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Re: Remember position

Postby sach160 » 21 Jan 2011 13:26

+1

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Re: Remember position

Postby skinnerd » 24 Jan 2011 07:49

+1

i was looking through all the preferences, thinking this feature already exists...but not yet?? so i google searched, "vlc remember playback position" and this thread was the first hit. has any progress been made?

created: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:36 pm
man, this thread is older than the hills!! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Remember position

Postby docn » 28 Jan 2011 13:03

+1

i was looking through all the preferences, thinking this feature already exists...but not yet?? so i google searched, "vlc remember playback position" and this thread was the first hit. has any progress been made?

created: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:36 pm
man, this thread is older than the hills!! :lol: :lol:
Seems not - but Media Player Classic will, so I've switched to that. :wink:

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Re: Remember position

Postby lazfsh » 04 Feb 2011 20:16

I would also like to suggest that this feature work regardless of what was last playing. Resume last mp3 for example or resume last podcast or shoutcast stream. I hate having to chose recent media or playlist everytime vlc loads.

Also update your forums to something with OpenAuth/OpenID

You can't be all open source-ry and not use open standards like that.

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Re: Remember position

Postby wolfyk » 02 Mar 2011 15:46

+1

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Re: Remember position

Postby BrianAdamsID » 05 May 2011 16:37

Yes, please add this! I registered for this forum just to say that this feature is needed. I've been using Media Player Classic just because it has this feature, but MPC doesn't render video as well for me as VLC, and it can't play .ISOs easily like VLC, for me.

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Re: Remember position (for audiobook playlists)

Postby skay » 25 May 2011 11:08

For many years, I've been using VLC Player for Windows (Win32, XP-Pro) to play FLAC files, video files (like Forbrydelsen!), and audiobooks. There's lots I like about the VLC Player. Unlike the Windows Media Player, the VLC Player plays FLAC audio files flawlessly, supporting fast-forward & rewind without a hitch. And I can create a virtual library of playlists in the VLC Player, while keeping my media files in various locations on my drives, without having to copy all the media files to a central location on the C drive, as iTunes requires.

However, both the Windows Media Player and iTunes have settings that are terrific for audiobooks -- especially the setting to "remember position." The VLC Player offers nothing of the kind, forcing me to take "bookmark" notes in text files, where I specify the file number and exact time where I left off. And I must refer to such a text file every time I wish to resume listening to an audiobook in the VLC Player.

(Actually, the VLC Player could improve upon iTunes and Windows Media Player by permitting users to create different TYPES or CATEGORIES of playlists. In such a system, any 'audiobook' playlist would have the "remember position" setting enabled by default. Likewise, in such a system, any 'music' playlist would have the "remember position" setting disabled by default.)

Users of the VLC Player have been requesting a 'remember position' feature for years now. If I had the skills, knowledge, and time, I would add it myself, but I do not possess such resources. So I do hope somebody with such resources will add this feature. (I suspect it has not been added to VLC Player because it's not desirable as a global setting for all audio or all video files. But as I suggested above, there are other ways to implement it.)

Best regards,
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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 09 Aug 2011 08:10

Seeing that creating bookmarks via CTRL+B is already possible (worksforme), isn't all there would be left to do: saving these bookmarks (i.e. the content of the CTRL+B window) in a bookmarks.xml file upon exit and reading it upon VLC start?

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<bookmark> <file>D:\path\file1.ext</file> <pos>600</pos> </bookmark> <bookmark> <file>D:\path\file2.ext</file> <pos>1200</pos> </bookmark>
Or is it much more complicated than that?

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Re: Remember position

Postby VLC_help » 09 Aug 2011 17:34

Or is it much more complicated than that?
That wouldn't work with DVD movies, since they all have same X:\VIDEO_TS as item.

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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 10 Aug 2011 22:34

that's what you have the path for, no?

