Time for Blu-Ray support guys...

[DGMurdockIII]

http://www.panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/of ... 225-2.html

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

And?

Seriously, we know about that, and we read the Net, but they don't have license for open source projects.

[Lotesdelere]

AACS DumpHD implementation:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... ementation

Parse TrueHD and AC3 out of Blu-Ray m2ts files:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... mpeg_Tasks

VC-1 Interlaced Support:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... ed_Support

M2TS sample files with PGS subtitles (VLC doesn't even detect them for now):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6o2tsf
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5t7xv1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jyj14y

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

AACS DumpHD implementation:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... ementation

Parse TrueHD and AC3 out of Blu-Ray m2ts files:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... mpeg_Tasks

VC-1 Interlaced Support:
http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?tit ... ed_Support

M2TS sample files with PGS subtitles (VLC doesn't even detect them for now):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6o2tsf
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5t7xv1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jyj14y

What is PGS?

[Lotesdelere]

What is PGS?

Presentation Graphic Stream (.SUP)

Format for subtitles used on Blu-ray.
MPC-HC can display them, maybe you could have a look at the code

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

What is PGS?

Presentation Graphic Stream (.SUP)

Format for subtitles used on Blu-ray.
MPC-HC can display them, maybe you could have a look at the code

Maybe, thanks for the report...

Could you fill a bug, please?

[Lotesdelere]

Could you fill a bug, please?

http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/2604

[forart.it]

Check this out: https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browser/trunk (libbluray, libaacs, etc..)

Doom9's related 3ad

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Yes, who has time to do it?

[nadavvadan]

everybody can rip a BD to their hdd, even if it requires wine or crossover.
im a mac user myself and it's not a big deal to rip a blu-ray to a hdd.
the problem is, that it plays choppy and doesn't have a menu like a real BD has.
some blu-rays play well and some don't have any video track.


vlc version: 0.9.9a/1.0.0 rc-2 tried both
core 2 duo 2.4 GHz
mac os X.5.7

[DGMurdockIII]

i thnk it time for blu ray support or at least try to work it in before you guys get to 1.5 or at least 2.0

[kurkosdr]

DRM of Blu Ray is not borken. Ask the Hollywood to open the specifications.

https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browse ... /libbluray

Now you have the specifications to make all pre-May 2008 BluRay titles play on VLC. So now you can't blame hollywood because you don't have the time to implement it into VLC. If legality is the problem, create an "uofficial" version of VLC outside the VLC project, called "VLC With Dirty Libbluray Support" and sign me up for the updates, please.

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

[nikola23]

https://trac.assembla.com/bdplus/browse ... /libbluray

Now you have the specifications to make all pre-May 2008 BluRay titles play on VLC. So now you can't blame hollywood because you don't have the time to implement it into VLC. If legality is the problem, create an "uofficial" version of VLC outside the VLC project, called "VLC With Dirty Libbluray Support" and sign me up for the updates, please.

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

If you actually read up on libbluray you'll find out that its not even close to being working. Everytime a new disc gets released they need to fix it for the new movies because they havent implimented the VM that "real" bluray decoding requires.

[kurkosdr]

If you actually read up on libbluray you'll find out that its not even close to being working. Everytime a new disc gets released they need to fix it for the new movies because they havent implimented the VM that "real" bluray decoding requires.

They claim to have implemented a near perfect implementation of the first version of the BD-J Virtual Machine. The VM was changed later, and that's why even relatively new players needed a firmware upgrade. However, movies that were made before the VM was changed run smoothly. so it's better that nothing, and it would be good to have it in VLC.

[VLC_help]

Is there any opensource player out there capable of playing blurays and HDDVDs?

AFAIK no.

[leQ]

i really don't understand why the open source community is having such a problem getting a BD capable player out. what's the hangup?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

License, Code, reverse engineering and so on.

[kurkosdr]

i really don't understand why the open source community is having such a problem getting a BD capable player out. what's the hangup?

Sony (the creator of the BluRay Movie standard) is a very secretive company. They won't give you the standards for the creation and playback of bluray movies unless you buy a "license". Hence, the menu format for bluray movies, BD-J (the programming language for the intractive features) and the playback method for copy protected movies are all secrets of Sony, revealed only to afflicate companies.
So, the only viable solution for the opensource community is to reverse engineer (guess) the standards trough "unofficial" methods, hoping they 'll come up with a working software for playback and creation of bluray movies.

Till then, although opensource programs will be capable of storing various data on BluRay recordable discs, they won't be able to create and play Bluray *movies*, at least not 100%

Till now, the best possible solutions is DumpHD along with VLC for playback, and TSMuxer for authoring.

Or you can be a good customer and waste money for PowerDVD, thus producing profit for Cyberlink and Sony...

[kurkosdr]

At least did we got menu support for bluray movies with 1.0?

That shouldn't be that hard to implement.

There are programs out there who can make nice BluRay movies with menus from people's home recordings, so it would be nice to be able to play them with VLC.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

No, we don't have that yet.

Help and samples are welcome.

[Lotesdelere]

http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/bdplus

[nikola23]

No, we don't have that yet.

Help and samples are welcome.

As far as the sample goes are there any certain files on the disc that you would need? I have access to bluray discs and a drive so id be able to get them i just imagine you dont want 40 gig disc images.

[VLC_help]

At least did we got menu support for bluray movies with 1.0?

AFAIK Blu-ray Menu support would require BD-J implementation. So it is very unlikely to see this anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD-J

[kurkosdr]

AFAIK Blu-ray Menu support would require BD-J implementation. So it is very unlikely to see this anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD-J

.. and, proprietary software popped off ahead again (at least in the video dept)

Anyway, these guys at DVd Fab promised GPLing the code of their console version, so it can still be done.

[VLC_help]

I don't think DVDFab has BD-J menu support in their ripping software.