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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 11 Aug 2009 11:07

Since installing Windows 7 32bit have noticed how fuzzy videos are.

Today i tried Windows Media Player and the picture was OK, as it was when using Vista.

Did some Googling and it appears that what i am experiencing is common for Win7 users.

Installed GOM Player. Vidoes play perfectly. I believe GOM provide their own drivers.

Anyway, my guess is it's not the nVidea drivers which are the problem. Likely it's the drivers within VLC which need sorting out.

If this is the case, then i hope they sort it out asap. GOM is looking pretty good right now and may seem better the longer i have to use it.

VLC is an excellent piece of software but one has to use that which works properly.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 11 Aug 2009 17:02

GOM doesn't install any drivers.

The issue is in display adapter drivers. Almost all Windows 7 display adapter drivers seems to have problems when YUV textures must be scaled/stretched.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 12 Aug 2009 03:46

thanks for replying

when installing GOM it goes thru a configuration wizard
there is a 'Codec Setting' section where it asks whether you want to choose GOM Players built in codec system (recommended), in particular, use the internal video and audio codecs. I selected Yes.

Off a web site comparing VLC and GOM it states the following:

"GOM’s own collection of codecs is very impressive and saves you the hassle of finding them all yourself. Plus, I’ve found that if a file needs a new codec, GOM will get it for me without any headaches. This is one of the best parts of GOM Player."

To date, the only program which will not play AVI files on my pc correctly is VLC. This leads me to think VLC is the problem, not the adaptor drivers. If it is the adaptor driver then maybe VLC needs to supply/use its own driver (like it appears GOM does) instead of waiting for nVidia to sort it out

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 12 Aug 2009 09:08

Why do we diverted from the main topic here?
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 12 Aug 2009 18:18

videolan_man: codecs aren't drivers. This pixelation isn't related to codecs because it exists with all videos.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby SilverPaladin » 15 Aug 2009 02:09

so here we are, win7 rtm and still pixelated videos...
and who is to blame? sure not nvidia or ati

Dear VLC team,

thanx for your great work and this little nice app.
But i refuse to use VLC anymore, seems like you are chasing the buildnumbers like intel and amd did chase GHZ numbers.
For example, there is a little but realy annoying bug, known for i think just a year but never got fixed and everyone knows its there.
Right, the add to playlist bug. everytime you add an item to playlist it play`s it instead queuing.

STOP IT

Get serious and start fixing bugs instead of racing

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 15 Aug 2009 09:28

VLC_help
Thanks for the clarification, appreciated.

With 3 other players playing video files OK in Windows 7 and VLC not on my PC (with nvidia card/drivers), methinks it’s a VLC problem (happy for someone to explain/show otherwise).

VLC is not compatible with Windows 7 :?:

If this is the case, VLC need to be sorted.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 15 Aug 2009 18:39

VLC is compatible with Windows 7. The display drivers aren't.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby qwertymac93 » 15 Sep 2009 06:17

i seem to be one of the few ati users here, and the problem was solved by switching to open gl rendering, and it doesn't break aero! i have windows 7 build 7077 and catalyst 9.9. the only problem i have, is that uber high bitrate h264 videos tax my cpu twice as much as the default mode. my 3.6ghz amd dual core cant handle a 28mb/s 1080p video with de-interlacing, despite me having an overclocked 4830. i think most blu rays are half that so whatever. frame rate jumps between 30(that proper frame rate) and 22.Image

another pic proving i am running windows 7, there is no pixalation, and that aero is working. my screen res is 1440x900.
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 15 Sep 2009 13:21

my 3.6ghz amd dual core cant handle a 28mb/s 1080p video with de-interlacing, despite me having an overclocked 4830
VLCs H.264 decoder doesn't support hardware decoding and it doesn't support multicore decoding either.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby qwertymac93 » 15 Sep 2009 15:35

really? that sucks, but it doesn't matter. i guess im lucky i have a fast cpu, i feel sorry for atom users! but I'd say vlc does a good job decoding a 28mb/s file with one core and no hardware acceleration PLUS filters. the video plays fine without de-interlacing on, but i cant stand scanlines.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby 0x0x » 20 Sep 2009 13:54

