VLC 1.1.0 don't unload when closed under XP

[secathom]

I just wanted to keep you guys on track:
j-b tested my VPC Image and is finally able to reproduce the bug. Although we still have no idea what does the bug occur on some xp machines and others not, he now will be able to track the bug down.

We all can sit and relax now and let the pros do the work.
There might be a fix for this annoying bug very soon.
Until then I suggest using the 1.0.6 nightly build announced by "itsnow".

@ reinhart, did u actually read this ???

regards,

secathom

[solazy]

Hi secathom,

As this topic was bumped, I would like to add some comments (nothing personal with you)
What makes me a bit sad is this :

Why can't XP users (like me and millions else) use the last "stable" VLC release, without that very annoying "X closing" bug, without any security issue, until a fix has been released (if it will ever be fixed one day) ?

The last stable VLC release for XP, without security issues, is NOT the nighly build 1.06 : why ?
1) because it's not the final 1.06 (even user "itsnow", who kindly showed us the link of this nighly build, wrote this : "now, however, I am having some problems with 1.0.6 (1.0.5 has always been good)"

2) More important, because the major security problem affecting all VLC releases from 1.0.5 and under has been fixed in 1.0.6 on 21 April 2010, as clearly written at the end of the following link :
http://www.videolan.org/security/sa1003.html

3) And the nighly build 1.0.6 (exe) was released...3 weeks BEFORE (29 March 2010) the security issue was found, which means the nightly build 1.0.6 has real security issues :
http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win ... 0329-0202/

4) Now let's go to the FINAL VLC 1.0.6 release found here :
ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/pub/vlc/1.0.6/
As you can see, the source date is correct : 21 April 2010, which means the major security issues found in 1.0.5 has been fixed in 1.0.6

So the ONLY remaining question is : Why didn't VLC staff compile this 1.0.6 version on 21 April 2010 ?

It's exactly 6 months now we're having problems (21 April => 21 October) when it would have taken them a few MINUTES to compile it and write anywhere : "XP users, until we find a fix for this very annoying "X closing" issue, here is the last stable release 1.0.6 you should use if you want to get rid of this "X closing" issue AND if you want to get rid of the major security issues found in 1.0.5, they have been fixed in FINAL 1.0.6 on 21 April 2010"

If they had done it that way, a lot of us won't be complaining now, using a ridiculous 1.0.5 when we KNOW it's full of security problems.

Honestly guys, I can't understand the purpose of showing us the 1.0.6 source (for 6 months now) when there isn't the corresponding exe ! Just delete the 1.0.6 source page, or compile it quickly, but don't let it show to everybody and tell them : "compile it yourself !"

We don't know how to compile it, and we understand you had a lot of work with 1.1.0+ at the time.
But why didn't it you end the 1.0.6 release completely, by compiling it on 21 April 2010 ?
How much time does it take to compile a release : minutes? hours? days?

That's a question that really makes me wonder : is it too late for you now to compile it ?

I apologize if I was a bit rude with my post, but I loved VLC so much, and because of this stupid bug and the fact I'm forced to use a 1.0.5 release (though I know it has major security issues) when there is a pending final 1.0.6 ... uncompiled, I just can't understand why VLC staff never wanted to compile the final 1.0.6 release

[ltsnow]

Solazy, very good post. I am now also wondering the same thing. BTW, give 1.1.4 a try. As I noted all you have to do is get in the habit of using "exit" from the "media" menu. So far it works fine on every media file I have played.

[secathom]

Hi,


i did not want to offent somebody. I actually didnt like this rude behaviour against the developers, who do their best at this topic.
I am running into the same problem, so I can understand ur mentioning.
at least I think we have to wait until the next release is getting out

[vlcclv]

Greetings. I am a brand new VLC user - got the archive straight from www.videolan.org and verified the md5 signature. The program looks absolutely incredible, but I have had so many issues, that I have already removed it. Unlike typical users who find a problem and probably just remove the software and never make a post on the community forums, I am so impressed with the potential of this software that I thought I would take the time to make a considerate post here to hopefully help the developers and community address some of the issues.

