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Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby mh505 » 25 Dec 2008 18:58

I apologize in advance if these things have already been reported; if so let's the forum admin remove the thread.

I am actually bundling here some major concerns voiced in other threads; they all have to do with Video/DVD and appear only under v0.9.x (0.9.4 was the first one I tried; and now to 0.9.8a). None of these problems exist under v0.8.6

1) Video and audio are out of sync. This happens not always and seems to be a function of the complexity of the material (e.g. don't seem to get it with a B&W DVD on a movie from the 40s but have it to an appalling extent in a ripped version of a protected DVD such as WALL-E). I reported this back in October; the problem still persists today
2) v0.9.x do not allow to run a DVD under the dvdsimple mode. This has been reported by me earlier; other forum members experience similar issues
3) As VLC does not work with a protected DVD (such as most stuff from Disney) one has to rip those DVDs. I use the DVDFab decrypter which works reasonably well. However, contrary to v0.8.6, the new version no longer provides a seamless viewer experience when running this movie from the folder. Instead, there is a gap/interruption after each VOB-file.
4) A lesser problem but still a nuisance is the fact that very frequently, the closing of the player results in a program error by Windows. Again, this never happens under v0.8.6

Great as this program is, I must say that I for one see myself forced to go back to v0.8.6 where things are perhaps a little less "exciting" but definitely reliable. Shall be happy of course to join the community again once these problems have been solved
Kindly
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Re: Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby VLC_help » 25 Dec 2008 20:26

1. Could you share some sample files that show this issue?

3. How do you open that folder (Media -> Open disc)?

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Re: Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby mpeg-lover » 26 Dec 2008 00:22

2) v0.9.x do not allow to run a DVD under the dvdsimple mode. This has been reported by me earlier; other forum members experience similar issues
"Only" with 0.9.8a dvdsimple:// crashes, I suppose. With 0.9.6 dvdsimple:// is running (just tested by chance, 2 hours ago).


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Re: Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby mh505 » 26 Dec 2008 13:27

You may be right on that one Harald; I didn't test v0.9.6 but seem to remember that dvdsimple still ran under v.0.9.4. However, points 1,2 & 4 seem to hold for all versions of 0.9.x

As to the comments of VLC Help - which file are you referring to? My points 1,3 & 4 produce no log; for point 2 find the text below.

Don't understand your item No 2 ; when I open a folder, I don't open the disc and vv

MH
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[00000486] logger interface: VLC media player - version 0.9.8a Grishenko - (c) 1
996-2008 the VideoLAN team
[00000486] logger interface:
Warning: if you can't access the GUI anymore, open a command-line window, go to
the directory where you installed VLC and run "vlc -I qt"

