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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Lotesdelere » 15 Jan 2010 01:27

AFAIK the upper limit for DXVA to work on an Nvidia VP2 card is Level 5.1 and 15 Reference frames.
And your sample is Level 5.1 with...16 Reference frames.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby BananasQ » 15 Jan 2010 06:25

OS: Win7 Ultimate
Gfx: ATI HD4550
CPU: Intel Pentium D 2.80 Dual Core

I used the Iron Man example. Before using DXVA, some dropped frames (maybe a couple in the whole clip) and CPU @ 55%

With DXVA CPU drops to 50% but seems less balanced and the trailer is completely unwatchable - blocky and less than one FPS.

I can show some resource pics if required. OSD disabled and I ran the DXVA checker first - all good. I think that my CPU is not SSE4 tho.

My Mobo does have G35 embedded on it, but I am pretty confident it is using the ATI.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 15 Jan 2010 07:22

And what about the lost menu "Services discovery" ???
Open the playlist.
The playlist is now included in the main window (an option to disable this ?) but no more "FreeboxTV" choice...
Not in this thread, please.
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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby nikola23 » 15 Jan 2010 07:50

AFAIK the upper limit for DXVA to work on an Nvidia VP2 card is Level 5.1 and 15 Reference frames.
And your sample is Level 5.1 with...16 Reference frames.
So is that a problem with the sample I uploaded or is it a problem with the rip?

If its a problem with the sample I made I'd be happy to try again.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Lotesdelere » 15 Jan 2010 15:40

So is that a problem with the sample I uploaded or is it a problem with the rip?
It's a problem with the parameters used for the encoding.
More infos about DXVA encoding compatibility can be found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=972503
and here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... st12704376

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby rickh » 15 Jan 2010 16:01

nikola23 wrote:http://satan23.pale-chestnut.feralhosti ... Sample.mkv


AFAIK the upper limit for DXVA to work on an Nvidia VP2 card is Level 5.1 and 15 Reference frames.
And your sample is Level 5.1 with...16 Reference frames.
9800gt is a VP2 card and MPHC DXVA handles it fine:

http://yfrog.com/2pmphcj

VLC (in this version) without DXVA plays the file fine

VLC with DXVA:
http://yfrog.com/jcvlcp

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby lunderhage » 16 Jan 2010 01:23

How long?
~30 seconds.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby LVL UP » 16 Jan 2010 17:37

It just crashes out right for me. I have a Radeon 4350 GPU and I'm running 32-bit Vista basic with a Celeron 360 D(I really need to fix that bottleneck) I have 3gigs of ram. Before it just crashed, but it's starting to work now. The video performance is horrible because I have several programs open. I will try again with nothing open this time. http://i50.tinypic.com/14d10nq.png that link is the error I got. It plays with a bit of lag in XMBC, and plays even better in SMplayer(Mplayer gui for windows) when I change the rendering settings. What's weird is that I can play Big Buck Bunny in 1080p with no lag what so ever. Also, fix your security certificate, SRWare Iron (aka google chrome) won't leave me alone about it.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby MoFoQ » 19 Jan 2010 02:28

CPU: Q8200
GPU: GTX260 x 2 (SLi mode)
OS: Windows 7 64bit
File: that iron man 2 clip that someone posted in the first reply to this thread.
Misc: Post Processing is set at 6 (highest)
CPU load: < 15%

Awesome (both the clip and VLC DXVA2).

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 19 Jan 2010 08:59

CPU: Q8200
GPU: GTX260 x 2 (SLi mode)
OS: Windows 7 64bit
File: that iron man 2 clip that someone posted in the first reply to this thread.
Misc: Post Processing is set at 6 (highest)
CPU load: < 15%

Awesome (both the clip and VLC DXVA2).
Thank you for the report.
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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby xPreatorianx » 19 Jan 2010 21:29

* AMD Athlon XP 64 X2 4200 + 2.2 GHZ dual core (I have no idea what the SSE stuff is?)
* Dual XFX Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT Alpha dog edition in SLI (Factory OC) 512 MB of ram each
* Windows 7 X64 Professional
* I tested that Iron man clip.


