Pre-release: VLC 0.8.0-test2

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Alexsource

subtitles...

Postby Alexsource » 10 Oct 2004 23:08

There seems to be some subtitles timing errors with the last 2 builds (07-Oct-2004 23:19 and 09-Oct-2004 23:18), they don't sinch up well and go faster than they should. It's like, video and audio was plating at 1.00 and subtitles were at 1.1 or 1.2 or something. When fast forwading to the middle of the movie, the subtitles that where on screen were about 1 minute ahead. When reverting to 01-Oct-2004 23:18, subtitles started working fine again. This is with and xvid encoded .avi + .srt
Some divx 3 and 5 encoded avis +srts i tested worked allright.... (all files have fixed ratio mp3 audio, i think)
I tested an ogm xvid+vorbis+subtitles streams and it worked fine too.
Some other .avi xvid+mp3 and .srt i tested also worked fine...
This is on a xp pro sp1 box. My full specs are on page 3 ;)

multiVitamin

Postby multiVitamin » 11 Oct 2004 20:33

hmmm, just one thing: DVD menu support seems to get worse every test release of v0.8

test1 did show the main menu of the star wars dvds right (it's equal which one you take - episode i-ii and episode iv-vi) but got anything else wrong

test2 doesn't even get the main menu right. the overlay display parts of other clickable regions etc

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Guest

Postby Guest » 12 Oct 2004 09:13

when using logo filter I see on tv-out stuttering (maybe skipping) frames but in messages there is no problem, also on monitor picture looks OK. btw: great work done on 0.8

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Hauppauge PVR-250

Postby dmasys » 13 Oct 2004 01:45

Firstly, congratulations on a great app!

I've been using 0.7.2 under Windows, to stream live TV directly from my Hauppauge PVR250 to Xbox based clients running Xbox Media Center. This has been running perfectly well (except I can't also view the streams on my Windows XP PC - but that's another story...)

However, when I try this beta, it crashes out as soon as you click the final 'OK' button to start streaming - all of the rest of the settings are the same as before - any suggestions?

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.mkv subtitle issues

Postby WiseWeasel » 13 Oct 2004 10:30

It seems that version 0.8-t2 is still affected by a troublesome subtitle display bug in mkv movies. Subtitles seem to display fine in ogm movies, but the sides keep getting cut off in my mkv movies, and it seems like if it needs to display more than two lines of text, it will pile up extra letters on the sides, on top of the first two lines. The main difference between the ogm and mkv movies is that the ogm is widescreen format, while the mkvs are 4:3. I can't get the text to size down so that more would fit in the screen, or to take up 3 lines when it needs to. This is the only problem I'm having with 0.8-test2. The subtitles seem to be UTF-8 in all cases, recognized by VLC as subt format. Is there a way to make the subs display smaller or respect the aspect ratio of the video? I've tried changing all the preferences I could think of to fix this, to no avail. I was hoping 0.8 might fix this, but apparently not. Mplayer is unable to play these particular mkvs normally, instead playing them much faster than they're supposed to be played (though it doesn't seem to have problems with others, but the others that do work with mplayer also have this same issue with VLC). There is just something funky going on with the subtitle rendering in mkv files. Any suggestions? I've posted a screenshot of the rendering error here:
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I'm running VLC 0.8.0-test-2 (0.7.2 is also affected) in MacOS X 10.3.5 on a 2x2GHz G5, 1 GB RAM. Apart from this problem, 0.8.0-t2 seems perfect, and works about as well as 0.7.2 so far. I hope this problem can be solved by the time 0.8.0 is released. Let me know if there's anymore info you guys need.

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Re: Hauppauge PVR-250

Postby Quovodis » 13 Oct 2004 12:23

Firstly, congratulations on a great app!

I've been using 0.7.2 under Windows, to stream live TV directly from my Hauppauge PVR250 to Xbox based clients running Xbox Media Center. This has been running perfectly well (except I can't also view the streams on my Windows XP PC - but that's another story...)

However, when I try this beta, it crashes out as soon as you click the final 'OK' button to start streaming - all of the rest of the settings are the same as before - any suggestions?

Cheers


Andy

can you view the TV locally without streaming ?

WiseWeasel

not just mkv...

Postby WiseWeasel » 13 Oct 2004 14:43

Actually, I take back what I said about mkv being the only one affected. I found a 4x3 ogm movie, and that has the same issue with subtitle rendering as mkv. It seems to be a problem with all 4x3 movies that have subtitle tracks.

Guest

Postby Guest » 14 Oct 2004 03:25

hi I being trying to transcode to file with this this version.. but it just seems to write the original file only. no matter what option you choose..

WiseWeasel

Fullscreen mode - can't escape

Postby WiseWeasel » 14 Oct 2004 09:21

Oh, one more problem with the OSX version of VLC-0.8.0-t2 on 10.3.5 is that I seem to often get stuck in fullscreen mode, and hitting escape (or command-f) won't exit fullscreen mode. I can switch to other apps, using the command-tab combo, and VLC will play fullscreen as my background. The only way to exit fullscreen mode is by quitting VLC. This does not affect 0.7.2.

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Re: Fullscreen mode - can't escape

Postby fkuehne » 14 Oct 2004 14:22

@WiseWeasel

Please try a late nightly build of VLC. The fullscreen-problem has been fixed some days ago.
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Postby The DJ » 14 Oct 2004 17:07

About the subtitles.
VLC doesn't wrap lines that are too long to display in the video window to the next line. The reason is simple. This requires quite some logic, and we simply haven't gotten aroud to that yet.
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WiseWeasel

Postby WiseWeasel » 15 Oct 2004 00:46

How about allowing us to reduce the text size? Thanks for your responses guys, VLC is the best player EVAR!!!

