio files, FLAC specifically. Judder is the audio version of jitter- stop, jump- stop, jump... I don't do much with video, but just checked with a DVD and had no problem with v 2.1.0 if you want to try that. A link for prior versions is in second post from the top. I have no answer about Zoomplayer, I'd not heard of it before. 2 comments up from you it was mentioned 2.1.2 seemed to be working. I assume they meant nightly build. I will stick with 2.1.0 for now. Stay well.

[NoahVail]

I have problems playing FLAC files in 2.2.0 Nightly

* ver = 2.2.0-git-20131129-0403 64bit
on Win 7 Ult 64bit w/ AMD A8 + 8GB Ram

* I am also getting "Bad CRC for frame size" and "Frame is too big" errors in 2.2.0 Nightly.

* In 2.1.1, VLC would repeatedly pause for about ¼ of a second - during quiet parts of the audio only
In 2.2.0 VLC seems to repeatedly skip miniscule portions of the file. The event seems much quicker than above (maybe tenth of sec).

* I've seen no difference between playing a file from a LAN SMB location - and playing the file locally

* The issue also occurred in builds from 11/27 and 11/26

* I tried adjusting the Input->Advanced-> caching up to 10000ms

* I tried adjusting the Input -> Network -> MTU to 1500

Maybe something here will help isolate the issue.
As always, your hard work and excellent product are appreciated.

ref links:
Git bug report 11/15/2013 -> http://git.videolan.org/gitweb.cgi/vlc. ... 0140eac7c7
flac.c from 11/15/2013 -> https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/ma ... zer/flac.c

[1112e]

I was having this problem, just installed the 20131130 nightly build, and it works fine now. Thanks!


Edit: Well it's not fixed, but its not on as many songs or as noticeable now.

[iffer]

Looks like someone opened a ticket on this... (Thank you!)

https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/9966

[cwmc]

having the same problem with flac files (theyre the only files i play music with)...reverted to previous version no problem ...houston we have a problem ....
thanks vlc good luck

[factory]

Having the same problem while playing flac audio.Hope they solve it.

[dallasHD]

I had the same problem with v2.1.1. Reverting to 2.1.0 fixed it for now.

[Raven7]

Well, version 2.2 cured the "Juddering" But won't install a Firefox Plugin, How do I win?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Fixed in 2.1.2