[00000486] logger interface: using logger...
[00000486] logger interface warning: no log filename provided, using `vlc-log.tx
t'
[00000486] logger interface debug: opening logfile `vlc-log.txt'
[00000486] main interface debug: using interface module "logger"
[00000486] main interface debug: thread 6268 (interface) created at priority 0 (
interface/interface.c:168)
[00000486] main interface debug: thread started
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: New item: dvdsimple://E:\
[00000368] main playlist debug: adding item `dvdsimple://E:\' ( dvdsimple://E:\
)
[00000415] main access debug: waitpipe: object killed
[00000368] main playlist debug: rebuilding array of current - root Playlist
[00000368] main playlist debug: rebuild done - 3 items, index 0
[00000368] main playlist debug: dying input
[00000457] main decoder debug: removing module "mpeg_audio"
[00000457] main decoder debug: thread ended
[00000413] main input debug: control type=0
[00000413] main input debug: control: stopping input
[00000419] main packetizer debug: removing module "mpeg_audio"
[00000417] main demux debug: removing module "mpga"
[00000415] main access debug: removing module "access_http"
[00000457] main decoder debug: thread times: real 1m17.922046s, kernel 0m0.36051
8s, user 0m0.931339s
[00000457] main decoder debug: thread 5276 joined (input/decoder.c:248)
[00000457] main decoder debug: killing decoder fourcc `mpga', 28 PES in FIFO
[00000471] main audio output debug: removing module "mpgatofixed32"
[00000478] main audio output debug: removing module "bandlimited_resampler"
[00000467] aout_directx audio output debug: closing audio device
[00000368] main playlist debug: dying input
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: Updating the stream status: 8
[00000469] aout_directx generic debug: DirectSoundThread exiting
[00000469] main generic debug: thread ended
[00000469] main generic debug: thread times: real 1m17.791859s, kernel 0m0.00000
0s, user 0m0.000000s
[00000469] main generic debug: thread 5744 joined (directx.c:664)
[00000467] main audio output debug: removing module "aout_directx"
[00000467] main audio output debug: removing module "float32_mixer"
[00000413] main input debug: thread ended
[00000368] main playlist debug: dead input
[00000413] main input debug: thread times: real 1m18.663112s, kernel 0m0.050072s
, user 0m0.090129s
[00000413] main input debug: thread 5112 joined (playlist/engine.c:244)
[00000368] main playlist debug: starting new item
[00000368] main playlist debug: processing request item dvdsimple://E:\ node Pla
ylist skip 0
[00000368] main playlist debug: resyncing on dvdsimple://E:\
[00000368] main playlist debug: dvdsimple://E:\ is at 2
[00000368] main playlist debug: creating new input thread
[00000488] main input debug: Creating an input for 'dvdsimple://E:\'
[00000488] main input debug: thread started
[00000488] main input debug: waiting for thread initialization
[00000488] main input debug: `dvdsimple://E:\' gives access `dvdsimple' demux `'
path `E:\'
[00000488] main input debug: creating demux: access='dvdsimple' demux='' path='E
:\'
[00000489] main demux debug: looking for access_demux module: 1 candidate
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
[00000488] main input debug: thread 4924 (input) created at priority 1 (input/in
put.c:370)
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: Updating the stream status: 3
[00000489] dvdread demux debug: VMG opened
[00000489] dvdread demux debug: number of titles: 2
[00000489] dvdread demux debug: title 0 has 257 chapters
[00000489] dvdread demux debug: title 1 has 0 chapters
[00000489] dvdread demux debug: open VTS 0, for title 1
[00000489] dvdread demux error: DvdReadSetArea(0,0,1) failed (can't decrypt DVD?
)
[00000489] main demux warning: no access_demux module matching "dvdsimple" could
be loaded
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: New Event: type 1103
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: Updating the stream status: 1
[00000488] main input debug: creating access 'dvdsimple' path='E:\'
[00000491] main access debug: looking for access module: 0 candidates
[00000491] main access error: no access module matched "dvdsimple"
[00000488] main input error: open of `dvdsimple://E:\' failed: could not create
access: no access module matched "dvdsimple"
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: New Event: type 1103
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: Updating the stream status: 9
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: New Event: type 1103
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: New Event: type 1103
[00000368] main playlist debug: finished input
[00000368] main playlist debug: dying input
[00000396] qt4 interface debug: Updating the stream status: 8
[00000368] main playlist debug: dying input
[00000488] main input debug: thread ended
[00000368] main playlist debug: dead input
[00000488] main input debug: thread times: real 0m2.052952s, kernel 0m0.000000s,
user 0m0.000000s
[00000488] main input debug: thread 4924 joined (playlist/engine.c:244)
[00000368] main playlist debug: starting new item
[00000368] main playlist debug: changing item without a request (current 2/3)
[00000368] main playlist debug: nothing to play

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Re: Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby VLC_help » 26 Dec 2008 21:51

You can open VIDEO_TS folders using two separate options. Media -> Open Disc... and Media -> Open Folder. First one is the proper way, second one is a hack that was implemented and it might not work correctly.
1) Video and audio are out of sync. This happens not always and seems to be a function of the complexity of the material (e.g. don't seem to get it with a B&W DVD on a movie from the 40s but have it to an appalling extent in a ripped version of a protected DVD such as WALL-E). I reported this back in October; the problem still persists today
Give some sample files that show this issue.

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Re: Problems of v0.9.x that were not extant under v0.8.x

Postby mh505 » 27 Dec 2008 01:38

I still don't get what you mean by "files". As said before, the out-of-sync happens rather arbitrarily & across board (although I have a notion that it happens more frequently with complex material).

But if you mean VOB-files, try out VTS_01_3.VOB from "WALL-E". There it is especially bad

MH

BTW: I have gone back to v0.8.6 so at this time I no longer encounter any of these phenomena mentioned in my first post


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