Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Muntyhoven » 17 Aug 2011 00:46

Yes, sounds like we'll have to wait for the channel swapping problem to be fixed, other issues may be sorted (again?) however:

http://tidbits.com/article/12429

“Resolve an issue that may cause system audio to stop working when using HDMI or optical audio out.” This sounds remarkably like the fix in the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Supplemental Update that was necessary to resolve the audio problems introduced in the move from 10.6.7 to 10.6.8. Apple described that fix as “System audio that stops working when using HDMI or optical audio out.”

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Harrie » 18 Aug 2011 02:07

Hi,

10.7.1 Did not repair anything. Not with vlc 1.1.10 either. Selecting the encoded output makes VLC irresponsive.

This is sad because i need the subtitles.

Tip for those who dont need the subs, MPEG Streamclip plays everything fine with Dolby 5.1 BUT misses the subs.

Bugger.

Lets hope there will be a solution for this annoying bug soon !

Cheers.
Mac Mini 2009, Lion 10.7.1

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby sijk » 18 Aug 2011 07:36

> 10.7.1 Did not repair anything. Not with vlc 1.1.10 either. Selecting the encoded output makes VLC irresponsive.

Same for me.

> This is sad because i need the subtitles.

Try XBMC, it supports subtitles.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby niltsh » 19 Aug 2011 02:50

I haven't tried it in VLC, but for those curious, the 10.7.1 update didn't fix the issue in MPlayerX. :/
Did you tried MPlayerX 1.0.8 with Lion 10.7.1 ?

it has made some fixes for the optical output, but not sure whether it works.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 19 Aug 2011 12:39

It doesn't either...
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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby thay » 20 Aug 2011 03:52

Same here since Lion 10.7
I don't get DTS or Dolby over spdif toslink via VLC (Audio Settings are all right)

Maybe it is a MAC Issue but
I use Plex 0.8.5 and it does play DTS and Dolby over spdif.

In Snow Leo, Plex did find 5.1 settings Automatically. Now in Lion I have to use the Option "Force digital Output" in the Audio Settings.

Yesterday I did make update to 10.7.1 but VLC still cant play 5.1

I'm not a programmer but maybe the "Force Digital output thing" in Audio Settings is a hint.

Anyway Plex will work for you. http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/Downl ... nt_Version

Hopefully VLC can do it soon!

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby niltsh » 20 Aug 2011 17:56

It doesn't either...
Today I got one report that he made the SPDIF output OK under 10.7.1 and MPlayerX 1.0.8

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby si600 » 20 Aug 2011 18:55

I wonder how many users vlc is losing in this debacle.... I have literally not been able to watch any of my films since I moved to lion since I won't accept listening to a modern film in stereo. Poor show Apple and poor show VLC.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby niltsh » 20 Aug 2011 19:45

Hi all,

I think it may not be polite to post it here, but I really want to solve this problem and I see somewhat dawn light.
I am the author of MPlayerX, and I have been facing the exactly same problem from 10.7 and MPlayerX 1.0.7

then I worked with one volunteer who helped me very much to test and fix this problem (in 10.7.0), at last, we have done to the level of
it could output the DTS/AC3 through SPDIF, but after that, there will be no sound at all until the OS rebooting ( which I thought is a OS bug).

I have merged this patch in 1.0.8, but still I am not sure whether it could work in 10.7.1.
So if there is anyone who got time to help me to test it and make sure of it.
of course, I would like to share the patch.

MPlayerX is in Mac App Store, and also google code http://code.google.com/p/mplayerx

and here comes the test instruction.

1. arm your hardwares.
2. set the receiver as the default output in System Preference -> Sound -> Output
2. open MPlayerX, in Preference -> Audio
3. DISABLE Detect SPDIF digital output automatically (since some receiver could not recognized correctly)
4. ENABLE AC3 and DTS
5. try to open mkv or some file which has a AC3/DTS track.

