Dual subtitles?

[PaC_1250]

But if you want to use VLC, get 1.0.0 nightly releases, those builds have fixed some SSA/A SS problems.

Yes there seems to be a problem like j-b said in another post.
I tried :

• 0.9.0
• 0.9.2
• 0.9.4
• 0.9.6
• 0.9.8
• 1.0.0-git-20081123-0005

None works

But if found a version compiled by VLC_help that works

I did my tests and it's fine !

For those who are interested in my script, it is available at this address : http://pas-bien.net/2srt2ass/
The resulting A-S-S files works fine on VLC (only on few versions that supports A-S-S) and on Media Player Classic !

[ezra]

Being a language teacher myself, I have also been searching for a possibility of dual display of subtitles.

Here's the solution I came across - works perfectly !! http://www.lingualgamers.com/thesis/dvds.html
All is clearly explained.
I can't wait to try it out with the students.

This might be a silly question, but I really don't know to much about computers, and I don't own a dvdplayer to test:
I guess the only possibility of playing a movie in the class room will be through beamer connected to computer / laptop ?

[VLC_help]

I guess the only possibility of playing a movie in the class room will be through beamer connected to computer / laptop ?

This is usually the easiest option. If the class has multiple computers, you can also playback the same video on all computers.

[pieter53]

We would love to have two subtitles at the same time!
It would be realy nice if we could display each of these subtitles in a positon on the screen, we choose.

But thanks for your wonderfull program anyway!

Pieter & Thea, The Netherlands.

[stewacide]

I'd love to see this feature as well for language-learning purposes. I have a moderate knowledge to continental French (hence the need for English subs to fill in the gaps), but I need to learn to understand spoken Canadian French which is quite different (hence the need for French subs to make sure I'm hearing what I'm hearing).

Is there any other program out there that can do with, either with DVDs or separate sub' files?

[VLC_help]

With DirectShow players like MPC or MPC Home Cinema you can use dual subtitles if you have FFDshow/Vobsub installed. Set same name for first subtitle and video file, then open the second subtitle via MPC menu.

[pieter53]

Any news about using dual subtitles on DVD's?

[VLC_help]

AFAIK nothing is happening on this front.

[no_alone]

Just download KMP player....
VLC (Sadly) does not support this

[jamiro]

I really need this feature as well. What's the situation?

[eresus]

Apparently there is no progress. You can use up to three subtitle tracks simultaneously in The KMPlayer. http://www.kmplayer.com/
Sadly it is Windows-only.
I hope VLC developers will eventually implement this feature.

[TheFalcon]

Some DVD's have all subtitle tracks twice, one as primarily subtitle and the other as secondarily subtitle.
For example the movie Airplane! DVD. In VLC I didn't understand why every language were twice in the list of subtitles

But when I opened same DVD in PowerDVD, I had a choice between the primarily and the secondarily subtitle. One places under and the other on top.
So basically this is even a feature on some DVD's. But VLC can't use this functionality of some DVD's.

I would be nice if VLC would support this also,

[INSA]

You may be happy to know that I am establishing a solution to provide the multimedia player VLC the possibility to read and display simultaneously two subtitles tracks. In order to make the extension as accessible as possible, I would like to make a little survey which will enable me to know how much a subtitle format is used.
Simply indicate in the following form which formats you wish to know the extension compatible with.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewfor ... WUhPb0E6MQ

[Armando]

Nice to hear that you are working on this feature but I think the most common source for dual subtitles is DVD (or Blu-ray) although external files support is important too. PowerDVD is able to play two subtitle tracks together directly from DVD with no need for external files. Why should I search for files on the internet when I already own these on a disc? I suppose there is a technical reason because this is a not a common feature for a player but if PoweDVD can do it why should VLC cannot?

[INSA]

We are a group of four students and this extension is one of our engineering school projects. Due to the constraints we've got, the extension have to handle external subtitles files only. So, for now, I'm sorry to announce you that the extension won't handle internal subs.
But if some people are interested in this feature, we'll try to built it in later. Some documentation about this DVD issue would be helpful.

[VLC_help]

People are confusing two different things in here. First option (and most likely the best one) is to add dual subtitle support for VLC. Second is to create dual subtitle files using AS S/SSA specs.

First option requires somewhat major changes to VLC (assuming that you can use different kind of subtitles with each other) but it is quite doable.

Second option doesn't require any changes to current media players (well they have to support AS S/SSA subtitles, but most of them do via external filters at least). But A SS/SSA doesn't support image based subtitles, so you cannot join e.g. two DVD subtitles to same file (well you can machine read them to text subtitles and do the joining).

[TheFalcon]

I thought we were talking about these 2 options
- adding 2 srt to one video
- 2 subtitle tracks from 1 DVD (dual subtitle DVD) so without any external subtitle

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[eresus]

[quote="INSA"]

This is great news. I wonder why you're not listed here: http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/824 ?

I think it would be worthwhile to look how it's done in The Kmplayer, because there you can adjust the size/location/font/color/etc of subtitles any way you want.

Will your work be incorporated to the upstream VLC version or used as an extension?

Good luck!

[cyberbill]

With DirectShow players like MPC or MPC Home Cinema you can use dual subtitles if you have FFDshow/Vobsub installed. Set same name for first subtitle and video file, then open the second subtitle via MPC menu.

Hi,

Since VLC doesnot support dual subtitle display, does anyone know how to configure MPC-HC, FFDSHOW, DIRECTVOBSUB to come together and display dual subtitle (.srt or whatever)?

Been looking unsuccessfully for this solution. Some mentioned Dual Subtitle is possible through FFDSHOW and DIRECTVOBSUB installed, but no one specifically mentioned how to configure them to work together properly. and since it is possible.....I had all installed: MPC-HC, FFDSHOW and DIRECTVOBSUB, but when I load another subtitle, it will replace that existing one, not showing both.

Also someone had also mention MPC with Storm codec http://www.walkernews.net/2007/11/17/ho ... orm-codec/ but I am inclined to avoid installation of multiple codec sets, unless really necessary, and I would also prefer MPC-HC over MPC.

Would appreciate any help here if you can.--Thanks!!!

[VLC_help]

Turn on FFDshow subtitle autoloading.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/raiska/tutorials/ffdshow/02.png

then use MPC to load subtitles and adjust their position. (disable internal MPC decoders if FFDshow icon doesn't pop up when you start playback)

[rooley]

Now that we've rung in the new year I'm wondering if any developers have some updates or input on the matter. Many users would still really love this!

[totsubo]

Now that we've rung in the new year I'm wondering if any developers have some updates or input on the matter. Many users would still really love this!

I'm not a developer but this feature is in the issue/feature tracker here:

http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/824

The original request was raised more than 4 years ago and the priority is set to low. So I wouldn't hold my breath ...

[INSA]

I wonder why you're not listed here: http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/824 ?

Done.

Will your work be incorporated to the upstream VLC version or used as an extension?

It will be used as an extension first in order to allow every developer to modify it easily without being a "C-language master"
Our source control repository will be posted here as soon as possible. It's the possibility for you to post your comments or ideas.

[rooley]

Thank you INSA (and whomever else is responsible) for starting this!

[pedor]

It this feature implemented yet? when?