X:\someDVD\VIDEO_TS\
X:\someotherDVD\VIDEO_TS\

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Re: Remember position

Postby VLC_help » 11 Aug 2011 16:27

All DVD Video discs have the same structure, so when you insert DVD Video disc to DVD drive, the .vob files will always be in x:\VIDEO_TS

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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 14 Aug 2011 13:56

oh, I didn't know you were talking about external optical discs.

So you take an exceptional case (for which bookmarks are difficult to implement) as argument for not implementing them in general (where no showstoppers exist) ?

Sure there might be ways to distinguish one DVD from another (file sizes, timestamps, structure, etc.), but I doubt that's remotely worth the effort...
... just exclude DVD/Bluray drives from bookmarks. I don't know any player which would support this anyway. And what is the benefit of a bookmark, if you have to manually look for your DVD and insert it into the drive? Defeats the purpose I'd say.

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Re: Remember position

Postby VLC_help » 14 Aug 2011 16:17

So you take an exceptional case (for which bookmarks are difficult to implement) as argument for not implementing them in general (where no showstoppers exist) ?
What I mean is, that URL itself isn't unique enough to save current position in reliable way.

The issue also bothers memory card based stuff, USB drives (drive letter order can change based on attach order), network locations etc.
... just exclude DVD/Bluray drives from bookmarks. I don't know any player which would support this anyway.
PowerDVD supports that very well.

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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 14 Aug 2011 16:48

I would just store the path to a file and the timestamp (seconds as integer value) in an xml file as posted above. That's very easy and would certainly make thousands of VLC users happy. Is your argument that since non-local content can change, bookmarks will not be implemented alltogether?

It's like arguing that Internet Browsers cannot have bookmarks, because the webpage a bookmark-URL points to could be replaced by different content.

If a remote resource is offline, that's not VLC's fault.
If the user bookmarks a non-local resource and the URL's content changes, that's also not VLC's fault.

VLC is not and is not supposed to be a clairvoyant, right?

Now there are various ways to make VLC a little more clairvoyant - as already posted above - namely by storing additional data ("file sizes, timestamps, folder content, DVD structure, etc."), and I am 100% sure that it's nothing that will ever be on the VLC developper wish list, so why are we even discussing that point, when the point is a hypothetical?

I still see no showstopper and no difficulties for an easy implementation in the form of the above posted XML file.

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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 14 Aug 2011 16:56

Tell you what: It doesn't even matter if the bookmark URL points to a local drive or a non-local resource. That distinction is not pertinent as even local content can change! Unless you want to store filesize + last modified file date (for speed gain, to avoid hash comparison if time or size differs) and a 128+ bit hash value (must check if time+size matches), you will NEVER know if a bookmarked content has changed! period.

I personally think that's not VLC's responsibility to check if bookmarked content has changed. If you agree, then why are we discussing this point?

(I mean, I personally don't care that much. I have other players (e.g. MPC-HC) which support bookmarking. But I was just curious as to why VLC - which is capable of mind-bogglingly difficult things - cannot yet store a simple list of path+timestamp pairs in a text file.)

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Re: Remember position

Postby VLC_help » 15 Aug 2011 17:10

Bookmark/remember position failing is annoying to many people in same way as frame forward and loop a->b fails are. So bad implementation will just flood the forums with messages like this and this.
I personally think that's not VLC's responsibility to check if bookmarked content has changed.
It is just SUPER annoying to user, that when he/she enters new DVD Video discs to drive, VLC suggest returning to last position, even when user hasn't played that disc before.

Content change of the URL is only half of the problem, second part is the URL change of the content.