I will check this thread as far as I could, but if you could leave me a message to zongyao.qu[at]gmail.com, it will be really sincere and appreciated.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby jackpot » 21 Aug 2011 22:05

This is definitely a VLC issue, because native Mac OS DVD player plays DD and DTS perfectly.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby si600 » 21 Aug 2011 22:07

The above works fine for me just as you say but mplayer is too choppy for my macbook (late 2007), any alternative suggestions to replace vlc would be welcome.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby poing » 22 Aug 2011 07:32

No vlc nightly builds afther the 12th of august, I hope they fix it soon or otherwise they gonna loose a lot of users.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby AMaench » 24 Aug 2011 01:23

the main question is why can PLEX work fine but VLC can't? What are they doing different that makes it so VLC won't work properly yet it has no problem what so ever?

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Ducato » 24 Aug 2011 22:13

Can someone tell me what other simple player would work without having to go under the hood?

Edit: ok I just tried that Plex thing...it's horrible...deleted

MPlayerX works! bye bye vlc...

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby ephfithian » 27 Aug 2011 23:49

MPlayerX 1.0.8 works for DTS and DD with my Mac Mini 2011 2.7GHz, 8GB, 256GB/750GB, 10.7.1. Subtitles work as well. Easy skip forward/back 10 sec or 60 sec. The only problem is that DTS-HD (lossless) does not work. Some bluray discs have only DTS lossless. Author of MPlayerX has been notified. No nightlies for Mac-intel since 8/12, PowerPC and Windows have been updated regularly. Mac-intel programmers on vacation? Until VLC gets it fixed, I'll use MPlayerX.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby miguy2k » 28 Aug 2011 12:27

Ok, some more info from me:

- In OSX 10.7.0, digital audio was just broken. (the issue niltsh highlighted: either no audio at all, and if it worked, the system didnt output any audio at all afterwards until reboot or sleep/resume)
- Apple fixed the no-audio-at-all-afterwards issue in OSX 10.7.1. Applications like EyeTV now work perfectly regarding digital audio.
- VLC 1.11.1 still doesn't output any digital audio at all, even under OSX 10.7.1

I can only confirm what a lot of ppl say: VLC is losing me on that one :/ - Gonna check out MPlayerX now...

EDIT: MPlayerX works perfectly (with "Detect SPDIF digital output automatically" disabled, the autodetection doesn't seem to work with a YAMAHA RX-V663 ;)) I'm gonna stick with it at least until VLC releases a fix... let's see how it lives up ;)

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby si600 » 29 Aug 2011 16:27

Is there a petition we can sign to get this sorted!!

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 29 Aug 2011 19:14

Is there a petition we can sign to get this sorted!!
And a petition wouldn't do anything...
A patch would be better :D
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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby niltsh » 12 Sep 2011 02:33

Hi

sorry for the long absence.
and I have received several email that told me the patch works.
it is at
https://www.gitorious.org/mplayer-for-m ... d2d62596bc

I think the only code you could take as a reference is between line 665 and 686.

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby Wondercow » 26 Sep 2011 04:43

:D :D Thank you for getting Dolby/DTS working again :D :D

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby fkuehne » 26 Sep 2011 18:29

Alright, this is fixed in sunday's nightly builds (see http://nightlies.videolan.org) and will be part of VLC's forthcoming 1.1.12 release, which should be available to the general public within the next 7 days.
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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby poing » 26 Sep 2011 20:37

Thanks guys everything works perfectly again.

greetings John from the Netherlands

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby thay » 01 Nov 2011 23:19

Sorry but VLC 1.1.12 release still does not work for me.

I tried Delete_Preferences and made a clean install.

No 5.1 over toslink
:-(

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby poing » 02 Nov 2011 08:30

Did you put on use s/pdif in in your preferences?

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Re: Surround Optical out in Lion 10.7 is broken

Postby thay » 18 Nov 2011 17:38

Of couse I did turn on s/p dif

I did tryed out all settings which are possible in vlc player

like s/pdif auto or on

With Plex, XBMC, Mplayer it is no problem at all

Am I the only one which has still problems with new vlc???

VLC Version 1.1.12 The Luggage (Intel 64bit) still has no optical s/p dif toslink output in 5.1


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