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Postby markfm » 15 Oct 2004 01:56

"trying to transcode to file with this this version"
I just transcoded an mp4v/mpga .mpg file, to both DIV3/mp3 and WMV2/mp3 .ASF files, no problem. Is there a specific from/to set of formats that you're trying?

"How about allowing us to reduce the text size"
At least for the time and marquee subfilters, use --freetype-fontsize to adjust the size. In the latest nightly builds, it's available through Settings -- Preferences. Check the "Advanced options" box, then go to Modules -- text renderer -- freetype; there's a setting for font size in pixels, or you can use the relative "Smaller" choice. Don't forget to "Save" afterwards, if you want to keep the setting between launches of VLC.
(VLC now provides 2 versions of controlling font size. If the size in pixels > 0, then you get that absolute size. If the pixel size = 0, then the small/normal/... type of selection works)

WiseWeasel

Postby WiseWeasel » 15 Oct 2004 02:30

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Awesome, problem fixed. Thanks for the tip, markfm! Setting the text size to 20 pixels has solved everything. PERFECT! The only remaining bug I can find is a crashing bug when I switch audio tracks in ogm and mkv movies while they're playing. The workaround is to pause the movie, switch tracks, and hit play again. It's a minor issue, with an easy workaround, so no big deal. This is wonderful, good work, everyone!

WiseWeasel

Postby WiseWeasel » 15 Oct 2004 02:38

Actually, I have one more question. Is there a way to get subs to display until they are replaced by the next subs, or just stay indefinitely when VLC is paused? Sometimes, on some anime, there will be a bunch of dialog that goes by really quickly, and when I pause VLC to read it all, they will automatically disappear after a set amount of time, and I won't be able to read it all. Is there a way to have subs stick around until they are replaced, or stay indefinitely when VLC is paused? I see there's a setting in the svcdsub and cvdsub decoders for this, but not for subsdec, which I believe is the one used for ogm and mkv subs. Any suggestions? Oh, and the perfect sub size seems to be 20 pixels for most 4x3 movies.

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Postby WiseWeasel » 15 Oct 2004 02:44

Grr, I meant about 25 pixels, not 20. 'Bout time I registered here, so I can edit my posts...

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Postby WiseWeasel » 15 Oct 2004 03:11

Found another bug in the latest nightly build of 0.8.0 (200410140323) on MacOSX 10.3.5 (0.8.0-t2 is also affected). On many ogm and mkv movies, but apparently not on .avi divx movies, using the fast forward and rewind commands will not function properly, instead going to near the beginning of the file. 0.7.2 doesn't behave like this, so it appears to be a bug that cropped up in the 0.8 tree. Let me know if you guys need any further info or testing.

[Edit] I'd like to add that even in 0.7.2, the ffw and rew commands only step a frame or so at a time, instead of the usual 5-10 seconds or so that divx avi files are scanned through. [/Edit]

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Postby Guest » 17 Oct 2004 04:38

I cant seem to bind backspace or tab with any action.

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Postby ironhead » 20 Oct 2004 23:12

Saving some of the settings don't seem to work. I've download the windows installer and I'm trying to set the wxWindows interface to not embed the video, yet everytime I close VLC and go back in, its enabled again.

Never Mind.... just realized that the menu entries have the settings being over written. :)

rpg

Postby rpg » 21 Oct 2004 07:00

When using vlc 0.8.0 test 2 on os x 10.3.5. there is a neon green 1 pixel wide box surrounding all video outputs. This is only visible when playing avi's full screen.

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Unsaved Audio Output Setting...

Postby WiseWeasel » 22 Oct 2004 07:31

It seems like when I set the coreaudio Audio Output module device value to 1 (from its default setting of 0), then hit save and quit VLC, if I launch VLC by opening a VLC-bound document (.avi, .mkv, .ogg, etc.), or by dragging a document on the VLC app, this device value will revert to 0. If I set the value to 1, save, quit, and then launch VLC and then open a document with it, it will keep its device value setting of 1. To recap, launch VLC first and then open document = value remembered; launch VLC by launching VLC document directly = value reset to default. This is on MacOS 10.3.5 on a 2x2GHz G5, and happens with VLC 0.7.2, 0.8.0-test2 and the latest nightly build of 0.8.0. This is very troublesome, as files with ac3 or dts audio will crash coreaudio until I restart if played with VLC with the default audio device value. This is perfectly reproducible.
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Guest

Postby Guest » 24 Oct 2004 19:12

hello,
because I am on a slow computer I alwys had desynchronized audio problems with other players. only vlc could play everything in sync.
now with the new 08 betas i have often the same problems like in other players (it worked perfectly in 072). did you change something in the audio decode section? or why does it often run out of sync?
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Postby The DJ » 25 Oct 2004 01:02

We changed something in the audio resampling to avoid a 'wobbly' sound. However this can indeed cause problems perhaps for slower machines. We are still experimenting with this. Thank you for your report
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IGMPv3 support on MAC OS X?

Postby lamp » 26 Oct 2004 23:17

Now I have migrated to Mac OS X (Panther 10.3.5), will IGMPv3 be supported on MAC OS X?

Basically, I've been using VideoLAN for a long time on Windows platform. And I have been using VideoLAN as a multicast server and receiver on both IGMPv3 and MLDv1 (basically an IPv6 implementation of IGMPv2) on both WinXP and Linux to support SSM (Source Specific Multicast).

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Postby The DJ » 26 Oct 2004 23:54

Mac OS X does not support IGMPv3. i'm hoping that Tiger will in the future, but i'm not sure.
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