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Re: Remember position

Postby lovelove » 15 Aug 2011 20:17

bad implementation will just flood the forums with messages like this and this.
The links have nothing to do with bookmarking/remember position. The first link is about the well-known frame-by-frame bug and the second link is about an instance where VLC failed to display consistent/correct timecodes (possibly due to file which does not conform to specifications/standards).
Bookmark/remember position failing is annoying to many people
@bookmark: If user sets bookmark to location and afterwards removes the content from that location, it's user fault. And it's a pretty weird argument, it's almost like saying "VLC will stop supporting video playback, because users are annoyed that VLC does not play videos they have deleted from their HDD".
@remember position: it behaves just as advertised. If user doesn't like the feature, he should not enable it. Keep it disabled by default then.
It is just SUPER annoying to user, that when he/she enters new DVD Video discs to drive, VLC suggest returning to last position, even when user hasn't played that disc before.
there is an easy solution in the way MPC-HC has dealt with this issue:

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Content change of the URL is only half of the problem, second part is the URL change of the content.
Again, if you want to know whether the content has changed, you need to store data capable of identifying the content (file size, time stamps, hash, etc.), as mentioned repeatedly already.
Again, I am 100% sure that won't ever be on VLC's to-do-list.
Again, so why are we discussing content identification if content identification will NEVER be on your agenda??? If you seriously consider content identification, then so say so clearly and I will continue this part of the discussion which is otherwise pointless.

There are not 36000 possibilities:
If you don't identify the content, you can only store the URL.
That's what 100% of all Internet browsers do.
That's what 99% of bookmarking-capable media players do.
That's what VLC could also do.

This is how MPC-HC deals with bookmarks. I personally don't see any problem with that whatsoever:

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I am sure 100% of VLC users would be happy to have this rather than nothing as currently.
And 0% of VLC users would be annoyed, because if they don't actively bookmark something, nothing changes for them.

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Re: Remember position

Postby mrl1138 » 19 Sep 2011 09:07

What I found one can do is to set a bookmark at the specific position and then save playlist to file (CTRL+Y). After opening the playlist bookmark can be restored. I know it's probably still easier to create txt file, so still waiting for an easy "restore last position" option like most do. Peace.

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Re: Remember position

Postby Snurre86 » 20 Sep 2011 14:47

This is the feature I miss most in VLC media player, it is actually the main reason I avail myself of SMPlayer most. The first few times I used this feature, it was weird and confusing to start in the middle of a movie, but after about 50 times, it became a habit that I now can not be without. On longer informational, instructional videos and other videos you do not want to or can look at in one go, it is very useful as you can visualize.

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Re: Remember position

Postby mederi » 21 Sep 2011 13:45

As mrl1138 says, setting a bookmark and saving it with a playlist works. Semiautomatic at least 8)

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Re: Remember position

Postby mrl1138 » 06 Dec 2011 16:34

Another solution:

Open VLC,
Press CTRL+L to view the Playlist,
Choose Media Library in a left pane,
Right click on an empty space and add files or a folder with movies,
Add bookmark(s) in any movie at any time, that you want to start playing from next time you open VLC.

When you open VLC again, it gonna keep your Media Library list so you can easily get back to whatever movie you were watching and use bookmarks that you set, to play from the last time you stopped, no need to save anything like playlists etc.

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Re: Remember position

Postby fredphoesh » 13 Jan 2012 21:59

Wow, two and a half years later and this basic feature still has not made it to vlc... has it been forgotten?

I was just pouring through the incredible advanced options, amazingly powerful... but this is a must have feature and I am baffled why it has not been implemented, there are several threads about this subject, so obviously many, many people would want it...

Please guys, dont forget about it...

Thanks,
Mark.

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Re: Remember position

Postby VLC_help » 15 Jan 2012 17:13

Wow, two and a half years later and this basic feature still has not made it to vlc... has it been forgotten?
Nobody has implemented this. VLC is a volunteer project, nobody is forced to do anything.

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Re: Remember position

Postby Adrioid » 18 Jan 2012 13:18

Incorrect, MPlayerX for OSX did.

Quote from http://mplayerx.org: "Forget where you stopped playing last time? MPlayerX won't."

Please add this feature to get one more step closer to perfect!

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Re: Remember position

Postby Sébastien Escudier » 18 Jan 2012 13:33

No, he meant : Nobody has implemented this in VLC


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