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New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 01:22
by vannman
I can't seem to find the following features in VLC 1.0.0:

* On-the-fly recording for all medias
* Timeshift for most medias
• Airtunes

Does anyone know how to use those features?

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 09:19
by megas88
This is what I've been trying to figure out. The ability to customize the toolbars would be a nice addition on a mac as well. I hope these things can be done.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 10:49
by fkuehne
Due to a lack of active Mac developers in the preparation time for VLC 1.0.0, we were unable to add GUI options to select these features on the Mac. I will start working on it next week, but its yet to be decided in which branch of VLC this work will be published and therefore when. If it makes a 1.0.x release, you'll get these features really soon. I'll keep this thread updated.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 12:01
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Well, recording and timeshifting are triggerable by the hotkeys on the mac.
Airtunes, is a bit more complex though.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 14:35
by krmathis
What a shame!
Here you publish feature list (Readme file) for the new VLC 1.0, and say nothing about features which are not available in the Mac OS X version.

I went through every menu (even Preferences) yesterday without finding a single thing related to AirTunes.
..and now you say that it is not available if Mac OS X. Why not state so in the Readme file, to not cause any confusion? Oh well!


I understand the lack of developers, but then again you should not promise features which are not available.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 15:40
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Airtunes is on the mac.

you have to use the sout raop module.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 18:13
by megas88
I know about the hotkey for recording but it still doesn't work. The directory in which I say to save the recording disappears after closing or doesn't work at all.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 20:33
by danh
How is the "sout raop module" supposed to work?

I tried using "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC --sout='#transcode{acodec=alac,channels=2}:raop{host=192.168.1.112,volume=255}' foobar.mp3", but all I got was this:

[0x278aa8] main interface error: no interface module matched "globalhotkeys,none"
[0x278aa8] main interface error: no suitable interface module
[0x201bc8] main libvlc error: interface "globalhotkeys,none" initialization failed
[0x201bc8] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[0x1464c968] stream_out_raop stream out: Audio latency: 0
[0x1464c968] stream_out_raop stream out: Jack type: digital
Segmentation fault

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 22:50
by lildimsum7
another thing missing is the ability to go normal size in full screen

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 10 Jul 2009 23:05
by Jean-Baptiste Kempf
How is the "sout raop module" supposed to work?

I tried using "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC --sout='#transcode{acodec=alac,channels=2}:raop{host=192.168.1.112,volume=255}' foobar.mp3", but all I got was this:

[0x278aa8] main interface error: no interface module matched "globalhotkeys,none"
[0x278aa8] main interface error: no suitable interface module
[0x201bc8] main libvlc error: interface "globalhotkeys,none" initialization failed
[0x201bc8] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[0x1464c968] stream_out_raop stream out: Audio latency: 0
[0x1464c968] stream_out_raop stream out: Jack type: digital
Segmentation fault
Do you have backtrace?

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 00:02
by danh
Do you have backtrace?
I'm not the best of friends with gdb, but this is what happens:

Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
Reason: 13 at address: 0x00000000
[Switching to process 2627 thread 0x6d1f]
0x18636609 in ff_flac_compute_autocorr_sse2 ()
(gdb) backtrace
#0 0x18636609 in ff_flac_compute_autocorr_sse2 ()
#1 0x18307c5b in ff_lpc_calc_coefs ()
Previous frame inner to this frame (gdb could not unwind past this frame)

I have no idea if that helps or not...

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 00:59
by fkuehne
another thing missing is the ability to go normal size in full screen
This feature was never present in VLC and is not announced to be included. Patches are welcome of course, although I don't see a reason why anyway would want to use that... (no offense intended)

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 01:57
by mguertin
another thing missing is the ability to go normal size in full screen
This feature was never present in VLC and is not announced to be included. Patches are welcome of course, although I don't see a reason why anyway would want to use that... (no offense intended)
It can be useful when you are doing upsizing quality comparisons and you want to keep the non distracting black background :) That said I don't have a patch either :?

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 15:06
by Len
Are there any plans to introduce update checking into the OS X version of VLC? There is a function for checking for updates but I assume that is just for Windows as it doesn't work. It will always state there are no updates.

As we speak I am running 0.99a (Version 0.9.9a Grishenko (PowerPC)) and a check for updates will cheerily say that it is the most recent version, even though 1.0 has been out for some time now...

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 16:24
by fkuehne
The update checker does work nicely, but the update server was not told about VLC 1.0 to achieve a certain level of load balancing on our servers. We'll announce it though this checker soon.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 16:49
by Len
Thanks, that sounds good! The thing is, it is not so much for myself but more for all the people whose machine I install VLC on. Friends, parents, etc. I would just like them to get an update alert and a simple way of keeping up to date...

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 11 Jul 2009 18:51
by fkuehne
I've just investigated this issue a bit more and it seems like there is a bug on the update server. The Intel versions of VLC for OS X report the latest release correctly, while the PowerPC versions don't. We'll fix that, but it may take a bit.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009 12:42
by Len
I've just investigated this issue a bit more and it seems like there is a bug on the update server. The Intel versions of VLC for OS X report the latest release correctly, while the PowerPC versions don't. We'll fix that, but it may take a bit.
Hi, it seems that the update function is still not working for PPC users. :(

Any news on getting this fixed?

Thanks!

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009 14:20
by fkuehne
I don't really see a fix coming within the 1.0 branch of VLC as we will drop our self-developed mechanism in favor of Sparkle for VLC's 1.1 release, which will keep full PowerPC support.
The current issue is due to a little vs. big endian problem in the underlying cryptographic libraries. In case the maintainer (for this now Windows-only update feature) fixes it, I'll happily backport it to the 1.0-branch, so it would be included in VLC 1.0.2 or later.

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009 14:46
by Len
I don't really see a fix coming within the 1.0 branch of VLC as we will drop our self-developed mechanism in favor of Sparkle for VLC's 1.1 release, which will keep full PowerPC support.
The current issue is due to a little vs. big endian problem in the underlying cryptographic libraries. In case the maintainer (for this now Windows-only update feature) fixes it, I'll happily backport it to the 1.0-branch, so it would be included in VLC 1.0.2 or later.
I see, thanks. I will send the people I know I installed VLC for in the past an e-mail to alert them that a new VLC is out.

Good choice going to Sparkle by the way!

Re: New features missing in VLC 1.0.0 on OS X?

Posted: 05 Sep 2009 14:56
by fkuehne
I see, thanks. I will send the people I know I installed VLC for in the past an e-mail to alert them that a new VLC is out.
Cool, thanks!