All experimentation I performed was with XP Pro SP3 with all current patches. Several of the issues are covered in this thread: When exiting using the close 'x' icon in the upper right corner, the application never exits properly. Using Ctrl+Q is a workaround, but I rarely use the keyboard when viewing videos, so I tend to keep on hitting the 'x', resulting in VLC not closing properly.

I read that turning on the skinnable mode could fix this problem, so I did that. But when skinnable mode is turned on, pressing Ctrl+P no longer brings up the preferences dialog box. Manually opening the Preferences dialog box, then closing it, and then trying to exit VLC causes VLC to not close at all, requiring Task Manager to close it. So, basically, in skinnable mode, the user cannot access the Preferences dialog box without causing VLC to not be able to close. So skinnable mode is not an option.

I also noticed that when experimenting with VLC, the right-click context menu would not appear at all in some cases (especially when trying out the skinnable mode).

When attempting to open all files in a large directory with many subdirectories ("open folder option"), VLC would crash every time.

When trying to use the Goom visualization option, VLC would crash every time (in both skinnable and native modes).

When in skinnable mode, right clicking (get context menu) -> Interface -> Effects and Filters, and then selecting the Spatialization tab and then the Equalizer tab and then clicking the little red 'x' in the upper right corner to close the Effects and Filters dialog box would cause right clicking anywhere in VLC to stop working; also exiting VLC would stop working after doing this procedure. A workaround I found was to minimize and then restore the VLC window.

After spending a few hours experimenting with VLC, I was amazed by its potential. I looks absolutely incredible. But it crashed so many times, could not close probably, lost its own context menu, and had so many problems that I chose to remove it.

Hopefully this post can help the developers and community improve VLC. I would love to try it again sometime.

[vlcclv]

I was thinking about why would so many users of such a popular program have so many identical reproduceable problems (which I gather by this thread having relatively a huge number of hits and posts, combined with plenty of similar posts in the forums), but others would have no problem. Then it dawned on me: perhaps we are not all running the same program. So I downloaded the installer version, the zip version, and the 7-zip version for Windows. I would expect the zip version and 7-zip archives to be identical (just with different compression), but I was surprised to see that they are not. The 7-zip version has .nsi and .nsh files as well as uac.dll, where the zip archive does not. The installer version has files related to the installer (which is to be expected) as well as iospecial.ini, which just guessing, is not related to the installer (but that is just a guess).

As far as the compressed files that are duplicated amongst the different downloads, I could find no binary differences between them, which is a good thing!

Bottom line is that the contents (which files are included) of the zip and 7-zip archives are not the same (but files in common are the same), and there MAY be some differences in what files are included between them and the installer version which goes beyond what is required for the installer (meaning, something to look into, but I do not have the experience with vlc to know which files are required by its installer).

Since files in common amongst the archives and installer version are all identical (assuming I did not make an error!), I think my hypothesis that this could be a reason why some people experience problems and others do not is probably false. However, given that there are some differences of WHICH files are in the different compressed archives and installer, someone with more experience with vlc may want to look into it.

[achim]

IMPORTANT:
http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win ... 1112-0203/
the latest nightly build of 1.1.5 fixes the X-Closing-Bug for me!!!
Finally no security issues and no bug! I'm glad

(1.2.0 nightly (trunk-20101112-0003) seems still broken...)

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

IMPORTANT:
http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win ... 1112-0203/
the latest nightly build of 1.1.5 fixes the X-Closing-Bug for me!!!
Finally no security issues and no bug! I'm glad

(1.2.0 nightly (trunk-20101112-0003) seems still broken...)

Confirmed. I fixed the bug... But so far, fixing it provoke another issue... I've spent my last 2 days on it... This is insane.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

1.1.5 should fix the bug. Thanks to achim, who instead of complaining and insulting the team has provided a VM to reproduce the issue.

