VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

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VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby mydwynter » 19 Feb 2012 13:16

I just upgraded to 2.0 (on 10.7.3), and now I'm having an issue with the GUI buttons. I used to use them for a short jump forward and a short jump backward, and now they will only go to the next item on the playlist. I cannot seem to find the preferences option to change this. In fact, I can't even tell what the official name for those buttons is. GUI? Interface buttons? Control bar buttons? I've tried to play with the hotkeys, just in case something there helped, but no dice. (The same problem is happening with my keyboard's media keys, but I care less about them so I've just turned them off for now.)

Is it there, and I'm just not seeing it? Could someone please lead me in the right direction in the preferences panel to change this back? I don't want to have to play finicky games with the scrubber from now on just to skip ahead a few seconds.

(PLEASE tell me I'm not going to have to dump my preferences and start over…)

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 19 Feb 2012 13:56

Just press the buttons long to get the skip.
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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby kdean » 19 Feb 2012 17:28

Looks like pressing and holding the buttons skips, but it skips forward multiple times. Seems like a good place to add an "Option-click" type feature to trigger one instance of a skip. I've always just used the keyboard for this so I didn't even know the buttons did anything else.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby jimclip » 19 Feb 2012 21:03

I'm having the same problem in non-fullscreen mode on Mac 10.6, but it appears that the new version still jumps correctly in 10-second intervals when in fullscreen mode like it always did. I agree, at the very least an option-click would be better than nothing, but why oh why do they have to mess things up when they upgrade? I mean, if you're watching a movie, 99 times out 100 when you click the forward arrow you want it to move ahead in the movie, not restart the movie or go to the next movie in the playlist !!! The 10-second forward or back jump with a single click of either arrow was really handy, but it seems to be lost when not in fullscreen mode. I realize you can still hold down the buttons to FF or RW, but that''s a hassle.

Also, anyone notice how HUGE the floating controller is now in fullscreen mode??? Geez...maybe VLC is overcompensating for something :-)

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby kdean » 19 Feb 2012 21:09

Also, anyone notice how HUGE the floating controller is now in fullscreen mode??? Geez...maybe VLC is overcompensating for something :-)
They're compensating for ever larger resolution screens... and often requested feature.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby mydwynter » 20 Feb 2012 01:01

Holding down the buttons to skip is nearly useless. It skips several seconds at a time, sure, but at such an insanely-quick speed there is no way for me to control it without having superpowers. (It goes SO fast, in fact, that I can't even tell how many seconds at a time it is skipping.) I almost never use fullscreen mode, so I really need to be able to do this with non-fullscreen mode.

Option-click is also a bit silly, since if I wanted to use my keyboard I'd just set a hotkey combo. (As I think I said earlier, I can't use my media keys anymore for this, since they ALSO seem to be afflicted with the same "jump to the next item in the playlist" problem.)

Secondary-click seems to be a possibility, since nothing seems to be using that, but honestly being able to set it as a preference would be immensely helpful.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 20 Feb 2012 01:19

Holding down the buttons to skip is nearly useless. It skips several seconds at a time, sure, but at such an insanely-quick speed there is no way for me to control it without having superpowers. (It goes SO fast, in fact, that I can't even tell how many seconds at a time it is skipping.)
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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby mydwynter » 20 Feb 2012 05:04

Thank you for the ticket; I look forward to seeing if that helps.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby brucegraphics » 21 Feb 2012 18:47

Thank you for the ticket; I look forward to seeing if that helps.
While I haven't tried it, would disabling Fast Seek (Preferences > Show All > Input Codecs > Fast Seek) slow down the scrubber?

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby mydwynter » 22 Feb 2012 07:28

While I haven't tried it, would disabling Fast Seek (Preferences > Show All > Input Codecs > Fast Seek) slow down the scrubber?
I don't have Fast Seek enabled, so that doesn't appear to be the issue. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby Pro-Apocalyptic » 24 Feb 2012 00:03

Yeah, this is really bugging me as well. So much so that I've downgraded to version 1.1.9 for the time being (which is a shame, because I really like a lot of 2.0's features) .

Changing the speed at which the video skips while holding down the button would definitely make things easier (it really is essentially unusable at the moment), but I'd really like to see a button where a single click leads to a single 5-10 second skip. I really preferred it when there were separate buttons for navigating within the videos and skipping between them.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby Wintermute » 29 Nov 2012 19:10

I agree with having clearly marked mouse buttons for short and long skips in both directions. Make them optional if you insist, but there's plenty of room on the bar that appears when the mouse is moved.

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Re: VLC 2.0 UI change: Forward and Backward buttons

Postby fkuehne » 30 Nov 2012 11:01

They'll be back in VLC 2.1 early next year.
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