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Unable to get closed captions

Postby ramrajesh » 31 Aug 2012 01:17

I am using VLC Windows Version 2.0.3. I have recorded HD tv programs through my digital tuner in the .wtv format and they all have closed captions. But when I play these files in VLC, I am not able to see the closed captions. I have enabled VBI and Teletext in the preferences and even after selecting track 1 in subtitles menu, I don't see the captions. I have also verified that the files has teletext stream embedded. Any reasons on why this is happening?

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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 07 Sep 2012 19:03

Please share the files.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 25 Jan 2013 08:30

I have the identical problem, just as described by ramrajesh, the OP.

The source of my .WTV files is Windows Media Center 6.1.7601.17514 running on Windows 7 SP1. There does not appear to be an alternative output format available from Windows Media Center. Tuner card is a Hauppauge HVR-2250. Media source is US cable TV (Comcast) clear QAM.

VLC was tried with VLC 2.0.5 on Windows 7 SP1 64 bit, and with VLC 2.0.4 on Windows XP SP3 32 bit, with identical results for both HD and SD material.

Under Windows 7 SP1, Windows Media Player 12, Media Player Classic 1.6.6.6584 (ea09b34), and Video Redo TVsuite 4.6 do not see these closed captions, while VLC sees these closed captions as Teletext(telx), and offers a subtitle option for Track 1 (NOT for Closed Captions, however), but shows no subtitles when Track 1 is chosen as subtitle source on the right click menu, and just continues playing with audio and video.

These files play perfectly with regard to video and audio on all players that I have mentioned - the only problem appears to be closed caption recognition. Windows Media Center plays the captions perfectly, and CCExtractor GUI 0.64 can extract them correctly to an SRT subtitle file (not tested under XP).

I have been using VLC for years as a player for .TS files produced by the same tuner card running under Hauppauge's WinTV software on Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7 SP1, and this is the only time I have had a closed caption problem with VLC.

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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 25 Jan 2013 15:35

Please share the file.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Tinque » 31 Jan 2013 07:06

I am having the same problem. Perhaps related, the messages log shows "avcodec debug: codec not found (Teletext)". I am on Windows 7 x64 running VLC 2.0.5 (x86), the official build from the website. In Windows Media Center, it displays the CC properly. I use VLC in the first place because it's a nicer player than WMC, and because I can speed up the video. It would be really amazing to get CC working as well. I hope it's legal to use VLC to watch the WTV files.

Here is a 10 second test clip of Bill Gates discussing climate change on some old guy's talk show:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/10/26 ... _58_00.wtv

Here it is playing in WMC:
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Ludrax » 31 Jan 2013 16:45

nightly will crash if I select that sub track :!:
An' if ain't broke, then don't try to fix it...

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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 01 Feb 2013 00:32

I am having the same problem. Perhaps related, the messages log shows "avcodec debug: codec not found (Teletext)". I am on Windows 7 x64 running VLC 2.0.5 (x86), the official build from the website. In Windows Media Center, it displays the CC properly. I use VLC in the first place because it's a nicer player than WMC, and because I can speed up the video. It would be really amazing to get CC working as well. I hope it's legal to use VLC to watch the WTV files.

Here is a 10 second test clip of Bill Gates discussing climate change on some old guy's talk show:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/10/26 ... _58_00.wtv

Here it is playing in WMC:
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This exhibits exactly the same behavior as I have seen with my own WTV files, as described in my post above.

I did not know about "messages", and Tinque beat me to posting a relevant sample.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 07 Feb 2013 00:21

Is it CC or Teletext?
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 08 Feb 2013 04:18

VLC claims the CC stream is a subtitle, identified as Teletext, but it does not display any text.

The TV input to Windows Media Center, which produced the WTV file, uses US digital TV closed captions, not Teletext. The sample clip is from a US PBS talk show, and the text was typed in "live" and was not synchronized with the video and audio - typical practice in the US for talk and news shows.

If I put the posted example through VideoRedo to make an MPG file, VLC then correctly identifies and displays the closed captions as CC for the MPG. From that, it looks as though VideoRedo is parsing the WTV format correctly, but that VLC may not.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 08 Feb 2013 13:54

please share a complete sample, then.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 08 Feb 2013 20:43

please share a complete sample, then.
The sample posted above by Tinque at
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/10/26 ... _58_00.wtv
exhibits exactly the same behavior when played on my WIndows XP and Windows 7 systems that my own recordings exhibit and that I have described above.

I'm puzzled - what do you need that Tinque's posted sample does not provide? I'll do my best.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 09 Feb 2013 10:37

MOAR samples! :D
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 10 Feb 2013 07:46

MOAR samples! :D
http://rapidgator.net/file/77340182/0_T ... 0.wtv.html
The "Slow speed" download is free.

104 MB, 3:58, from US Cable TV (Clear QAM) via Windows Media Center running on Windows 8.

VideoRedo Suite displays the subtitles correctly, as does Windows Media Center.
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2.0.6, like 2.0.5, does not show closed captions for .WTV fi

Postby oldabelincoln » 21 Apr 2013 03:14

There appears to be no change from 2.0.5 as described by me and others above in this thread.

.WTV files from Microsoft Windows Media Center play OK, show the option for subtitle display in the right click menu, but do not display subtitles when requested to do so, just as with 2.0.5.

I tested this on the 32 bit version of 2.0.6 on Windows XP SP3 (32bit), Windows 7 (64 bit) and Windows 8 (64 bit).
I have not tried the experimental 64 bit version of 2.0.6
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 21 Apr 2013 13:18

Yes, nothing has changed on this part.
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby oldabelincoln » 21 Apr 2013 20:39

Are there any plans to do so?
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 22 Apr 2013 12:33

If no bug is opened, it will be forgotten, probably...
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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby martinu » 02 Aug 2013 16:21

If no bug is opened, it will be forgotten, probably...
OK so what's the mechanism for raising a bug?

I have this problem as well. VLC 2.0.7, Windows 7 64-bit, WTV files recorded from UK broadcasts.

It affects WTV files but not TS files generated from the WTV files (open in VideoRedo and save as TS): TS files display fine when Video | Subtitles Track is set to "Track 1 - English" whereas although the same option is available for WTV files, selecting it does not cause the subtitles to be shown.

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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 05 Aug 2013 14:38

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Re: Unable to get closed captions

Postby Ludrax » 06 Aug 2013 12:54

An' if ain't broke, then don't try to fix it...


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