[solazy]

Oh yessssssss "X" closes fine in 1.1.5 release
Thanks Achim and JB

[ltsnow]

Thank you so much for fixing this in 1.1.5. Everything is perfect now.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Oh yessssssss "X" closes fine in 1.1.5 release
Thanks Achim and JB

You are welcome.

You might see that VLC closes a bit less fast when using Ctrl+Q (like 2sec instead of 1) but X should close exactly in the same way and not hang.

[ltsnow]

Oh yessssssss "X" closes fine in 1.1.5 release
Thanks Achim and JB

You are welcome.

You might see that VLC closes a bit less fast when using Ctrl+Q (like 2sec instead of 1) but X should close exactly in the same way and not hang.

It seems to close ever so slightly slower with the X than it used to, but no big shakes.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Oh yessssssss "X" closes fine in 1.1.5 release
Thanks Achim and JB

You are welcome.

You might see that VLC closes a bit less fast when using Ctrl+Q (like 2sec instead of 1) but X should close exactly in the same way and not hang.

It seems to close ever so slightly slower with the X than it used to, but no big shakes.

Cool. If it takes more than 2sec on a normal powerful computer, then we have an issue.

[solazy]

Lucky here, both (ctrl-q and x) close same and very quickly on my old PC
Maybe JB will tell us one day how this nasty bug was solved, if it's not too complicated for us to understand ?
Sometimes bugs just drive you nuts and when you find the solution, you think "how is it I didn't think about that #@"¤* solution earlier ?" . Or was it a hidden vicious bug ? Just curious

[harry_tuttle]

Yeah! Thank you very much j-b and everyone else who has helped solving that issue!

VLC now exits completely on X-ing it and and I can't see any noticeable delay when using CTRL+Q. On my Athlon X2 4400+, 1.1.5 exits instantly just like prior versions.

Hats off to you all!

[VLC_help]

Maybe JB will tell us one day how this nasty bug was solved, if it's not too complicated for us to understand ?

ATM it is an ugly QT4 related hack
http://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/v ... 04348.html

[solazy]

Thx VLC_help

[rogerdpack]

ATM it is an ugly QT4 related hack
http://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/v ... 04348.html

Maybe it should be reported upstream?
Anyway thanks for the release and for posting the VM with the problem so jb could fix it. Seems to be working well for me on XP and windows 7 (oh wait, I never had any problems in the first place...)

-r

[Reinhart]

VLC 1.1.5 now works fine on my Windows XP (SP3) boxes.
You hardly see a delay when clicking the "x" icon so this should not be an issue (here).

Thanks to the VLC team for finally fixing the big WinXP bug in VLC 1.1.5 .
This now means that the many XP users out there can download the current version and use it.
Good for them, good for VLC...! :-)

[LordOslek]

I am still having a problem with VLC crashing at the end of a video. Have to force close it every time. This is using 1.1.0 as well as 1.1.5.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

I am still having a problem with VLC crashing at the end of a video. Have to force close it every time. This is using 1.1.0 as well as 1.1.5.

THis is another issue. Please delete %appdata%/vlc folder

[LordOslek]

Thank you for your reply j-b.

I have tried this. Still doesn't work.

I play a video. It crashes at the end. I force-close VLC. I delete the %appdata%/vlc folder. Play a new video (it makes no difference if its an .avi, .mpg or .mkv) and the folder reappears and VLC crashes the same at the end of the video.

I have noticed that it only does this on my 2nd screen (computer is connected to a TV for videos) either in windowed or fullscreen mode. On my main monitor I have no such issues.

The issue didn't happen on the previous version (I am assuming it is pre 1.0.0 due to it having the old style layout as opposed to the one currently used) but I upgraded due to .mkv files only showing as a grey screen (though the audio still played perfectly fine).

[VLC_help]

You know how to use GDB debugger?

[LordOslek]

I do not though if you could point me in the direction of some instructions - I am willing to give it a try.