Here is the screenshot. But I had CPU usage between 11% and 30%. E

EDIT: NVM That ram problem I had was with my system. For some reason windows 7 did not wanna free up resources. A good old reboot fixed that.

Excellent work on this new VLC. I can't wait for the final build. My CPU usage after a reboot stayed at about 11%-15%.

Image

EDIT: That video probably looked better on my screen. I think it was saved in JPEG then I accidentally converted it to PNG. So just look at the task manager and not half of that woman.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Zenith » 20 Jan 2010 10:26

CPU: E6600 no SSE4
GPU: ATI 5770
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
I tested a .mov 720P h264 http://www.gamershell.com/download_54998.shtml
It plays but it's all green with a block jarring out in the middle, the audio works. If I slide the video along to a new spot the top section I can see the video maybe a centimeter of it. The CPU usage is 63%

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby paintball9029 » 20 Jan 2010 17:13

So i don't have any videos on my laptop at the moment that conform to hd standards, and my bandwidth sucks so im stuck with a random movie that i encoded myself anyways, with that tool dxva checker i get this report so it should work
modeh264_vld_nofgt DXVA2 NV12 720x480 / 1280x720 / 1920x1080

I am running windows 7 ultimate x64
my hardware is as follows
Acer Inspire 5920g
cpu = Core 2 Duo T5750 @ 2.00
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, ET64, XD, EST
gpu = Nvidia 8600m GT

the video info is
H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1)
720x320
framerate - 23.975065

so the video ran fine looked great, it only used about 2-4 percent cpu usage when playing but i was encoding some more videos in handbrake which was using 90 so it may have not been accurate. when i get back home ill check it out with a 720p video i have and post on its success as well.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby jens.l » 22 Jan 2010 23:25

I am running OS:Vista 32bit Ram 4Gig
Mainboard Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H with IGP.
Film is the Ironman2 MKV

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rX ... directlink

The Video has many dropouts. Not watchable.
Without hardwaredecoding to on is the Trailer OK, no Dropouts.

Jens

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby VLC_help » 23 Jan 2010 19:01

jens.l: you have latest display adapter drivers installed?

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby sugo » 24 Jan 2010 01:07

I have a big audio problems/unresponsiveness with DXVA enabled, but video is smooth (which it's absolutely not w/o GPU decoding):

my specs:
Win7 X64 Enterprise final and updated
4GB RAM
nvidia 9800GTX
nforce4 Motherboard

My pc becomes very unresponsive while playing the Ironman2 trailer (the same for an HD .ts file I also tried), and audio is stuttering very heavily. Interestingly the video itself is perfectly smooth and plays perfectly (w/o DXVA it's unwatchable), and CPU-load is between 10-30% with some peaks.

I know that the nforce4 motherboards have issues with PCI latency (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce4) causing audio problems, which I also noticed sometimes on my pc. But the interesting thing is that other media players like f.e. mpc-hc with Cyberlink 9 DXVA codec play video and audio of the same files w/o any issues.

Is it possible that VLC with DXVA has a very heavy load on the PCI/PCI Express bus which causes my machine to not be able to play the audio correctly, as the CPU-load seems to be OK (10-30%) and the video plays smoothly?

Update:
I've now also tested a low-resolution H264 mkv (710x478 pixel). With GPU decoding enabled even with this file the audio stutters heavily, though less than with the HD file, with CPU-load 5-20%. When I disable GPU decoding video and audio play fine. I verified DXVA2 use with DXVAChecker.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby jens.l » 24 Jan 2010 15:03

jens.l: you have latest display adapter drivers installed?
Now, I have the latest driver installed, but the same results.
Without GPU acceleration film is OK, no dropouts, processor is by 40-50 percent.