Using now the 190.62_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql driver - Win7 64-bit via MSDN. The problem still exists for me.
However I found out that it is resolution dependent. I do not have the pixlation effect when my computer is connected to the projector @ 1280 x 720.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby danielt2x » 21 Sep 2009 03:33

Switch to OpenGL fixes pixelation for me; I only notice the pixelation when the video is being stretched, though. (Win7 RTM x64 Ultimate)
I'll just try to find more hi-res videos until an official fix, as the switch to OpenGL does not show the fullscreen controller. (For me at least.)

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Warlord » 25 Sep 2009 19:21

open GL does work fine for me too on win7 64x
But as daniel said, we can't see the full screen controls AND the most annoying thing, when you switch to the next video, the fullscreen is disabled :/
Any quick fix to keep the full screen when switching video?

i also could use direct x but the screen blacking in and out and aero killing is annoying..

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 27 Sep 2009 15:06

Direct3D issue is something I cannot fix. I tried different texture scaling modes, strecthrect scaling modes, different FOURCCs/textures, and some random stuff. So I cannot figure out what part of the code is causing the issue.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby rightman » 03 Oct 2009 21:22

I am on Win7 x64 an using an ATI Video Card with the latest driver 9.9

I have this pixelation, too. But only in VLC. I could use the OpenGL workaround, but then taken screen shots have the wrong color (I think inverted).
The pixelation is independent of the filetype but i think deinterlaced material (progressiv) doesn't have this pixelation.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 04 Oct 2009 13:12

All videos I tested have pixelation.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Shakama » 07 Oct 2009 15:38

this is unacceptable, all players work fine, why only does VLC do this? you smart people need to work on this now. its not windows fault unless they did it intentionally because they hate VLC. one of the codecs used needs to be replaced with one that is compatible.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Shakama » 08 Oct 2009 12:42

seriously guys find a solution or just start again from scratch. really silly how this is the only player not capable of playing video files probably

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby DiM7 » 08 Oct 2009 13:06

Same problem vlc pixelation in windows 7 x64 RTM with all critical updates downloaded from ... internet and not windows update :) with the latest nvidia display driver ForceWare 191.07

The only solution worked for me is to change it to OPENGL video output ...... with MS media player, classic media player and GOM player i have NO problem with the video output to directx9 !!!.

Well sorry videolan guys but this is NOT a problem of windows 7 or ati and nvidia display drivers it is YOUR problem something is wrong with VLC player and u should try to find a solution ......

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby bartman01 » 08 Oct 2009 19:43

The issue for me only occurs with VLC. All other video players are fine, VLC is not. If it were a video card driver issue, why is VLC the only player affected? DirectX output does fix the problem, but kills Aero.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 09 Oct 2009 11:57

If it were a video card driver issue, why is VLC the only player affected?
VLC doesn't use DirectShow. All DirectShow player work correctly (specially ones using EVR output). And issue can been seen with other players if the video output module is having a same issue.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby tunczyk » 09 Oct 2009 15:35

Hello, my english is bad. I read from site http://www.sensoray.com/support/videoLan.htm
"In order to work around these issues and make it possible for VLC’s multiplexer to be used with DirectShow, Sensoray developed the Sensoray VLC Bridge, a DirectShow filter that incorporates the VLC libraries. This filter serves as a bridge from DirectShow to VLC, thus exposing VLC’s multiplexer functionality in the form of a DirectShow filter. It is a very useful standalone filter and, in the spirit of the open source movement (and as required by GPL), Sensoray provides all source code for the filter on its website"

Does this integrated module:? This mid_vlc_sensoray_V104 last version (link in my gerda site) , but I do not know how to use: (
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Shivek » 10 Oct 2009 15:52

Is it fixed in VLC 1.02 with Catalyst 9.9?

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby rightman » 10 Oct 2009 16:00

Is it fixed in VLC 1.02 with Catalyst 9.9?
No, it isn't. I use VLC 1.0.2 and Ati Catalyst 9.9 on Windows 7 x64. I have pixelation


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