With GPU accelartion on, the film stutters, many droputs, blocky pictures, sometimes only black screen, sound is OK,processor is by 50-60 percent.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby VLC_help » 24 Jan 2010 18:37

Is it possible that VLC with DXVA has a very heavy load on the PCI/PCI Express bus which causes my machine to not be able to play the audio correctly, as the CPU-load seems to be OK (10-30%) and the video plays smoothly?
No. The load shouldn't be very high.
My pc becomes very unresponsive
Could you use tool like Process Explorer and check out which process is eating the CPU time?

jens.l : thanks.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby rsquared » 27 Jan 2010 02:26

works great

CPU: Intel Atom 330 1.6GHz dual core, SSE3
GPU: Nvidia ION
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
codecs: H.264 with MP4 container

I tested both the IronMan trailer (1920x800) as well as output from a Flip HD (1280x720). Both worked with GPU acceleration, and both failed without this option.

On a separate note, HTTP streaming is no longer working with v1.1.0-git. Is that a known issue?

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby sugo » 27 Jan 2010 02:32

Is it possible that VLC with DXVA has a very heavy load on the PCI/PCI Express bus which causes my machine to not be able to play the audio correctly, as the CPU-load seems to be OK (10-30%) and the video plays smoothly?
No. The load shouldn't be very high.
My pc becomes very unresponsive
Could you use tool like Process Explorer and check out which process is eating the CPU time?

jens.l : thanks.
I did that already, but as I tried to explain: There is no process that hogs the CPU-time, not even the Deferred Proc Calls. It is constantly less than 40%, mostly < 30%. This happens with all my soundcards, though with slightly different severity. As I said, audio stutter happens also with low-res h264 files when Gpu-decoding is enabled. When disabling it, these files play without issues. Other Players like mpc-hc/wmp with DXVA-enabled Cyberlink 9 Codecs play the same files without audio problems.

For me this suggests that DXVA2 in VLC somehow influences the ability to play the audio. My only explanation is the latency-issue with nforce4 Motherboards, but as other players work it should also be possible in VLC. Maybe VLC audio decoding is very heavy on the PCI-bus and together with GPU-decoding enabled and its load on the PCI-Express bus this creates the problem. Is there anything I can do to reduce the load for the PCI, f.e. with the audio settings? I've already tried some of them, but just randomly and w/o success. Or are there some buffering settings I can try?

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 27 Jan 2010 13:04

works great

CPU: Intel Atom 330 1.6GHz dual core, SSE3
GPU: Nvidia ION
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
codecs: H.264 with MP4 container

I tested both the IronMan trailer (1920x800) as well as output from a Flip HD (1280x720). Both worked with GPU acceleration, and both failed without this option.

On a separate note, HTTP streaming is no longer working with v1.1.0-git. Is that a known issue?
Thanks. About HTTP streaming, please change topic.
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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby VLC_help » 27 Jan 2010 17:38

Or are there some buffering settings I can try?
Not really.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby xPreatorianx » 28 Jan 2010 01:18

@sugo, I have an Nforce 4 motherboard but I am using the onboard sound and I don't have any of those problems using this version of VLC. Only reason why I am not using this version of VLC as my main version is because of the fact of the weird full screen mode it has because it's still in development. As soon as they get it in beta or RC status I'm sold. My specs as indicated above for my motherboard are A8n-SLI Premium. Which is an extremely old motherboard using Nforce 4 and Realtek AC97 audio codec. I run my setup on Windows 7 X64 and this version of VLC rocks. My problems I was having was due to me having so many programs open all day and windows would not free up memory. After a restart and then doing the test over again it worked without a hitch.

I would see if something on your system is causing the problem and not VLC.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby changturkey » 02 Feb 2010 21:29

Are there any updates for this? I compared CPU usage between VLC and MPC-HC, and VLC is still usually about 10-20% higher in usage with DXVA.

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Re: Looking for testers on Windows Vista/7 for DxVA2

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 03 Feb 2010 12:04

Are there any updates for this? I compared CPU usage between VLC and MPC-HC, and VLC is still usually about 10-20% higher in usage with DXVA.
nVidia?
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